byroz Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 What a bummer Charles is awesome to watch play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Feel bad for his owners - drafted him in 2011 and got burned, and I figured he was one of the few fragile guys I would never want again. I never thought he would be as durable as he proved to be after that first injury, but this doesn't shock me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wpob Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Well, this is going to test my coaching and GM ability. I have Stafford, Charles, Lynch, Cooks, Calvin and Graham (dynasty league). I figured I had a "set it and forget it" lineup. Â Best laid plans. Â Will drop to 3-2 this week. Will pick up West (have #1 waiver priority). As bummed out as I am, I am looking forward to seeing if I can finagle decent line ups from waivers and hunches and make a run for the playoffs. Â But it would really help me out if Graham and Calvin started to play better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphin_Akie Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Never like to see the best players in the league get injured and missed time. Â The elite RBs at the top of re-drafts aren't going great really with Lacy and Lynch missing time and struggling, now this for Charles owners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 So is it official that JC has the ACL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the outlaw Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 So is it official that JC has the ACL? Â my understanding is it has not been confirmed, yet, until an MRI, but highly probable (experienced trainers and doctors generally have a pretty good idea of what these injuries look/feel like from their initial examinations)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 What sucks even worse is drafting knile and thinking you are ok after seeing Charles go down only to find out that he doesnt look like the go to guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Â my understanding is it has not been confirmed, yet, until an MRI, but highly probable (experienced trainers and doctors generally have a pretty good idea of what these injuries look/feel like from their initial examinations)... Â Yep, that makes sense. I'll be shocked if it's not an ACL, but I am not cutting him loose until confirmation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 So is it official that JC has the ACL? Â Â Reid has confirmed that Charles has a torn ACL. Â I guess we'll find out if West can carry the load and be our RB of the future. yes confirmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Â Â yes confirmed. Â ESPN's Adam Teicher relays that coach Andy Reid confirmed after Sunday's loss to the Bears that the preliminary report he received indicates that Charles suffered a torn ACL in the contest. Â Not actually "confirmed" yet. I am quite sure the ACL is the injury, but these are preliminary reports. Until the MRI I am not cutting him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 This sucks. And what sucks even more are leagues that allow in-game pickups...missed out on West Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the outlaw Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 And what sucks even more are leagues that allow in-game pickups...missed out on West  I guess that ^ all depends upon your perspective...I only own Charles in one league (my primary, local keeper league), but was able to grab West in 4 of my 6 leagues, yesterday, upon hearing the unfortunate JC news...I missed out on West in another, and will likely not get him in the 6th as the claim period opens on Tuesday, and waiver priority is reversed based upon standings (and fortunately, or unfortunately in this case, after this week I'll be in either 1st or 2nd place, so will most likely miss the lotto in that league)...however, I now need to decide whether to cut Charles loose in my keeper league for 2016, or have him sit idle for the next 11 weeks, taking up a valuable roster space... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 not perspective, but league rules....lol. In this day and age of mobility, I should've been more proactive but was at a beer bottle share and the only game on was the Browns game. We didn't hear about the injury until 45 minutes and several high-powered beers later. West was already scooped up by the time I one-eyed my league on my phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the outlaw Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) west may not even turn out to be the right pick-up, who knows? it could turn into a mess (RBBC), too...I had Charles handcuffed w/Davis since my draft, but dropped Davis for West, yesterday, based upon the current depth chart and speculation that West had overtaken Davis as the RB2...now, I'm reading they're both going to get a shot...that could just be "coach-speak" though...we'll see... Edited October 12, 2015 by the outlaw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) west may not even turn out to be the right pick-up, who knows? it could turn into a mess (RBBC), too...I had Charles handcuffed w/Davis since my draft, but dropped Davis for West, yesterday, based upon the current depth chart and speculation that West had overtaken Davis as the RB2...now, I'm reading they're both going to get a shot...that could just be "coach-speak" though...we'll see... Â Â Â Reid said both