Randall Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 Pick your top pick for next season and please list your top 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zooty Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 Not in order 1-LJ 2-LT 3-SA 4-Edge 5- I hope I don't draft 5th! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 You forgot Rudi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 Alexander is #1 if he stays with Seattle and the Seahawks get Hutchinson re-signed. Larry Johnson is #2 if the KC can retain most of it's guys. LT slips to #3 for me. A bad o-line is starting to wear him down late in the season. It's happened two years in a row now. Edge is #4 if he stays with the Colts. Tiki Barber is #5. Rudi Johnson is #6. Portis is #7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westvirginia Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 Alexander is #1 if he stays with Seattle and the Seahawks get Hutchinson re-signed. Larry Johnson is #2 if the KC can retain most of it's guys. LT slips to #3 for me. A bad o-line is starting to wear him down late in the season. It's happened two years in a row now. Edge is #4 if he stays with the Colts. Tiki Barber is #5. Rudi Johnson is #6. Portis is #7. 1238636[/snapback] I agree with the good Captain here, 'cept I would put LJ over SA (though I think the difference is probably a coin flip or so). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsonk2 Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 Alexander is #1 if he stays with Seattle and the Seahawks get Hutchinson re-signed. Larry Johnson is #2 if the KC can retain most of it's guys. LT slips to #3 for me. A bad o-line is starting to wear him down late in the season. It's happened two years in a row now. Edge is #4 if he stays with the Colts. Tiki Barber is #5. Rudi Johnson is #6. Portis is #7. 1238636[/snapback] A lot of "ifs"...but what Hook said! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
major-tom Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 Alexander LT Johnson - many questions in KC Barber Edge *If everything stays basically the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 Alexander is #1 if he stays with Seattle and the Seahawks get Hutchinson re-signed. Larry Johnson is #2 if the KC can retain most of it's guys. LT slips to #3 for me. A bad o-line is starting to wear him down late in the season. It's happened two years in a row now. Edge is #4 if he stays with the Colts. Tiki Barber is #5. Rudi Johnson is #6. Portis is #7. 1238636[/snapback] Agree with this completely as far as #6. Beyond that I haven't a clue - Dom Davis, perhaps? BTW, no Reggie Bush? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Holliday Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 (edited) 1.L.T 2. Alexander 3. L.Johnson 4. James 5. Barber Edited December 27, 2005 by Doc Holliday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubfoothead Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 Alexander Tomlinson James L. Johnson R. Johnson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 LT SA LJ EJ umm...hmm...not tiki, i couldnt take him here.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted December 27, 2005 Author Share Posted December 27, 2005 You forgot Rudi 1238628[/snapback] Yeah, sorry about that. I thought I had everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 I agree with the good Captain here, 'cept I would put LJ over SA (though I think the difference is probably a coin flip or so). 1238648[/snapback] If you are using past performance and chance for future success as a guide, it's not really that close of a choice. Alexander PPG 2004: 18.93 2005: 23.37 average together: 21.15 Larry Johnson PPG Started 2004(5 games): 26.62 2005(8 games so far): 27.94 Average per game: 27.4 That puts LJ at 6 PPG higher. Granted his sample size is smaller, but this is 2 different seasons of performing like this and a total of 13 games. The only question about LJ in my mind right now is if he can handle it for 16 games. He has been durable in his career both in the pros and in college, so it's only a small question. And for those that talk about LJ as a product of the KC line, you only have as much of a point as you have saying the same thing about Alexander running behind the left side of his line. They both run behind the 2 of the top 3 or 4 lines in the league, so IMHO you have to credit the backs and lines equally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 If you are using past performance and chance for future success as a guide, it's not really that close of a choice. Alexander PPG 2004: 18.93 2005: 23.37 average together: 21.15 Larry Johnson PPG Started 2004(5 games): 26.62 2005(8 games so far): 27.94 Average per game: 27.4 That puts LJ at 6 PPG higher. Granted his sample size is smaller, but this is 2 different seasons of performing like this and a total of 13 games. The only question about LJ in my mind right now is if he can handle it for 16 games. He has been durable in his career both in the pros and in college, so it's only a small question. And for those that talk about LJ as a product of the KC line, you only have as much of a point as you have saying the same thing about Alexander running behind the left side of his line. They both run behind the 2 of the top 3 or 4 lines in the league, so IMHO you have to credit the backs and lines equally. 