loaf Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Not my story but could be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Great article. I have completely ignored the so-called MP3 revolution and the whole farrago of crap that is the digital rights management arena. I have stayed with CDs because the whole music download world is a crock of low quality crap. So I called Rhino customer support and after an 8 minute wait spoke with a representative. She informed me that the files were indeed copy protected so that I could only play them on specific music players, most notably not iTunes. "You don't understand," I said, "These files were not copied or pirated, I actually purchased them." "Well" she responded, "You didn't actually purchase the files, you really purchased a license to listen to the music, and the license is very specific about how they can be played or listened to." Now I was baffled. "Records never came with any such restrictions," I said. She replied, "Well they were supposed to, but we weren't able to enforce those licenses back then, and now we can" She later went on to explain that I could burn the songs to a CD and listen to them in a regular CD player, but I would need an additional Windows based music player to listen to them on my computer. But either way, she suggested there was no way the files could be played on my iPod. to the music industry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 You know when I first read the title of this thread, I thought gay week started all over again. I hear pirate and think butt pirate and thought Loaf was going to be telling about the time at band camp when he played his first ever skin flute. Silly me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted March 21, 2007 Author Share Posted March 21, 2007 I had tunes that I had BOUGHT from musicmatch or something like it. I had tried to export them to import into iTunes. No can do, copy protected WAV files. I deleted them and bought them all over again from iTunes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 It's not free music that drives some people to piracy,Well maybe not entirely. Don't hurt though. to the music industry.Exactly. I just saw on the news where CD sales have dropped 7 years in a row and this year alone have dropped 20%. sniffle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menudo Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 You know when I first read the title of this thread, I thought gay week started all over again. I hear pirate and think butt pirate and thought Loaf was going to be telling about the time at band camp when he played his first ever skin flute. Silly me. Another swing and a miss.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Well maybe not entirely. Don't hurt though. Exactly. I just saw on the news where CD sales have dropped 7 years in a row and this year alone have dropped 20%. sniffle Haven't bought a CD in years. Use to be a big Napster guy, but have since stopped downloading myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ill Nuts Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 (edited) iTunes is complete bullSega!. Runs like a hog, takes 14 attempts to import a file, and is just a clunker in general. I've heard it runs good on a mac, super, I'm still not buying one. And really, who is Apple to decide how many devices you can play something on? So, here's what you do. D/L and install this piece of freeware called Floola @ www.floola.com. It lets you import and export files from iPods, drops them onto your h/d and strips the DRM bullSega!, as well as a host of other interesting things. Edit: OK I lied, it does let you rip songs from an iPod, but the DRM hooey will still follow you around like that fat girl in 8th grade that used to leave notes in your locker and stalk you on the way home and kill your rabbits (I'm looking at you, Amber) so it looks like the old method of burning a CD then ripping from the CD is still the way to go Edited March 21, 2007 by Ill Nuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Being a thief is wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cre8tiff Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Being a thief is wrong. So is starting unecessary wars based on lies and deceit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menudo Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 So is starting unecessary wars based on lies and deceit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 So is starting unecessary wars based on lies and deceit. Well, everyone might as well stop posting now. As to the topic at hand, I think the record industry's death-grip on their outmoded business model is doing it more harm than good. Those who "love" music will say "f*ck it" soon enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 who cares about music anymore?....I get movies from the internet and play them on the PS3.... this is the next level of pirating movies.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ill Nuts Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Being a thief is wrong. So is paying the artist a nickel per CD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 So is paying the artist a nickel per CD No artist has to accept that. Dont pretend yer some sort of noble Robin Hood figure fighting the man and protecting artists from evil record companies by stealing property. If you illegally copy music or movies yer just a thief. Period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonorator Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 As to the topic at hand, I think the record industry's death-grip on their outmoded business model is doing it more harm than good. Those who "love" music will say "f*ck it" soon enough. this is the heart of the discussion. the music industry is becoming obsolete as we speak and they are fighting tooth and nail to hold on to all the profits they can before they become irrelevant. the ability to distribute your music now no longer depends on an industry to produce and distribute discs. they are trying to use a radically different medium to enforce an archaic model and it will not last. better business models, such as itunes, will continue to emerge to take the old power players out of the game. oh, and itunes runs like a charm on the mac. i love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egret Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 I had tunes that I had BOUGHT from musicmatch or something like it. I had tried to export them to import into iTunes. No can do, copy protected WAV files. I deleted them and bought them all over again from iTunes. I bought a bunch of songs from the "new" Napster. I don't use iTunes. When I upgraded to the latest and greatest Windows Media Player, I lost a bunch of songs from Napster due to DRM issues. I bought the songs, I want to hear them! Some were no longer available for download (mainly remixes). I was able to redownload some of them... but what a pain! Next time I upgrade, I'll make sure I have a backup copy of my songs... sans the DRM. Being a thief is wrong. So is DRM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 I bought a bunch of songs from the "new" Napster. I don't use iTunes. When I upgraded to the latest and greatest Windows Media Player, I lost a bunch of songs from Napster due to DRM issues. I bought the songs, I want to hear them! Some were no longer available for download (mainly remixes). I was able to redownload some of them... but what a pain! Next time I upgrade, I'll make sure I have a backup copy of my songs... sans the DRM. So is DRM. If you are talking about digital rights management laws and technology, I generally agree with you that they are out of control. But that isnt a justification to steal like some claim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Another swing and a miss.............. Oh well... not gonna stop me from trying. And that was some good chit too. I waste alot of good, solid humor on this board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonorator Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 So is paying the artist a nickel per CD so they get a nickelback? i thought it was funny, but it could just be irish-talk ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Oh well... not gonna stop me from trying. And that was some good chit too. I waste alot of good, solid humor on this board. Are you talking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Another swing and a miss.............. Actually now that you've acknowledged that it was a swing and a miss it really becomes more of a foul tip. Thanks for the upgrade! Are you talking? Hi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 So is paying the artist a nickel per CD I think the thing is that with the long tail and internet-ization of music media, the large companies are becoming increasingly irrelevant. Sure, it's GREAT for a band to have the resources of a large company behind them, but the future appears to be in MUCH higher profits on a smaller sales base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menudo Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Actually now that you've acknowledged that it was a swing and a miss it really becomes more of a foul tip. Thanks for the upgrade! .....and another miss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 If you are talking about digital rights management laws and technology, I generally agree with you that they are out of control. But that isnt a justification to steal like some claim. In general, I have always agreed with your stance on illegal downloading. Personally, I never have done this. It is theft, however it is dressed up as rebellion or whatever. Nevertheless, the whole DRM thing is becoming ridiculous. If digital downloads really are the future, then fragmenting the download capability so that music will only play on certain devices and, in general, lessening the portability of the music from where it has always been is totally counter-productive. The music industry deserves everything it is getting. It has always been legal to copy music you have purchased for your own use e.g. taping an LP, copying an LP to CD (something I am still wading my way through). All music used to play on all devices intended to play it - there was no restriction on who made your cassette player - the tape would play in any player. Forcing the use of certain players and making people double up in many cases will hasten the death of this dinosaur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.