Jimmy Neutron Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 02/25/2007 Montana Ban on U.N. flag moves forward by Gwen Florio Tribune Capitol Bureau HELENA — It would be illegal to fly the United Nations flag on state government property under a bill that received preliminary approval Friday from the House of Representatives, which deadlocked on the issue a day earlier. "If we accept the premise that the UN is a government, somewhere along the line our national sovereignty was forfeited," said the bill’s sponsor, Constitution Party member Rick Jore of Ronan. His bill — in which the words "united nations" are deliberately not capitalized — also would forbid any state money being spent to support that group’s programs. When the issue came before the House on Thursday, the vote was 50-50, meaning it didn’t pass but could be brought up again. Rep. Margarett Campbell, D-Poplar, argued vehemently against the bill’s passage on Friday. She said that if UN sanctions were invalid in Montana, then war criminals could find asylum here. The bill states that legal actions such as subpoenas or extradition orders issued by international courts aren’t valid in Montana. Campbell told of how her father, a World War II veteran, was taken prisoner by the Japanese and tortured before surviving the infamous Bataan Death March. "If my father’s captors were ever held accountable for their actions by an international court, I would be outraged to think that they could ever find a safe haven in our beautiful state of Montana," Campbell said. Rep. Ed Butcher, R-Winfred, attributed that argument to "the fuzzy moral thinking that we’re all just one big happy family." For anyone who buys Campbell’s reasoning, he said, "I’ve got a couple of bridges over dry coulees I’d like to sell you." All the House Republicans, along with Jore, apparently agreed with him — the bill was approved 51-49. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiegie Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 well, it's good to see that they are doing something important Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 I bet the same folks who are all for banning the confederate flag are in favor of flying the UN flag over our state houses... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 Nice to see applause for war criminal sanctuaries. Can we get rid of the stars and bars too? There's a flag that has no business being flown in this country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 Nice to see applause for war criminal sanctuaries. Can we get rid of the stars and bars too? There's a flag that has no business being flown in this country. Told you!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Neutron Posted March 3, 2007 Author Share Posted March 3, 2007 well, it's good to see that they are doing something important It's just a message - "we want no part of the UN." I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 It's just a message - "we want no part of the UN." I like it. It's f'n time-wasting idiocy and you know it. As one of the Huddle's most discerning critics of the stupidity of government, you should be all over this waste of taxpayer money. It's no better than the idiot lefty councils flying the flag of the Sandanistas or whoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 It's f'n time-wasting idiocy and you know it. As one of the Huddle's most discerning critics of the stupidity of government, you should be all over this waste of taxpayer money. Agreed! Just like the time wasting idiocy of banning the confederate flag... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 I heard you can drive really fast in that state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Neutron Posted March 3, 2007 Author Share Posted March 3, 2007 It's f'n time-wasting idiocy Compared to the normal efficient and professional manner of state legislatures everywhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furd Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 If I want to fly a UN flag, I should be able to fly a UN flag. This is America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furd Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 It's f'n . . . idiocy Pretty much sums it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 Agreed! Just like the time wasting idiocy of banning the confederate flag... Except that the UN didn't lose a war on this contry's soil in the pursuit of not having to work. Loser's flag typically don't fly in the coutry that whupped them. Just sayin'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 Except that the UN didn't lose a war on this contry's soil in the pursuit of not having to work. Loser's flag typically don't fly in the coutry that whupped them. Just sayin'. Neither does a flag like the UN, which dedicated to the destruction of that country... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isleseeya Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 Montana is part of canada i believe ...but montana does have great professional sports teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isleseeya Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 I heard you can drive really fast in that state. and without clothes on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Like Soup Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 I think the argument of Montana serving as a possible refuge for war criminals is ludicrous. That state's laws would not supercede the laws of the Feds so the Feds could come in and get whomever. The wasting of taxpayer money, now that is valid, in my opinion. Oh, and the UN sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 Oh, and the UN sucks. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 the stars and stripes should be the world flag!!! world domination!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 the stars and stripes should be the world flag!!! world domination!!! Yeah, we've proven in Iraq that we can occupy the whole world with no problem! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrunt Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 Yeah, we've proven in Iraq that we can occupy the whole world with no problem! It's called Nukes. We'd use those first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 It's called Nukes. We'd use those first. That's a good idea. Nothing like occupying all the world's countries in a Hamzat suit, geiger counters clicking relentlessly. BTW, side note. You do know there are four other countries with very large independent nuclear forces c/w inter-continental delivery systems, plus three more with smaller ones, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 It's called Nukes. We'd use those first. So then we can occupy radioactive countries (not to mention the nukes that would have landed on US soil.) I didn't think it was possible, but i think i just found someone with a worse military mind than Donald Rumsfeld. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 That's a good idea. Nothing like occupying all the world's countries in a Hamzat suit, geiger counters clicking relentlessly. BTW, side note. You do know there are four other countries with very large independent nuclear forces c/w inter-continental delivery systems, plus three more with smaller ones, right? Of course not. Those with "It's a Game of Risk" mentality don't understand actual geopolitics and forget we could have our ass handed to us very easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 If I want to fly a UN flag, I should be able to fly a UN flag. This is America. You can. You just can't do it on state government property in Montana. I thought you lawyer types were supposed to excel at reading and all that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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