1238682[/snapback] Yeah, I don't buy much into the "product of the line" thinking. BUT, if KC loses Roaf and Shields, both of whom would be in their fourteenth NFL seasons next year, I'm definitely going with SA. If KC can bring both those guys back, AND the Seahawks can't get Hutchinson done, I might go with LJ first. There is a lot still up in the air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haywood Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 Is this leading rushers or top fantasy backs? I'm gonna assume top fantasy backs. 1. L. Johnson 2. L. Tomlinson 3. S. Alexander 4. R. Williams - Assuming he's the feature back somewhere and doesn't have a nervous breakdown. 5. E. James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat Face Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 no order: LJ, TL, SA, Edge, (Jordan, TB, or Rudi??) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 Alexander Tomlinson L. Johnson Edge Onterrio Smith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubfoothead Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 And for those that talk about LJ as a product of the KC line, you only have as much of a point as you have saying the same thing about Alexander running behind the left side of his line. They both run behind the 2 of the top 3 or 4 lines in the league, so IMHO you have to credit the backs and lines equally. 1238682[/snapback] Being concerned about the future of Johnson's line and saying he's a product of it are two different things. I'm not saying he'a a product of that line, but having that line sure as hell can't hurt. Besides, Walter Jones is staying put. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haywood Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 1. Reggie Bush 2. Kevin Jones 3. Cedric Benson 4. Samkon Gado 5. Lee Suggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 Being concerned about the future of Johnson's line and saying he's a product of it are two different things. I'm not saying he'a a product of that line, but having that line sure as hell can't hurt. Besides, Walter Jones is staying put. 1238719[/snapback] I wasn't trying to argue that point at all. More to the point there have been several people on this site that have somewhat downplayed what LJ has accomplished because of Roaf and Shields. Those same people forget that Alexander has Jones and Hutchinson, and they are roughly as good as Roaf and Shields. There have been several games in Alexander's career when Jones didn;t play. Alexander's numbers suffered greatly. The same will probably be true for LJ, but we have yet to see that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 There have been several games in Alexander's career when Jones didn;t play. Alexander's numbers suffered greatly. The same will probably be true for LJ, but we have yet to see that. 1238740[/snapback] We have seen that. Roaf missed several games this year with his hammy problem. It was right about the time LJ took over full time. He still had over a 100 and TD's. I would just worry about LJ if they have to do a complete overhaul on that line. Otherwise, he'll be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 We have seen that. Roaf missed several games this year with his hammy problem. It was right about the time LJ took over full time. He still had over a 100 and TD's. I would just worry about LJ if they have to do a complete overhaul on that line. Otherwise, he'll be fine. 1238744[/snapback] I thought Roaf had made it back by the time LJ took over full time. Anyways....major changes on any offensive line will because to review any RB's potential. For now, I take LJ with the top pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 Roaf Inactive 11/6 vs Oak: 22 carries 107 yards 2 TD's 3 catches 48 yards 11/13 at Buf: 27 carries 132 yards 0 TD 5 catches 46 yards 11/20 at Hou: 36 carries 211 yards 2 TD's 1 catch 6 yards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubfoothead Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 I thought Roaf had made it back by the time LJ took over full time. Anyways....major changes on any offensive line will because to review any RB's potential. For now, I take LJ with the top pick. 1238747[/snapback] The other Johnson, the one not Rudy, is probably the real deal but #1 overall I don't want any worries. I had Alexander and Chad Johnson on the same team this year and it was so nice. But that's just a matter of personal preference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grosse Pointe Gridder Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 1. Shaun Alexander 2. Larry Johnson 3. Ladanian Tomlinson 4. Edgerrin James 5. Ricky Williams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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