whomper Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 (edited) So as I understand it the Mitchell report has been handed to the suits in baseball and as early as tomorrow the list may become public. How are you going to feel if your favorite player or a big name on your team is on the list ? What do you think the aftermath of the list is going to be like ? I wanted to put a little game for fun together that we can do in this thread but I am not sure how far back in years the list goes. I know they said about 80 -90 current and former players are on the list. I figured for the hell of it we should all list about 12 players we think will be named and see how we do when it comes out. You can list more or less if you like. I know of the obvious names we are all thinking of but I wonder if any of us can pick a guy that flew under the radar but you were suspicious of them. I am going to list my obvious guys as well as anyone else I can think of . Again I dont know how far the report goes back so my list may be irrelevant or off but here it goes Obvious guys that might be on the list Giambi Tejada Pudge Bonds Palmiero Sosa McGuire Gary Matthews Brady Anderson (not sure if they are going back that far) Luis Gonzalez Not so obvious pure speculation Kerry Wood Mike Piazza Eric Chavez Who do you think might be on the list ? Edited December 12, 2007 by whomper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicCEO Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Certainly nobody on the Sox. Definitely Roger Clemens, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isleseeya Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I agree with majority of your list I am adding Clemens to the list ( speculation for sure ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonorator Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 interesting that the report will only name 80 players or so when over 4000 passed through baseball during the steroid era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 interesting that the report will only name 80 players or so when over 4000 passed through baseball during the steroid era. yeah, you can spin that either way. you can say, "look, it's only 80 out of 4000"....or you can say, "80 is an awful lot of cheaters, and that's just the people they found significant evidence against". i'll add brett boone to the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 So as I understand it the Mitchell report has been handed to the suits in baseball and as early as tomorrow the list may become public. How are you going to feel if your favorite player or a big name on your team is on the list ? What do you think the aftermath of the list is going to be like ? I wanted to put a little game for fun together that we can do in this thread but I am not sure how far back in years the list goes. I know they said about 80 -90 current and former players are on the list. I figured for the hell of it we should all list about 12 players we think will be named and see how we do when it comes out. You can list more or less if you like. I know of the obvious names we are all thinking of but I wonder if any of us can pick a guy that flew under the radar but you were suspicious of them. I am going to list my obvious guys as well as anyone else I can think of . Again I dont know how far the report goes back so my list may be irrelevant or off but here it goes Obvious guys that might be on the list Giambi Tejada Pudge Bonds Palmiero Sosa McGuire Gary Matthews Brady Anderson (not sure if they are going back that far) Luis Gonzalez Not so obvious pure speculation Kerry Wood Mike Piazza Eric Chavez Who do you think might be on the list ? I'm a bgi Cubs fan and I find the inclusion of Wood puzzling. If it's because he's "always hurt" I would just say that for YEARS many were saying his mechanics were flawed, because he brought his arm across his body, which everyone knows leads to unnecessary stress. In the light of his changing his motion, he's remained injury free without losing velocity. If you ever saw his s20 strikeout game you'd see pitches he stopped making the next season. Mark Prior might be able to replace him on the list, but he never came back off the line drive off his elbow, if anyone remembers that. He was never the same. I think the list if going to comprised of people who we'll be like HE was on steroids? See Neifi Perez just this past off-season. If he was juiced and still that bad.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 no really.. athletes u steroids.. u have to be kidding ..... jebus there using them in high school, if you dont think at least 80 % of the pro's are u are delusional Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easy n Dirty Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 If Clemens is there, and I think (and hope fervently) that he will be, then Andy Pettite has to be a real possibility. Piazza would bum me out as a Mets fan, but I think he's likely to be there unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godtomsatan Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Who do you think might be on the list ? Every player who has played the game, majors and minors, since 1995 has already been indicted by association. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunning Linguist Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 speculating on some due to numbers that dropped dramatically since 05+ Soriano Glaus Carlos Guillen V Wells Beltran Andrew Jones Brian Roberts Sheff Abreu Beltre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted December 12, 2007 Author Share Posted December 12, 2007 I'm a bgi Cubs fan and I find the inclusion of Wood puzzling. If it's because he's "always hurt" I would just say that for YEARS many were saying his mechanics were flawed, because he brought his arm across his body, which everyone knows leads to unnecessary stress. In the light of his changing his motion, he's remained injury free without losing velocity. If you ever saw his s20 strikeout game you'd see pitches he stopped making the next season. Mark Prior might be able to replace him on the list, but he never came back off the line drive off his elbow, if anyone remembers that. He was never the same. I think the list if going to comprised of people who we'll be like HE was on steroids? See Neifi Perez just this past off-season. If he was juiced and still that bad.... Woods was pure speculation on my part and yes it was because of the always injured factor . Good points about his mechanics..Another random guy that might be on the list is Mike sweeney from the Royals..I wonder if Chipper Jones makes the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isleseeya Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Every player who has played the game, majors and minors, since 1995 has already been indicted by association. I think Glavine snuck by Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I think Glavine snuck by i also think greg maddux didnt get any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunning Linguist Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Add Bronson Arroyo to the list. Any white guy that gets cornrows HAS to be on the juice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goopster24 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Mitchell is having a press conference at 2pm eastern tomorrow. There are going to be a mix of big names and no names on this list. It should be very interesting. While I am interested to see who is on the list, it won't bother me if players on my team, the Cubs, are on the list. This steroids thing is a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 juan pierre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godtomsatan Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I'd like to believe that Ken Griffey, Jr. is clean. I imagine that Alex Rodriguez is clean also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheikYerbuti Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 How are you going to feel if your favorite player or a big name on your team is on the list ? As a Yankee fan, I have my fingers crossed that Jason Giambi will finally be absolved and people will stop pointing fingers at him without any hard evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Luis Gonzalez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muck Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I was thinking about Sweeney, too ... would be sad. He's widely viewed as a very good guy around town. The Pure Speculation List: Jermaine Dye Johnny Damon Carolos Beltran ...plus any other former KC Royal who was worth anything did pretty much anything they could to get out of town w/ a big contract. Plus maybe Pedro Martinez? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easy n Dirty Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Plus maybe Pedro Martinez? As a Mets fan, that's another one that would bug me, although it's the first time I've heard him mentioned in this context - why Pedro? He certainly doesn't have the physique for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godtomsatan Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Plus maybe Pedro Martinez? Pedro would surprise me. He isn't a physical specimen, and his body breaks down an awful lot. Plus, he's developed into a finesse pitcher as his career has worn on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controller Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 (edited) Add to the list, based upon info I heard from my son's pitching coach who was in MLB (minor leagues, instructional leagues, etc) for 5 or 6 years: Eric Gagne, the closer edit to correct first name Edited December 13, 2007 by Controller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isleseeya Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Pedro would surprise me. He isn't a physical specimen, and his body breaks down an awful lot. Plus, he's developed into a finesse pitcher as his career has worn on. thinking same exact thing ..i dont see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yip Cabbage Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 anyone remember Ron Grant??? Guy had arms bigger than my thighs! He makes the list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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