PaulOttCarruth Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 I was considering the last several RBs who won the rushing title. Take a look at their production in the year following the season they won the crown: 2004 Champion -- Curtis Martin 2004 -- 1,697 yds. and 12 TDs 2005 -- 735 yds. and 5 TDs 2003 Champion -- Jamal Lewis 2003 -- 2066 yds. and 14 TDs 2004 -- 1006 yds. and 7 TDs 2002 Champion -- Ricky Williams 2002 -- 1853 yds. and 16 TDs 2003 -- 1372 yds. and 9 TDs All of them dropped a minimum of 500 yards rushing and scored six fewer TDs. The Madden thing is overplayed. You can't argue with the stats though. Has Alexander peaked like the last three rushing champs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 (edited) Also keep in mind that C-Mart beat Alexander by ONE yard in '04 and Alexander roared back with 1880 yds the following season. It's possible that his knees give out, though, as he'll be 29 at the end of the month and has over 1,700 carries. Losing Hutchinson won't help, either. Edited August 10, 2006 by Bill Swerski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down Goes Frazia Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 martin got old lewis spent time in prison ricky got busted too. tough for anyone to repeat such performances.... and no way shaun scores 28 TD's this year, but i still think he has a great year. He's on too good of team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Cid Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 Alexander got paid on top of everything else. He is very rapidly falling out of my tier 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Holliday Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 It's possible that his knees give out, though, as he'll be 29 at the end of the month and has over 1,700 carries. Losing Hutchinson won't help, either. Losing Hutch will be major. That being said, as long as Walter Jones is there they will have running success whether it be by Alexander or someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Holliday Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 Alexander got paid on top of everything else. He is very rapidly falling out of my tier 1 His schedule makes it impossible you take him out of tier 1. as a matter of fact, his schedule guarentees success. only injury can stop Alexander this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Trick Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 Very nice, but for some reason I think he is the exception to all this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulOttCarruth Posted August 10, 2006 Author Share Posted August 10, 2006 Fuel to the fire: 2000 Champion -- Edgerrin James 2000 - 1709 yds and 13 TDs 2001 - 662 yds and 3 TDs That's 4 of the last 5 rushing champions to suffer a big collapse in the year following their title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote Quimby2 Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 Alexander got paid on top of everything else. He is very rapidly falling out of my tier 1 Didn't LT get paid a couple years ago. It didn't seem to effect his play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Cid Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 Didn't LT get paid a couple years ago. It didn't seem to effect his play. I'm just saying I don't think he's the lock that every one else does. I have him as interchangeable with Tiki and Portis. Not a bad back to have but I wouldn't touch him in the 1 or 2 spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Holliday Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 I'm just saying I don't think he's the lock that every one else does. I have him as interchangeable with Tiki and Portis. Not a bad back to have but I wouldn't touch him in the 1 or 2 spot. Larry Johnson is the 1 of the big 3 I worry about. he lost his bread and butter in Roaf and he has a new coach who is gonna have a much more predictable offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Trick Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 Larry Johnson is the 1 of the big 3 I worry about. he lost his bread and butter in Roaf and he has a new coach who is gonna have a much more predictable offense. Nope.........Roaf will be back...........Roaf will be back. I just know it, he'll be back, and everyone who dropped LJ from there rankings cause of it are going to be I will sit back and just Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTen Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 Nope.........Roaf will be back...........Roaf will be back. I just know it, he'll be back, and everyone who dropped LJ from there rankings cause of it are going to be I will sit back and just Just keep clicking those red shoes together and it might just happen! There is no place like Arrowhead, there is no place like Arrowhead... