WaterMan Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-sto...orget-my-taxes/ I would be surprised if homosexuals in mass didn't pay their taxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cre8tiff Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Taste the rainbow, Ahnold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pig devilz Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 since when is marriage a 'right'? she has her church and state a bit mixed up. i could really care less, but was surprised to see Cali shoot this down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holy Roller Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Her music is gay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millerx Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 (edited) http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-sto...orget-my-taxes/ I would be surprised if homosexuals in mass didn't pay their taxes. Meh... they are already use to the messicans not paying anything... what's a few more gheys not paying gonna amount to....besides, they now have the "rich" to foot the bill. I wonder how many of them are ghey? Actually, this will be a good way to force out all those closet h0mos so we can see finally see who they are.... Edited November 12, 2008 by millerx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muck Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 IMO, the church's definition of "marriage" need not equal the state's definition of the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millerx Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Does this mean if I claim that I have been inflicted with the gheyness, I don't have to pay taxes? Sweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 I knew gheys were unpatriotic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robash Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 since when is marriage a 'right'? she has her church and state a bit mixed up. You shall have no other gods before meYou shall not make for yourself an idol You shall not make wrongful use of the name of your God Remember the Sabbath and keep it holy Honor your father and mother You shall not murder You shall not commit adultery You shall not steal You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor You shall not covet your neighbor's wife You shall not covet anything that belongs to your neighbor You shall get a tax break for being married ...i take it back, they should all burn in hell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 I don't agree w/all the laws my state has passed either, but I think I'll just skip the rambling whine (did anyone actually read all that) and stop paying taxes too. In fact that's a brilliant idea - if your state doesn't draw all its lines exactly where you do, you shouldn't have to pay taxes. You go girlfriend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicCEO Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 My son has been watching "Veggie Tales" videos, and watching it has been helping my view of Christianity, because the religious lessons they are teaching kids are good lessons about loving your enemy, respecting your fellow man, and the golden rule. I like it. I want my kids to learn this stuff. Then adult Christians start talking and I realize that many of them are hateful, disrespectful, and cruel... and they don't have a chance to get into the heaven they teach kids about. It is very perplexing to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted November 12, 2008 Author Share Posted November 12, 2008 IMO, the church's definition of "marriage" need not equal the state's definition of the same. True. but the Force is strong in the Neocons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted November 12, 2008 Author Share Posted November 12, 2008 I'm waiting for the Veggie Tales episode where they sing on how bombing people based on differing religions is ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millerx Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 My son has been watching "Veggie Tales" videos, and watching it has been helping my view of Christianity, because the religious lessons they are teaching kids are good lessons about loving your enemy, respecting your fellow man, and the golden rule. I like it. I want my kids to learn this stuff. Then adult Christians start talking and I realize that many of them are hateful, disrespectful, and cruel... and they don't have a chance to get into the heaven they teach kids about. It is very perplexing to me. Thanks for the insight on "Veggie Tales"...seriously. I have not introduced it to my children because I was concerned about brainwashing them with a narrow view of religion. I read one book of Veggie Tales (it was one of the only books available) to my 5 year old while waiting in her doctors office and It had some good messages. Like the ones you stated. But I was also kind of turned off by some of the blatant, narrow-minded, brainwashing, christian views. I haven't revisited the characters since, but might take another look now. I was raised a church-goer and believe in most of values and morals that christianity preaches, however, my parents and education were able to broaden my view of other beliefs outside its boundaries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 (edited) Another Daily Beast reader here. This is disturbing... Prop 8 was defeated with heavy financial support of the extremely wealthy and nutty Ahmanson. Good and disturbing read. Prop 8 passed with the vote of the very same people that voted for Obama. "The ban in California was particularly intriguing.Proposition 8 would have failed in the Golden State if it were up to white voters, who opposed it by a 51-49 ratio. What carried it over the top was enormous support from black voters, with about 70 percent of them backing it. Hispanics also supported the ban by significant, though smaller, margins. In Florida,where a similar ban required a 60 percent