Savage Beatings Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Can't start players that have already played. Good point... fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Pat!!! Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 As a commish, I would never allow a conditional starting line-up. In our leagues infancy, I allowed an owner to enter an if/then line-up based on injuries. (This was 15 years ago, much before the up to the minute updates available today). He wanted to play one guy, unless he did not play, then he wanted to substitute. Well, I watched the game and clearly remember seeing the player in question on the filed, albeit briefly. Needless to say, player X does not score any points, so the owner wanted to change come Monday morning. Because he didn't score any points, it wasn't anywhere in the paper (that'll tell you how long ago it was) stating whether he played or not. Big arguement ensued, because naturally the replacement player went off for 120+ and 2 tds or something like that. Where am I going with this? Allowing an if/then line-up is a bad idea. It's a player wanting to find a loophole, and as a commish, it's your job to close all loopholes. If he wants a 0, he needs to replace SJax with another player likely to not score. Wow. Sorry for the long post, but guys trying to beat the system tick me off!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 I'm beginning to wonder if Penguinsfan is actually the guy in question here, and he's just posed one of those "I have this friend..." scenarios in order to shield himself from the criticism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 As a commish, I would never allow a conditional starting line-up. In our leagues infancy, I allowed an owner to enter an if/then line-up based on injuries. (This was 15 years ago, much before the up to the minute updates available today). He wanted to play one guy, unless he did not play, then he wanted to substitute. well, i think you can allow something like that if it's based on something clear cut, like being declared inactive. for example, someone's going to be out of town and away from the computer on sunday morning, they say i wanna start colston unless he's declared inactive, bruce if he is. since active rosters are sent in at least, what, half hour before the game or something...i think that kind of "conditional" lineup is perfectly acceptable. the big difference being that the "condition" is fulfilled (or not) BEFORE the start of all relevant games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Have no issues with benching SJax, that is a perfectly acceptable strategic decision based on the fact that SJax could conceivably get negative points, however, a factor of that strategic decision making process is that in the NFL there are chances that there will be a statistic change at a later point (happens several times a year), so your owner has to factor that into his lineup decision making process before the games have been played, just like he would factor in any injury concern, weather, etc. that has a potential affect on a player's performance. Your league obviously has rules in place that these statistic changes will be applied based on your original post, hopefully you have well written rules defining how far into the future you will apply statistic changes, particularly since they oftentimes can happen weeks after the fact. In my leagues that I run, statistic changes that come out before the first kickoff of the following week are applied, anything after that is not applied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguinsfan Posted December 11, 2006 Author Share Posted December 11, 2006 I'm beginning to wonder if Penguinsfan is actually the guy in question here, and he's just posed one of those "I have this friend..." scenarios in order to shield himself from the criticism. I was wondering how long it would be before this came up...as it turns out I could only be so lucky...I happened to be playing for the other open playoff spot and ran into Brees/LT/Jones-Drew...bummer Have no issues with benching SJax, that is a perfectly acceptable strategic decision based on the fact that SJax could conceivably get negative points, however, a factor of that strategic decision making process is that in the NFL there are chances that there will be a statistic change at a later point (happens several times a year), so your owner has to factor that into his lineup decision making process before the games have been played, just like he would factor in any injury concern, weather, etc. that has a potential affect on a player's performance. Your league obviously has rules in place that these statistic changes will be applied based on your original post, hopefully you have well written rules defining how far into the future you will apply statistic changes, particularly since they oftentimes can happen weeks after the fact. In my leagues that I run, statistic changes that come out before the first kickoff of the following week are applied, anything after that is not applied. I'm not sure when the statistical changes go into effect, it's usually done automatically via Yahoo! scoring system and it's never decided a game retroactively. As it turns out, though, I made a decision and told him that whatever his lineup is at kickoff tonight is the one that will count forever, regardless of any post-game changes. Looks like he's gonna sit SJax and take his chances. Thanks for the opinions Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 I have a rule in place in 2 leagues i commish that allows an owner to take a zero from a player, instead of mandating them start someone and possibly end up with negative points. However, there is no way i'd allow anyone this type of request. If-ands and buts don't cut it. Either he plays him or he doesn't, no other option should be available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thews40 Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Bush league... tell the anal probe to watch the game and shut up. You have to submit a starting team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake_the_builder Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 If he does sit SJax and goes with the 4th string RB for the Rams, I personally would be worried about the 4th stringer getting negative points from a fumble more than I would of SJax getting negative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 Interesting dilema, and one that happened in our league last week: An owner had already won his head-to-head heading into Monday Night, and still had Delhomme yet to play. he was up by 3 points, so rather than risk the unthinkable (2 INTs, which would result in -4 points), he benched Delhomme and started McNabb (his keeper, who obviously was on his bench). He took the "zero" from McNabb, and walked away with the win. I see nothing wrong with this. However, any kind of condtional issues should not be allowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 I would tell him only if his next opponent was allowed to set his lineup conditionally until he sees which players perform best. That is such an asine question I can't believe he even had the gall to ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bier Meister Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 did he start sjax...and lock it up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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