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 (edited) Alexander got paid on top of everything else. He is very rapidly falling out of my tier 1 Someone hurry help Kid Cid, he's lost it. Taking SA out of the Top Tier is lunacy! He'll be a monster again. His schedule is ridiculous. In my upcoming draft the guy who has the #1 pick said he's taking LT. I was overjoyed as that guarantees me LJ or SA at the #3 both I'd take over LT. His schedule makes it impossible you take him out of tier 1. as a matter of fact, his schedule guarentees success. only injury can stop Alexander this year. Exactly!! Larry Johnson is the 1 of the big 3 I worry about. he lost his bread and butter in Roaf and he has a new coach who is gonna have a much more predictable offense. Roaf retired to avoid training camp but will suddenly have a change of heart right before the regular season starts and training camp ends. Maybe he'll be in time for a little last preseason game warm up. Edited August 10, 2006 by irish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Holliday Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 Nope.........Roaf will be back...........Roaf will be back. I just know it, he'll be back, and everyone who dropped LJ from there rankings cause of it are going to be I will sit back and just Has there been talk of Roaf being back by the start of the season Hat ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 (edited) Fuel to the fire: 2000 Champion -- Edgerrin James 2000 - 1709 yds and 13 TDs 2001 - 662 yds and 3 TDs That's 4 of the last 5 rushing champions to suffer a big collapse in the year following their title. Add to this the fact that there has not been a RB on a losing superbowl team who rushed for more than 1,000 yds the year after the superbowl in the last 5 years....and only 2 superbowl losing RBs breaking 1,000 yds rushing in the last 10 years the year after the superbowl. Edited August 10, 2006 by Pancake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Trick Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 (edited) Just keep clicking those red shoes together and it might just happen! There is no place like Arrowhead, there is no place like Arrowhead... See Irish's post. That is exactly what's going on. Clearly you missed the Carl Peterson interview where he stated that he was giving Willie a free pass at camp, he is welcome back at anytime. Well over half the team has called him and he hasn't called ANYONE back, yet Peterson and Edwards both stated they knew where he was, what he was doing and they were respecting his decisions. Willie ONLY fake retired to avoid traning camp(where he got hurt last year BTW), the fines and to spend more time with his family. Willie PROMISED Shields and the organization that he would be back, WILL and Wille had a mutual agreement, they would only come back if the other would. Have you seen Will change his mind since Willie has? Nope, that's cause deep down everyone in this org knows he's coming back Rip me all you want for it, if it doesn't happen then I'll be the first to admit that I'm wrong. Oh and BTW he hasn't filed for retirement with the National Football League, he merely wrote a letter to the org stating as such. And we don't even really know that's what the letter said, it might have said, I don't want to be in camp, I want to do such and such during that time, listed his reasons for it and they all spoke and gave him a pass. There is a mutal repect there from Roaf and the Chiefs. You may think I'm full of it, but I still think he's coming back Edited August 10, 2006 by Hat Trick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 Add to this the fact that there has not been a RB on a losing superbowl team who rushed for more than 1,000 yds the year after the superbowl....and only 2 superbowl losing RBs breaking 1,000 yds rushing in the last 10 years the year after the superbowl. first and second statements contrict each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyalboyd Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 Good info here. I wouldnt pay it much attention, but with that MADDEN jinx. You can take it how u want. But if you on the Madden cover you'll never be drafted by me. Until its broke. Im not going to get caught winning up until midseason and have my hopes of a championship broken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 Didn't LT get paid a couple years ago. It didn't seem to effect his play. he was a rookie in 2001 and is only 26 I think......he still has one more payday coming up... Alexander is 29 and as a RB, his career is winding down... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 first and second statements contrict each other. FIXED...meant none in 5 years and only 2 in 10 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyalboyd Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 he was a rookie in 2001 and is only 26 I think......he still has one more payday coming up... Alexander is 29 and as a RB, his career is winding down... True but also. I think those carries are starting to catch up with LT as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Holliday Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 he was a rookie in 2001 and is only 26 I think......he still has one more payday coming up... Alexander is 29 and as a RB, his career is winding down... That is why anyone who takes him better get Morris too. but that goes for all of the big 3 I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blips Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 Nope.........Roaf will be back...........Roaf will be back. I just know it, he'll be back, and everyone who dropped LJ from there rankings cause of it are going to be I will sit back and just But Richardson will not be back. That is what makes me go..hmmmm. Even if Roaf is back how many games will he play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blips Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 That is why anyone who takes him better get Morris too. but that goes for all of the big 3 I guess. I thought that in 2002, 2003 & 2004 when I picked Morris. That didn't pan out for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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