Grits and Shins Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Team A gives Willie Parker Derrick Mason Team B gives Brian Westbrook What am I missing 1) Willie Parker has turf toe and will miss his 2nd week in a row, probably will miss more 2) Mendenhall had a great coming out party in his first start this year that may have put FWP out of a job or at a minimum cut into his carries 3) Pittsburgh has not had their off week yet, Philadelphia is just coming off theirs So is Derrick Mason the thing that makes this trade? Mason's last two weeks have been pretty good. The team getting Mason has these RBs/WRs LMcCoy RRice LWashington AJohnson JCotchery HWard PCrayton Is Westbrook hurt more than I know that he will be missing games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdrudge Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 I don't see a problem with it. Looking at just Westbrook and FWP, their average game stats are fairly comparable. Both are also being challenged by younger players and both missed some time for injuries. Both also seem to have taken a step back from what their fantasy value was the past few years. FWP injury seems to be the worse between the two as it may linger for some time but I think he'll continue to play. It's obviously a risk... Clayton I think also just just adds a little more depth to the WR corp. I wouldn't call it the icing of the trade, but it sweetens it up a little more because of the risk with FWP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 I give that trade a 4.823918329581395819357193561365794829. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duchess Jack Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 seems fair enough to me. Westbrook has his own questions. Willie has done poorly and bouce back in the past and Mason has been on a tear in the last couple weeks. I don't know if I'd make the trade - but I have no problem with it at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cre8tiff Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 They are clearly trading for the players that will get them the most points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTed46 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 seems fair enough to me. Westbrook has his own questions. Willie has done poorly and bouce back in the past and Mason has been on a tear in the last couple weeks. I don't know if I'd make the trade - but I have no problem with it at all. +1 This would raise ZERO questions in my book Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelman Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 seems fair to me as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 seems fair to me as well +1 Seems like Team B is getting the only player without injury concerns, though Westbrook is indeed healthy *at the moment*. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepinmofo Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Why is it any concern? I mean, if it were something like Westbrook for Jamarcus Russell, yeah, that would be questionable, but this is not something anyone should be concerned with. Even someone as great as you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pig devilz Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 3 injury prone players. turf toe+ and back for ankles+ Team B seems to be getting the short end of the stick, tho Westy could see about 15 carries this week who knows the week after, the week after, etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 they obviously value these players differently than you do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTed46 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 1.3949023040 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustOfBeenDrunk Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 they obviously value these players differently than you do Yes - Value in the eyes of the beholder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 0ne Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Clearly collusion. Veto the trade and fire the owners. I think Henry Muto is looking for leagues so he could take 1 spot. And that Mr. Hammock dude seems pretty knowledgeable as well. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medal of Honor Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 I think the trade is fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted October 8, 2009 Author Share Posted October 8, 2009 I'm the commissioner and I pushed the trade through as soon as team B cleared a roster spot for the extra player - we don't have trade vetoes in our league. So this is not a question about fair or unfair ... I don't care about that. No my real question was why in the heck would team B make that trade (I can see why team A makes the trade)? I was wondering if I was missing something that was causing me to value Westbrook or Mason too low? While Westbrook is always an injury risk he is just coming off a bye week, played going into the bye week and doesn't have a current injury ... FWP is currently injured with one of the worst injuries a RB/WR can have - turf toe. Additionally Mendenhall may have further reduced FWP's value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdrudge Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 While Westbrook is always an injury risk he is just coming off a bye week, played going into the bye week and doesn't have a current injury ...Westbrook was inactive week 3 prior to the bye with a ankle injury on the same foot he had surgery on in the offseason. I think there is definite potential for further issues throughout the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted October 8, 2009 Author Share Posted October 8, 2009 Westbrook was inactive week 3 prior to the bye with a ankle injury on the same foot he had surgery on in the offseason. I think there is definite potential for further issues throughout the season. Ah ... I did miss that. I probably still don't make the trade if I'm owner B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theprofessor Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 I'm the commissioner and I pushed the trade through as soon as team B cleared a roster spot for the extra player - we don't have trade vetoes in our league. So this is not a question about fair or unfair ... I don't care about that. No my real question was why in the heck would team B make that trade (I can see why team A makes the trade)? I was wondering if I was missing something that was causing me to value Westbrook or Mason too low? While Westbrook is always an injury risk he is just coming off a bye week, played going into the bye week and doesn't have a current injury ... FWP is currently injured with one of the worst injuries a RB/WR can have - turf toe. Additionally Mendenhall may have further reduced FWP's value. Clearly ... 6,4389450132 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 I'm the commissioner and I pushed the trade through as soon as team B cleared a roster spot for the extra player - we don't have trade vetoes in our league. So this is not a question about fair or unfair ... I don't care about that. No my real question was why in the heck would team B make that trade (I can see why team A makes the trade)? I was wondering if I was missing something that was causing me to value Westbrook or Mason too low? While Westbrook is always an injury risk he is just coming off a bye week, played going into the bye week and doesn't have a current injury ... FWP is currently injured with one of the worst injuries a RB/WR can have - turf toe. Additionally Mendenhall may have further reduced FWP's value. Apparently, you have never endured the frustration and sheer agony of being a Westbrook owner. You greatly overestimate his trade value. Any past Westbrook owner here will attest to his failures to come through in the clutch, persistent injury problems and overall underachievement. Any Westbrook owner who has tried to shop him will also tell you that many owners wouldn't give up a beer and a hotdog let alone anything of value for him. Westbrook is the riskiest #1 back a team can get. My guess is that this Westbrook owner has had enough of him and took the best deal he could ge to extricate himself from Westbrook purgatory. There is absolutely no problem at all with this trade. None. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Apparently, you have never endured the frustration and sheer agony of being a Westbrook owner. You greatly overestimate his trade value. Any past Westbrook owner here will attest to his failures to come through in the clutch, persistent injury problems and overall underachievement. Any Westbrook owner who has tried to shop him will also tell you that many owners wouldn't give up a beer and a hotdog let alone anything of value for him. Westbrook is the riskiest #1 back a team can get. My guess is that this Westbrook owner has had enough of him and took the best deal he could ge to extricate himself from Westbrook purgatory. There is absolutely no problem at all with this trade. None. I, too, was a frustrated Westbrook owner in a keeper but was giddy as hell earlier this week when I opened up a trade offer and was being offered Marion Barber for Westbrook straight up. I don't think I've ever hit the accept button so quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted October 15, 2009 Author Share Posted October 15, 2009 Well after 1 week: Westbrook - 10.50 points Parker - 0.00 points Mason - 0.00 points DMD has projections for these players for week 6: Westbrook - 70 yards, 1 TD Parker - 0.00 yards, 0 TDs Mason - 40 yards, 1 TD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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