irish Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 (edited) Is there a place for physical contact in the classroom? I was thinking about this being that I work with some very challenging kids who need special assistance and attention (No, I've never hit a child, but I've had to bear hug a couple to prevent them from hurting themselves or others). When I went to school as a child (private school) the teachers (not all) would take it upon themselves to get physical with misbehaving students. From grabbing them by the ear, to hitting their knuckles with rulers, to flat out slapping them if they thought it was necessary. Now leave all the legalities out of the argument for the moment and just take this at face value. Would you allow one of your child's teachers to be physical with your child if they were misbehaving? Discuss... Edited April 4, 2008 by irish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 Depends... if my kid is physically hurting another kid (or even the teacher given the recent story of 3rd graders plotting to kill their teacher) then by all means use appropriate physical force to correct or protect. If my kid is just being a clown or otherwise acting up, then you better not touch him unless you are prepared for me to hurt you severely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polksalet Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 We signed the slip to beat him. If he gets beaten at school, he gets beaten at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted April 4, 2008 Author Share Posted April 4, 2008 We signed the slip to beat him. If he gets beaten at school, he gets beaten at home. And that's exactly what used to happen when I was a kid. Hearing the story of what happened in school wasn't even a requirement for my parents. If I got a wack in school and they got a call at home, I was a shoe-in for a beaten when I got home as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 How's the huddle hotties tourney coming along? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 It's not good to beat the kids. What do you do the next time and the time after that when they don't learn? Do you escalate the physical harm to the kid until they learn? Many kids would be amongst the non-living. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted April 4, 2008 Author Share Posted April 4, 2008 How's the huddle hotties tourney coming along? Looks like it's going about as well as can be expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polksalet Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 It's not good to beat the kids. What do you do the next time and the time after that when they don't learn? Do you escalate the physical harm to the kid until they learn? Many kids would be amongst the non-living. If you do it right, you don't have to keep it up. If you have to keep it up, you are helping no one. It has worked for thousands of years, why change?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted April 4, 2008 Author Share Posted April 4, 2008 It's not good to beat the kids. What do you do the next time and the time after that when they don't learn? Do you escalate the physical harm to the kid until they learn? Many kids would be amongst the non-living. Very true. However, to each is own. I've known kids to respond differently to an isolated crack or threat of a crack from a parent/teacher. Constant beatens or even smacks when the kid isn't learning anything or improving are useless and will usually make the kid more defiant. Open communication and a little tough love goes a long way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Trick Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 I can discipline my own kids, if I find out that someone else has that isn't family then you will not like the way I handle it with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 When it comes down to it, all training is either reward based or correction based. If the correction is not severe enough or not used at all, the training is completely ineffective. After all, if the undesired action is more fun or rewarding to the kid than the reward is and if the correction is mild enough, they'll simply do an on the spot cost analysis. I mean, think about the punishment of getting sent home from school. Are you kidding me? That's a freaking punishment? Unless mom and dad have some f'ed up plans for you when you get there, that's a freaking vacation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 If you do it right, you don't have to keep it up. If you have to keep it up, you are helping no one. It has worked for thousands of years, why change?? When I was a kid, I didn't want to go to bed at night. I remember one time my Dad asked me if he had to take his belt off? I didn't know what that had to do with me going to bed. Yea, I grew up with punishment like that, but it doesn't help kids that need more comprehension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 I wouldnt even let my parents whack my kid nevermind a teacher. If they had to physically restrain my kid or protect themselves from my kid I would have to understand to a point. If like savage said they just whacked her for clowning around their would be hell to pay. I got choked by a teacher when I was in cathloic grammar school. actually held against the blackboard and choked. I was so embarrased in front of the other kids that I never even told my parents. My dad was a cop. It would have gotten ugly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egret Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 In general, schools in the south allow hitting of children,schools in the north don't. Which schools tend to do better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Irish Doggy Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 In general, schools in the south allow hitting of children,schools in the north don't. Which schools tend to do better? Detroit schools are way better. Duh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polksalet Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 In general, schools in the south allow hitting of children,schools in the north don't. Which schools tend to do better? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Detroit ROCK city!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Agent Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 In general, schools in the south allow hitting of children,schools in the north don't. Which schools tend to do better? That's bullet proof logic there. Couldn't have anything to do with immigration...it must be the spankings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicCEO Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 restraining? yes. hurting? no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 (edited) restraining? yes. hurting? no. [theoffice] That's what she said [/theoffice] Edited April 5, 2008 by Savage Beatings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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