Bronco Billy Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 With 5.53 on the clock in the 4th quarter the Redskins got the ball and had every starter in the game. the last TD scored by a starting player was Cooleys TD. So you are taking the Redskins to task for having their starters on the field on the losing end of a blow out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Holliday Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 So you are taking the Redskins to task for having their starters on the field on the losing end of a blow out? If the game is out of hand..why should only the winning team pull their players? It is the exact same thing...you don't want to get your players hurt and their is no reason to leave them in there during a blowout. I mean I would of personally pulled my players sooner if I was the Pats...but if I was the Redskins I would of done the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 You played in the NFL? Cause I'm talking about professional men here earning a living, not college boys or powder puff. But I'd be willing to bet and your ilk are more upset this morning about the Patriots "running up the score" than most if not all of the Redskins. You start off by disclaiming what he's writing because he's not an NFL player, but then you profess to speak for the 'Skins' players two paragraphs later? Put this under the definition of ironic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 For those of you fixating on the fact that it was NE's 2nd string QB going for it on 4th down... On the next series; the backup QB went for it on 4th down. And cry me a river for running it on a 4th and 1inside the 10 instead of kicking a field goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 0ne Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 If the game is out of hand..why should only the winning team pull their players? It is the exact same thing...you don't want to get your players hurt and their is no reason to leave them in there during a blowout. I mean I would of personally pulled my players sooner if I was the Pats...but if I was the Redskins I would of done the same. I think one thing you want to do when getting the living tits beaten out of you it is to take something positive from the game. Scoring an offensive TD was that bright spot. Sure, it's not much, but it's something, and it might carry over to next week, and if it does, it's a great play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Holliday Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 On the next series; the backup QB went for it on 4th down. And cry me a river for running it on a 4th and 1inside the 10 instead of kicking a field goal. Maybe they were afraid they might get the kicker hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Holliday Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 I think one thing you want to do when getting the living tits beaten out of you it is to take something positive from the game. Scoring an offensive TD was that bright spot. Sure, it's not much, but it's something, and it might carry over to next week, and if it does, it's a great play. What was gonna come out of this game that was positive for the Redskins? with a guy like Portis who has had injury problems what was he doing in there with under 5 minutes to go? Both teams should be talked about here if 1 team is. especially when the Skins were the last team to have their starters on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 If the game is out of hand..why should only the winning team pull their players? It is the exact same thing...you don't want to get your players hurt and their is no reason to leave them in there during a blowout. I mean I would of personally pulled my players sooner if I was the Pats...but if I was the Redskins I would of done the same. I don't mean to be too disrespectful, Doc, but Jiminy Christmas, have you ever played a team sport? It is one of the bastions of any sport that you take your foot off the gas when you have a team beaten to the point to where they not only can't possibly beat you but you've embarasssed them thoroughly, and it's also one of the bastions that you don't quit no matter how badly you're getting waxed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Holliday Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 I don't mean to be too disrespectful, Doc, but Jiminy Christmas, have you ever played a team sport? It is one of the bastions of any sport that you take your foot off the gas when you have a team beaten to the point to where they not only can't possibly beat you but you've embarasssed them thoroughly, and it's also one of the bastions that you don't quit no matter how badly you're getting waxed. I have played Baseball ,football and Basketball as well as even Volleyball on teams. I agree though that both teams should of got their starters out. I am only defending the Patriots because they are the only team being mentioned here. being unbeaten does that I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 being unbeaten does that I guess. That NE is unbeaten has nothing to do with the argument and is quite frankly a very poorly constructed straw man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Holliday Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 That NE is unbeaten has nothing to do with the argument and is quite frankly a very poorly constructed straw man. I see...then why no reference to Gibbs having his starters in? having Portis in who has stayed hurt the last few years. I am starting to see objectivity has been thrown out of this debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 I see...then why no reference to Gibbs having his starters in? having Portis in who has stayed hurt the last few years. I am starting to see objectivity has been thrown out of this debate. Dude, Objectivity was barred at the door. Heck, I think it might even be against Forum Rules. DMD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 (edited) I see...then why no reference to Gibbs having his starters in? having Portis in who has stayed hurt the last few years. I am starting to see objectivity