bushwacked Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 I'm saying that the media is not neutral and it's ludicrous to suggest that it is. It's not the leftist boogeyman some make it out to be. Anni Nicole Smith dominated the news coverage (like entire hour news shows) nonstop the day she died. No one here questioned it. If, for some reason, she had made a disparaging remark about Bush in the last couple years, the righties at the huddle would be foaming at the mouth complaining at the coverage. Her successful reality shows from the last couple years would be totally attributable to a vast left wing media conspiracy. Blaming the liberal media has become a habitual reaction; a simplistic scapegoat that allows one to errouneously dismiss all other facets of what is or isn't popular or newsworhty. Maybe the Dixie Chicks make catchier music and have more sex appeal than that pro-war dude I've never heard of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Neutron Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 It's not the leftist boogeyman some make it out to be. Anni Nicole Smith dominated the news coverage (like entire hour news shows) nonstop the day she died. No one here questioned it. If, for some reason, she had made a disparaging remark about Bush in the last couple years, the righties at the huddle would be foaming at the mouth complaining at the coverage. Her successful reality shows from the last couple years would be totally attributable to a vast left wing media conspiracy. Blaming the liberal media has become a habitual reaction; a simplistic scapegoat that allows one to errouneously dismiss all other facets of what is or isn't popular or newsworhty. Maybe the Dixie Chicks make catchier music and have more sex appeal than that pro-war dude I've never heard of. I'm not blaming the media for anything - just calling a spade a spade. They played the Anna Nicole Smith crap because they are, in the end, a business and too many Americans actually care about that whack, weight-fluxuating, gold-digging, silicone, B-list nutjob. They'll run similar crap when Clinto Eastwood and Charleton Heston die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 And Darryl Worley is a country artist who sings lots of rah rah patriotic stuff like "Have you forgotten? and I just got back from the war. Gotta love that stuff. "I just got back from the war." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 (edited) I'm not blaming the media for anything - just calling a spade a spade. Well, you think that the media is pushing the Dixie Chicks into mainstream America. I'm not really sure what that means or how other apolitical groups aren't being pushed by the media. ETA: Are the dixie chicks even political? Have they really ever rallied against Bush besides that chubby one saying she was embarrassed by him being our president? Edited February 13, 2007 by bushwacked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Neutron Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Well, you think that the media is pushing the Dixie Chicks into mainstream America. I'm not really sure what that means or how other apolitical groups aren't being pushed by the media. ETA: Are the dixie chicks even political? Have they really ever rallied against Bush besides that chubby one saying she was embarrassed by him being our president? I gave a specific instance - MSN .com projects the Chicks in a very favorable light and did not do so until after the London episode. I use MSN as my homepage at work to browse the headlines and have never seen them pimp another artist or group. I'm not saying it's wrong - just that it is what it is. Yes, I think the Chicks are political. They were unknown outside the country genre before Maines commented on their fellow Texan. The anti-Chick rallies and follow up interviews where the Chicks stood by their comments (and I think that was admirable) make them somewhat of a politcal group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 The media is a bunch of leftist wienies, just like the dribble dicks and about 70% of the puddle. It takes a strong man to stand up for himself. It takes an even stronger man to stand up for others. Ben the Cow - Barnyard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 I gave a specific instance - MSN .com projects the Chicks in a very favorable light and did not do so until after the London episode. I use MSN as my homepage at work to browse the headlines and have never seen them pimp another artist or group. I'm not saying it's wrong - just that it is what it is. You could very well be correct, as I'm not a dixie chicks fan, and the times I did have my homepage on MSN, I guess I really never paid attention to the headlines. They were unknown outside the country genre before Maines commented on their fellow Texan. Really? Maybe it was just a coincidence and I was forced to listen to them somewhere, but I generally know next to nothing about todays pop country artists and it seems I was well aware of them before the chubby one commented on Shrub. Maybe not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bier Meister Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 politics aside.... i just don't like their music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiegie Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 politics aside.... i just don't like their music bingo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 music aside....i just dont like their politics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 politics aside.... i just don't like their music Or any country music. My worst nightmare is to find that hell is made up of rappers doing country songs. Or country singers doing rap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Or any country music. My worst nightmare is to find that hell is made up of rappers doing country songs. Or country singers doing rap. They aren't really that country... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bier Meister Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 music aside....i just dont like their politics their politics are much better than their music (though they are a bit stupid) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Dixie Chicks winning multiple Grammys for Not Ready to Make Nice. I hadn't actually heard the song before the awards ceremony. It sounded alright, but kinda bitchy. I've like their music in the past, but this didn't really do anything for me. I thought it was a bit forced to give them these awards, like they were trying to make a statement by doing so. But hey, maybe it really is just about the quality of their music. I can give the beenfit of the doubt on that one. Introduction by Joan Baez. Hmmmmm. Haven't seen this old hippie in a long time. Now it is definitely looking like they are pushing a particular message. But you know what, maybe somehow the Dixie Chicks specifically requested that she be the one to ontroduce them if they won. I don't know. But it didn't sit well with me. On-stage appearance by Al Gore. Enough. Al Gore on stage at the Grammys? Come on! That's the political statement straw that broke this viewer's back. No reason for me to ever tune into the Grammys again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted February 13, 2007 Author Share Posted February 13, 2007 The point is that they clearly didnt deserve any of these awards. The music just isnt very good. But the left wing Hollywood types love sending messages. Or I should say beating us over the head with messages. So, instead of giving the awards to folks who actually DESERVE them, they make a statement. And in doing so, it further dilutes any credibility that the Grammys had left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexgaddis Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Whats this "Grammy Awards" of which you speak?