Riffraff Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Potential free agent QBs in 2009: 1. Warner will be the QB to get if he doesn't re-sign or get franchised. I think he re-signs in Arizona. 2. Smith could get cut. He's a young top draft pick. I think he renegotiates and stays with the Niners and would get yet another OC change in his career. 3. Grossman has a Super Bowl appearance on his resume. I can see him going to Minny like Berrian did. Minny is in a "win now" window and Grossman knows the team well enough as a division rival. 4. Anderson may be on the market if the Browns fail to give him the bonus. Not sure what teams think of him. Maybe he lands in St Louis since he's better than Green or in Frisco as a mistake. 5. Cassel should take a back-up job somewhere. Maybe a place like Dallas since the Brad and Brook experiment will still be fresh on Jerry Jones' mind. 6. Losman.. I'm not a fan but perhaps some GM is. Could see New England bringing him in as QBs from division rivals are nice targets. 7. Garcia is at the end of his rope. It's Tampa or nobody. 8. Kitna is just a journeyman, but could find a back-up job still. Not a free agent yet as the Lions have him under contract in hopes of trading him. Hope Martz doesn't have the Niners bring him in. Potential QB openings: 1. Kansas City - doubt they bring back Huard and send Croyle to the end of the bench. KC has a long history of bringing in retreads instead of drafting a high QB rookie. They really should take a top prospect IMO since the team is so young. 2. Minnesota - mentioned Grossman above. TJack stays on as a back-up. 3. San Francisco - mentioned Smith above. I don't think Hill or O'Sully are the answer, so it's an opening worth pursuing. Maybe a mistake like Anderson or Kitna. 4. Detroit - the Culpepper experiment. I think they gave him a verbal agreement for next year. Gives them time to see if Stanton has anything and to draft another future hopeful. 5. Cleveland - assuming they don't pay Anderson the roster bonus. Doesn't really matter who as the job is Quinn's. Maybe a guy like Kitna. 6. Seattle - Hass is getting old and the back-ups aren't impressive. Mora Jr may bring in "his" guy. Pray it's not Vick. A candidate for a rookie landing spot. 7. - New England - mentioned Losman above. 8. Arizona - if they let Warner walk. Don't think they do. Hope Leinart is ready if it comes to that. 9. Dallas - mentioned Cassel above. 10. Chicago - once Grossman walks. I think they sign Orton long term and bring in a lower round rookie to groom. 11. Jets - You know, if Favre actually retires. Clemens will inherit the job and a veteran will come in as a back-up. 12. Tennessee - Sticking with Young and Collins. 13. Oakland - they really need a veteran back-up that doesn't completely suck. Another landing spot for Kitna as he's had a history of opening doors for bad teams with young QBs (Cincy, Detroit, etc). 14. St Louis - Bulger isn't looking too healthy, though I think it's more of a OL problem. They should definitely invest in a rookie as Green shouldn't be playing anymore. 15. Tampa Bay - Gruden loves bringing in QBs so this is a wildcard. Even if they have Josh Johnson and Griese, it's no guarantee they are the QB of the moment. Nearly half the league may have an opening. Plenty of movement. Your thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Great post. As far as QB in Minny, I'd see Anderson as a more likely bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackass Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Good post to put it out there. Disagree on: Grossman (can't see how a team could make him a starter) Clemens. Haven't heard anything recently but don't think they're that high on him. If Cassell leaves NE it would be to at least compete to be a starter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffraff Posted November 16, 2008 Author Share Posted November 16, 2008 (edited) Disagree on:If Cassell leaves NE it would be to at least compete to be a starter Fair enough, but he'd have an equal chance at another ring with either team. Jerry Jones pays much better for clipboard holding. And I think New England will just elevate O'Connell instead of paying Cassel good money. Edited November 16, 2008 by Riffraff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTSuper7 Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Fair enough, but he'd have an equal chance at another ring with either team. Jerry Jones pays much better for clipboard holding. And I think New England will just elevate O'Connell instead of paying Cassel good money. I wouldn't be surprised if NE put the franchise tag on Cassel for next year since there is some concern as to how soon Brady will be ready to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 I wouldn't be surprised if NE put the franchise tag on Cassel for next year since there is some concern as to how soon Brady will be ready to play. Wow. Would they pay that kind on money? Transition tag is what a 1st and 3rd round pick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Wow. Would they pay that kind on money? Transition tag is what a 1st and 3rd round pick? A transition tag only gives a team the right to match a contract offer. There is no compensation if the contract is not matched. A franchise tag would be 2 firsts if a contract is not matched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffraff Posted November 16, 2008 Author Share Posted November 16, 2008 I see that Miami isn't on that list. Does that mean y'all think they're happy with Pennington and wanna see what Henne can do in a few years? Yup. Parcells is a guy that tends to stick with "his" veterans. He brought Penny in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffraff Posted November 16, 2008 Author Share Posted November 16, 2008 I wouldn't be surprised if NE put the franchise tag on Cassel for next year since there is some concern as to how soon Brady will be ready to play. Franchise = average of top 5 salaries for the position. I don't see New England paying that pricetag. It's probably the only way they keep him, but I don't see it being a financially sound decision. This is not the Raiders, Cowboys, or Redskins that throw money at problem areas and hope the dollars fill the void. It's not like Cassel is playing at a pro-bowl level (except last week). 