margin,Amendment 2 just barely passed, getting 60 percent of the white vote. The cushion came from blacks, who voted 71 percent in favor, and Latinos, who voted 64 percent in favor. " Barack Obama Yes,Gay Marriage No Edited November 12, 2008 by Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 And if they don't pay there taxes, they can go to jail and get married there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H8tank Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Help is coming: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0B7dOQwKm0&eurl= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 (edited) Sorry, I meant to say it passed. What I was trying to say was that human rights were defeated. As for the same people, I think that the extensive advertising helped confuse and cloud the prop and I bet some people voted for it, but wouldn't have if the advertising hadn't happened. The proponents of prop 8 won this ballot with there advertising...you are correct. The angle they used was reporting that a Mass school had started to teach elementary children about gay marriage (the book is The King and The King I think) and that if passed, by current law, gay marriage WOULD be taught in 96% of all California schools. It was assured to pass the second that add ( there were 3 different adds with the same message) aired 10+ times a day. Edited November 12, 2008 by tazinib1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicCEO Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Thanks for the insight on "Veggie Tales"...seriously. I have not introduced it to my children because I was concerned about brainwashing them with a narrow view of religion. I read one book of Veggie Tales (it was one of the only books available) to my 5 year old while waiting in her doctors office and It had some good messages. Like the ones you stated. But I was also kind of turned off by some of the blatant, narrow-minded, brainwashing, christian views. I haven't revisited the characters since, but might take another look now. I was raised a church-goer and believe in most of values and morals that christianity preaches, however, my parents and education were able to broaden my view of other beliefs outside its boundaries. I'm a long way from a religious man. I haven't seen any brainwashing yet, and believe me... I'm hypersensitive to it. Stay away from Miss Pattycake. That stuff is indoctrination. It scared the hell out of me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westvirginia Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 WTF? come on now. How is that current law? I never learned about hetero marriage at any level of schooling. If I had, I might have avoided marrying my ex... dumb bitch He didn't say it was current law, he said it was what the prop 8 proponents were saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicCEO Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 WTF? How dumb am I? five? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westvirginia Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 WTF? How dumb am I? Man, when you hang a curveball belt-high out over the middle of the plate like that... Must...not...swing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Neutron Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 We should sell California back to Mexico. They aleady speak the language. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pig devilz Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 My son has been watching "Veggie Tales" videos, and watching it has been helping my view of Christianity, because the religious lessons they are teaching kids are good lessons about loving your enemy, respecting your fellow man, and the golden rule. I like it. I want my kids to learn this stuff. Then adult Christians start talking and I realize that many of them are hateful, disrespectful, and cruel... and they don't have a chance to get into the heaven they teach kids about. It is very perplexing to me. teach these things to your children yourself......you seem like a good guy. you don't need the catholic church putting their spin on it. i know exactly what you're saying about the adults.....after 12 years of catholic sKool (hehe) i couldn't get away fast enough....hell, even the priests where nasty when i was an alterboy (no, not like that) and nuns! god help us!....there is alot of good in the catholic teachings, but hey, it's common sense/good human being stuff. i don't need all the other bullcrap they tote along with it...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muck Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 My son has been watching "Veggie Tales" videos, and watching it has been helping my view of Christianity, because the religious lessons they are teaching kids are good lessons about loving your enemy, respecting your fellow man, and the golden rule. I like it. I want my kids to learn this stuff. Then adult Christians start talking and I realize that many of them are hateful, disrespectful, and cruel... and they don't have a chance to get into the heaven they teach kids about. It is very perplexing to me. 1) Veggie Tales are hilarious. Larry is a great character. 2) Just because adults who espouse a particular belief do not always act as if that belief system has fully permeated their being does not make the belief any more or less legitimate (i.e., they're screwed up people, just like the rest of us) ... AND ... it doesn't negate whatever truth there is in the belief system. I'm sure that many Hindi's have eaten a hamburger only to wonder if they just at Aunt Hoodi ... same sorta thing with a Christian calling someone else a "GD MF'r". 3) The French Peas and the Grandpa Grape are great bit characters. Not much for Laura Carrot, but I do like Junior Asperagus. 4) Nobody deserves to get into heaven. Lots of very screwed up people will, though. I'm planning on being one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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