will play, Â The thing about Andy Reid's system is there are no "first down" situations. He sets up the run with the pass so his system is really effective only when the running back is a legit threat out of the backfield. Unless Davis' pass catching ability is on par with West, then West will get most of the work. I think the best youre going to get from Davis is 5-10 carries a game and some redzone work. Â Considering Charles himself RARELY topped 20 carries, there just are not enough "traditional" carries in this offense for a split backfield. Edited October 12, 2015 by kwolf68 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 I'm definitely not an expert on their backfield but watching the game after Charles went down West has more burst than Davis. Davis didn't run with any real authority that I could see. West had a little shake and bake. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the outlaw Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) looks like this may boil down to who has the final say, the coaching staff or front office...and, believe me I've seen this soap opera play out entirely too long w/RG3, although at least it appears to have finally run it's painful course here in DC... Â KC (and fantasy owners) could be in for a mess, at least initially... Â from Rotoworld, Oct 12 - 12:25 PM - http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/10006/charcandrick-west Edited October 12, 2015 by the outlaw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 rappaport lol. No taco, I could tell you he could have. Let's wait for the MRI... You could have but he has more twitter followers, so his word counts more yes I was being sarcastic   What sucks even worse is drafting knile and thinking you are ok after seeing Charles go down only to find out that he doesnt look like the go to guy Davis owner in our league apparently didn't notice he wasn't involved since week 2 either. 0 carriers and 0 receptions weeks 3 & 4. I was just reading a bit on Davis and see he didn't even see the field on offense in week 4, that doesn't sound like the backup RB. Not owning either guy I hadn't noticed this either. Wet is a FA so he'll get some consideration for my waiver move this week.   This sucks. And what sucks even more are leagues that allow in-game pickups...missed out on West How does that work, are they allowed to cut a player on their roster who didn't play yet? Or did they have an empty roster slot to fill?  Agree in game pickups suck.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 I have a feeling this will be a backfield of fantasy hell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 I have a feeling this will be a backfield of fantasy hell   If West can do the job Reid will stick with him as he is conducive to Reid's system. However, Davis is a capable RB and when given the chance to play has done quite well. Nothing is more frustrating than the BS going on in Denver or Washington right now and I'd hate to see this situation become like those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorttynaz Posted October 12, 2015 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015 I have a feeling this will be a backfield of fantasy hellAdd Ben Tate to the mix. He's working out for them today, not yet signed - but I heard on the radio this morning that they're expected to sign him.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the outlaw Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Add Ben Tate to the mix. He's working out for them today, not yet signed - but I heard on the radio this morning that they're expected to sign him.. Â yeah, because he's been stellar everywhere else he's played... Â it's almost like these teams have a box of extra jerseys numbered 20 - 40 laying around, so they'll bring anyone in to fill 'em... LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) Add Ben Tate to the mix. He's working out for them today, not yet signed - but I heard on the radio this morning that they're expected to sign him.. Â LOL. Tate will be a total non-factor unless both West and Davis go down. Those are two pretty good RBs...Tate didn't even have a job. He's bench fodder, nothing more or less. Edited October 12, 2015 by kwolf68 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 You could have but he has more twitter followers, so his word counts more yes I was being sarcastic   Davis owner in our league apparently didn't notice he wasn't involved since week 2 either. 0 carriers and 0 receptions weeks 3 & 4. I was just reading a bit on Davis and see he didn't even see the field on offense in week 4, that doesn't sound like the backup RB. Not owning either guy I hadn't noticed this either. Wet is a FA so he'll get some consideration for my waiver move this week.   How does that work, are they allowed to cut a player on their roster who didn't play yet? Or did they have an empty roster slot to fill?  Agree in game pickups suck.  in my work league, dude dropped a player that wasn't in his starting lineup In 32 Homers, the Jets were on bye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud29 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Add Ben Tate to the mix. He's working out for them today, not yet signed - but I heard on the radio this morning that they're expected to sign him.. Nothing more than a depth move, they don't have a 3rd string RB right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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