10 TD, 7 INT, 2 FUM is just average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outshined Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Minnesota: Gus stays on for another year and the Vikings draft a QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Minnesota: Gus stays on for another year and the Vikings draft a QB. Does that leave Jackson a career backup? I'm not sure if Chili has given up on him yet. I know pretty much everyone else has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackass Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Does that leave Jackson a career backup? I'm not sure if Chili has given up on him yet. I know pretty much everyone else has. See Carter, Quincy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doors27 Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Keep in mind if the Eagles continue their implosion - that could be it for McNabb in Philadelphia... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outshined Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Does that leave Jackson a career backup? I'm not sure if Chili has given up on him yet. I know pretty much everyone else has. It's really hard to tell. He might get a chance next year to win the starting job or I could see him playing out his contract with the Vikes as a backup and then catching on with another team as a free agent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xMRogers Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 I can't remember a franchised qb - between the ridiculous money you'd be talking (gotta think in the 8 to 10M range), and that a lot of time franchising leaves a slightly bad taste in the mouth and that's fine for say a d-linemen, but not so much for your qb....has there been any franchised QB's the last few years? And no way does NE franchise Cassel - they'll make a good offer, and it's really all about how much money he makes for himself the rest of the year to how that offer stacks up, but i'd think he wants to start, so NE isn't the place to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffraff Posted November 16, 2008 Author Share Posted November 16, 2008 has there been any franchised QB's the last few years? Brees by the Chargers. He was a pro-bowler that year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdrudge Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 4. Detroit - the Culpepper experiment. I think they gave him a verbal agreement for next year. Gives them time to see if Stanton has anything and to draft another future hopeful.Didn't Detroit sign Culpepper to a 2 year deal? I know it was reported that way, but I never saw the confirmed final terms or if the second year was just an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goopster24 Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Cassel would leave for a starting spot. There is no way he goes to the Cowboys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 If Cassell leaves NE it would be to at least compete to be a starter Hasn't Cassell been a career backup? I can't remember a non-starting college QB even playing a down in the NFL (that could just be me though). I assume he would be fairly content to get a solid offer from a team with talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 I tell you what, I'm completely behind the Chiefs sticking with Thigpen. He's earned it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easy n Dirty Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 I tell you what, I'm completely behind the Chiefs sticking with Thigpen. He's earned it. I would think the Chiefs stick with Thigpen for sure, he's shown more than either Huard or Croyle. I'm interested to see what tennessee does - Collins supposedly had misgivings each of the past two offseasons about returning to the nFL as a backup - now that he's had the success that he has, and I believe he's a free agent at the end of this season, he'll likely insist on going somewhere where he is the clear cut starter going into camp? And maybe he would be just that at Tennessee, not sure where the organization is right now on Young. Kind of an interesting situation there. What ever happened to Chris Simms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 (edited) And maybe he would be just that at Tennessee, not sure where the organization is right now on Young. Kind of an interesting situation there. What ever happened to Chris Simms? Simms is currently with Tennessee. Edited November 17, 2008 by Big John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 2. Minnesota - mentioned Grossman above. TJack stays on as a back-up. My prayers would be answered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mroban Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Good post to put it out there. Disagree on: Grossman (can't see how a team could make him a starter) Clemens. Haven't heard anything recently but don't think they're that high on him. If Cassell leaves NE it would be to at least compete to be a starter If Favre retires the Jets wont have many options but I could see them pursuing Anderson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffraff Posted November 27, 2008 Author Share Posted November 27, 2008 McNabb - If released, Minny becomes top candidate with the Childress factor. Gruden will probably pursue him as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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