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewer Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 The point is that they clearly didnt deserve any of these awards. The music just isnt very good. But the left wing Hollywood types love sending messages. Or I should say beating us over the head with messages. So, instead of giving the awards to folks who actually DESERVE them, they make a statement. And in doing so, it further dilutes any credibility that the Grammys had left. Who do you think deserved them? If enough people don't agree with the Grammy awards, then I suppose that they will lose all relevance and another award show will take their place. Correct? Maybe you could start the Spainies and give all of the winners a stuffed sheep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 The point is that they clearly didnt deserve any of these awards. The music just isnt very good. But the left wing Hollywood types love sending messages. Or I should say beating us over the head with messages. So, instead of giving the awards to folks who actually DESERVE them, they make a statement. And in doing so, it further dilutes any credibility that the Grammys had left. Sorry. While not a huge fan, the Dixie Chicks clearly are musically talented and have put out alot of good strong music. I know musical taste is subjective, but talent really isn't. You're clearly letting your dislike for their politics skew your thinking here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicCEO Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Hardly. I'm saying there's a reason they pimp the Dixie Chicks vs. a guy like Darryl Worley that sings pro-war tunes. I'm saying that the media is not neutral and it's ludicrous to suggest that it is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darryl_Worley "Seeking to provide support for the ill-fated U.S. invasion of Iraq, Worley recorded "Have You Forgotten," a single nominally inspired by the events of the September 11, 2001 attacks. While it received a Country Music Association nomination for single of the year, the single was widely dismissed outside of the country music business as propaganda for the Bush administration's attempts to tie September 11 to Iraq." I hear people saying we don't need this war I say there's some things worth fighting for What about our freedom and this piece of ground? We didn't get to keep 'em by backing down They say we don't realize the mess we're getting in Before you start preaching Let me ask you this my friend CHORUS 1 Have you forgotten how it felt that day To see your homeland under fire And her people blown away? Have you forgotten when those towers fell? We had neighbors still inside Going through a living hell And you say we shouldn't worry 'bout Bin Laden Have you forgotten? They took all the footage off my T.V. Said it's too disturbing for you and me It'll just breed anger that's what the experts say If it was up to me I'd show it every day Some say this country's just out looking for a fight After 9/11 man I'd have to say that's right CHORUS 1 Have you forgotten how it felt that day To see your homeland under fire And her people blown away? Have you forgotten when those towers fell? We had neighbors still inside Going through a living hell And you say we shouldn't worry 'bout Bin Laden Have you forgotten? I've been there with the soldiers Who've gone away to war And you can bet they remember Just what they're fighting for CHORUS 2 Have you forgotten all the people killed? Some went down like heroes in that Pennsylvania field Have you forgotten about our Pentagon? All the loved ones that we lost And those left to carry on Don't you tell me not to worry about Bin Laden Have you forgotten? Have you forgotten? Have you forgotten? I can't imagine why this song isn't still a huge hit today. Using 9/11 imagery to sell the Iraq war is as popular as it ever was. This guy should be even more popular than Cheney right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Sorry. While not a huge fan, the Dixie Chicks clearly are musically talented and have put out alot of good strong music. I know musical taste is subjective, but talent really isn't. You're clearly letting your dislike for their politics skew your thinking here. I think the Dixie Chicks are talented too, but the Grammys people made the decision to push the political message by having Joan Baez introduce them with her defiant little "they used to tell me to just shut up and sing too" speech. And there's simply no justification (NONE) for having Al Gore up on stage at the Grammys except to hammer home a liberal political message... one that they had been pushing all night. This was clearly not JUST about musical talent. It ALSO had to do with a particular ideology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 It takes a strong man to stand up for himself. It takes an even stronger man to stand up for others. Ben the Cow - Barnyard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted February 13, 2007 Author Share Posted February 13, 2007 Sorry. While not a huge fan, the Dixie Chicks clearly are musically talented and have put out alot of good strong music. I know musical taste is subjective, but talent really isn't. You're clearly letting your dislike for their politics skew your thinking here. Its not really my thinking per se. I am simply reporting what nearly everybody on Music Row in Nashville says. And while not as left leaning as Hollywood, the vast majority in the music biz in Nashville are very liberal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 They are country singers. If they open their mouths for anything but country music, they are speaking out of their ass. Do politicians speak of music and get taken seriously. If you give a crap about the grammys or what some musician says, you are retarded. Get a short-bus (SUV) and fit in with all the other 'tards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicCEO Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 I think the Dixie Chicks are talented too, but the Grammys people made the decision to push the political message by having Joan Baez introduce them with her defiant little "they used to tell me to just shut up and sing too" speech. And there's simply no justification (NONE) for having Al Gore up on stage at the Grammys except to hammer home a liberal political message... one that they had been pushing all night. This was clearly not JUST about musical talent. It ALSO had to do with a particular ideology. I know it's crazy... but is it possible that NOT believing in Bush's failed policies or blatant misstatements of facts is no longer a political ideology... and is actually more of an accepted truth to most people these days? What political position were they pushing at the Grammys? What specific ideology were they endorsing? Saying "Bush is an embarrassment" isn't exactly controversial anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 They are country singers. If they open their mouths for anything but country music, they are speaking out of their ass. Do politicians speak of music and get taken seriously. do politicians speak about politics.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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