has been thrown out of this debate. Ummmm - Maybe because the situation has to do with that fact that NE was WINNING and WAS was LOSING in the game? What does that have to do with either team's season record? @ the loss of objectivity reference also. Edited October 29, 2007 by Bronco Billy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xMRogers Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 I'm amazed at the amount of crying going on over this. People don't run the ball through the middle out of respect when up 28 in the NFL. They do it cause it's usually the smart play as it winds the clock down faster. WIth the pats, the smart play is to keep playing the way you are. Look, I hate the Pats and Sox for the most part, because as a Philly fan, we entered the 2000's generally even with them - teams that are mostly decent (well, the Phillies were a bit diff., but had their shots) who can't get it over the hump. Now, they are kings of the world in both sports and Philly fans are just more and more bitter. However, that in no way means a team like the Pats needs to slow down cause their up 4 or 5 scores. Eventually, that may bite them in a "up 28 turns into up 7 due to 2 turnovers and an onside kick" sort of thing, or due to an injury, but this is the pros and if they want to run a flea flicker up 30, just stop it or shut up.... (hating the skins as I do, that was fun to watch actually) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furd Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 You start off by disclaiming what he's writing because he's not an NFL player, but then you profess to speak for the 'Skins' players two paragraphs later? Put this under the definition of ironic. You didn't read far enough back. I was talking about men playing professional football for a living. He asked me if I played "organized" football, which isn't relevant at all to my point. In any event, I stand by my comment that there's likely less crying and teeth gnashing going in the Redskins locker room (or where ever they are today) than on this board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 The problem of perception in all of this is that the actions of the Patriots towards the end of the game only fed a sentiment that already existed. It is not the first time people have called them out for a lack of sportsmanship, I remember them inserting players like Vrabel and others in blowouts just to run trick plays and give them a touchdown. Didn't they let Flutie kick a field goal for giggles in one game that was well in hand? It is just perceived as disrespect to the opponent and a lack of sportsmanship displayed to all who watch including kids that want to mimic behavior. The Pats are perfectly free to run up scores or just kneel on the ball and in the end all that matters for the game is the win or loss. But it will come back to haunt them at some later date when they are stuggling again. Unfortunately that may end up to be a burden for some other coach to incur after Belichick leaves. It feels good to fans to see their team roll up big wins which is undeniable. And it is perceived as a lack of sportsmanship and respect by others when they do it. It does not offend my personal sensibilities that they do that though for the "good of the game" it would be preferable that they didn't IMO. And they are just stoking the coals of a fire that will burn later against them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 In any event, I stand by my comment that there's likely less crying and teeth gnashing going in the Redskins locker room (or where ever they are today) than on this board. I disagree with you. How do you propose that we resolve this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furd Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 I disagree with you. How do you propose that we resolve this? Your choice. I'm an ace at rock, paper and scissors, so be forewarned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 0ne Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 If Belichick wants to run up the score with his starters in the game, Gibbs can put 11 men on the line and blitz on every single play. That might make Bill rethink his strategy when Brady's eating out of a straw for the next 6 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msaint Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 If Belichick wants to run up the score with his starters in the game, Gibbs can put 11 men on the line and blitz on every single play. That might make Bill rethink his strategy when Brady's eating out of a straw for the next 6 weeks. Until a defense solves this kick-arse offensive line, Brady will have all day to set up....and.won't be eating anything but Gisele. Enjoy that image for the rest of the day, Brady-haters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtra Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 Until a defense solves this kick-arse offensive line, Brady will have all day to set up....and.won't be eating anything but Gisele. Enjoy that image for the rest of the day, Brady-haters You dont have to solve anything if you send 11 and hit late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 Since we've got six threads on the "running up the score" issue or related, I thought I'd push this one back to the top just so that it doesn't feel left out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Cid Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 You dont have to solve anything if you send 11 and hit late. So now you're advocating flagrantly disregarding the rules and actively trying to injure a player. That's some class right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egret Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 Nobody ever runs up the score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 Nobody ever runs up the score. I don't know how late in the 4th quarter that last TD pass was, but the Skins were only up by 17 when it happened. Hardly a complete ass kicking. The last TD was defensive... Next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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