Savage Beatings Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 I don't remember anyone touting Brown as the Savior of the Republican Party. His election to the Kennedy seat in one of the bluest States in the Union was more of a clarion call to the current Administration that more people than not are rejecting the path that they are forcing upon us. Absolutely conservatives here (including myself) were excited and energized by his election, but clearly not because they thought he was the next GOP Messiah. And FWIW, I'm not any less excited about that political reality just because Brown wants to vote for a Jobs Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 From the locked Brown thread earleir this year: He's still a Northeastern Repub. How fervent will the love affair be in a year from now after he frequently breaks ranks with the party line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westvirginia Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 From the locked Brown thread earleir this year: And that shows one of the righties indicating Brown was a savior, where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 (edited) From the locked Brown thread earleir this year: Guess my time frame was little off. Edited February 23, 2010 by bushwacked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 And that shows one of the righties indicating Brown was a savior, where? I think it was more delight at Democrat discomfiture than anything else. FWIW, I kinda like the Brown guy. Right now he is so newly minted that he still relates to Joe and Jill American. Sure, he's a Republican but so what? The problem is how long it will take for him to be rotted by Washington and the siren voices of privileged detachment. Some have the nads to quit after only one term when they see how foul the whole system is. Anyone staying gets gradually subsumed into the machine - assimilated into the Borg. How long will Brown resist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 I don't remember anyone touting Brown as the Savior of the Republican Party. His election to the Kennedy seat in one of the bluest States in the Union was more of a clarion call to the current Administration that more people than not are rejecting the path that they are forcing upon us. Absolutely conservatives here (including myself) were excited and energized by his election, but clearly not because they thought he was the next GOP Messiah. And FWIW, I'm not any less excited about that political reality just because Brown wants to vote for a Jobs Bill. Yeah, i don't get why Massachussettes voters who already have universal healthcare would want to pay more taxes to bring universal healthcare that they already have. Obviously a backlash against universal healthcare. What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 I think it was more delight at Democrat discomfiture than anything else. FWIW, I kinda like the Brown guy. Right now he is so newly minted that he still relates to Joe and Jill American. Sure, he's a Republican but so what? The problem is how long it will take for him to be rotted by Washington and the siren voices of privileged detachment. Some have the nads to quit after only one term when they see how foul the whole system is. Anyone staying gets gradually subsumed into the machine - assimilated into the Borg. How long will Brown resist? I think he's a slick empty suit typical politician myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 And that shows one of the righties indicating Brown was a savior, where? Um, go back and read the orgiinal Brown thread from when he was elected. There were plenty of posts saying this was the beginning of the end for the Dems, based on Brown winning a traditionally blue state. Maybe ask DMarc why his post in that thread consisted of nothing but Oddly, I don't see that same simile coming from anywhere on the right in this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Um, go back and read the orgiinal Brown thread from when he was elected. There were plenty of posts saying this was the beginning of the end for the Dems, based on Brown winning a traditionally blue state. Maybe ask DMarc why his post in that thread consisted of nothing but Oddly, I don't see that same simile coming from anywhere on the right in this thread I don't think this shows him as being a savior, but an indicator of things to come. I think it shows the frustration that even some liberals have with the Dems in Washington. I don't think anyone was comparing the guy to Reagan or even Newt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 I think he's a slick empty suit typical politician myself. Hmmmm. Interesting. I admit I haven't exactly been studying him intensely but some of his utterances seemed to me to be rooted in this universe instead of the bizarro universe more "experienced" politicians inhabit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Hmmmm. Interesting. I admit I haven't exactly been studying him intensely but some of his utterances seemed to me to be rooted in this universe instead of the bizarro universe more "experienced" politicians inhabit. Maybe i'm judging him too harshly on his naked photo shoot and his awww shucks country truck campaigning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 (edited) Um, go back and read the orgiinal Brown thread from when he was elected. There were plenty of posts saying this was the beginning of the end for the Dems, based on Brown winning a traditionally blue state. Maybe ask DMarc why his post in that thread consisted of nothing but Oddly, I don't see that same simile coming from anywhere on the right in this thread u love cherry picking, dont you? who also said this in that thread? very important that the republicans realize this was not an endorsement of the republicans but a rejection of incumbents believe me, i hate all politicians. and those that want to take more of whats mine, i hate more. thus the dancing bananas. Edited February 23, 2010 by dmarc117 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Yeah, i don't get why Massachussettes voters who already have universal healthcare would want to pay more taxes to bring universal healthcare that they already have. Obviously a backlash against universal healthcare. What? Whatever allows you to sleep at night Grunge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westvirginia Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Um, go back and read the orgiinal Brown thread from when he was elected. There were plenty of posts saying this was the beginning of the end for the Dems, based on Brown winning a traditionally blue state. Maybe ask DMarc why his post in that thread consisted of nothing but Oddly, I don't see that same simile coming from anywhere on the right in this thread Again, I see where Brown beats the alternative, and the celebration was about the HC bill more than anything. It's like the ol' mixed feelings things. How did you react when your wife said your penis was bigger than mine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
driveby Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 At the National Review, Lisa Schiffren wrote off Brown’s votes as “politics,” but not the worst kind. “It isn't just that he comes from blue, blue Massachusetts, where voters have certain expectations,” Schiffren wrote on The Corner blog. “I am guessing that Scott Brown believes that he cannot simply join the (highly effective and admirable) ‘no’ chorus of Republicans, lest he be labeled a pure obstructionist and not an independent kind of guy who's just looking for effective solutions to get the working men and women of Massachusetts back to work. “ Schiffren said it’s better for Brown to get “compromiser” votes “out of the way with a relatively unimportant jobs bill rather than serious bailout or tax bill.” “Cynical?” she asked. "’Calculated’ is a better word. And let's remember that our hero is, after all, a career politician.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_gop_liars Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Right And you think your new hero is a Republican. Soon his middle name will be RINO. But hey he's cute and supposedly likes girls, this is the new republican party. From the locked Brown thread earleir this year: That thread is awesome. I'm a stinking genius. Right And you think your new hero is a Republican. Soon his middle name will be RINO. But hey he's cute and supposedly likes girls, this is the new republican party. pickle.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 relatively unimportant jobs bill Really? Why filibuster it then? Or is this a new definition of "relatively unimportant"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Filibuster EVERYTHING. NONONONONONONONONO NONONONONONONONONO NONONONONONONONONO NONONONONONONONONO NO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Really? Why filibuster it then? Or is this a new definition of "relatively unimportant"? You quoted it yourself: Most other Republicans voted in favor of the filibuster because of strong-arm tactics by Democratic Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada. The bill is likely to enjoy far broader GOP support on Wednesday when it's put to an up-or-down vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 I don't think this shows him as being a savior, but an indicator of things to come. I think it shows the frustration that even some liberals have with the Dems in Washington. I don't think anyone was comparing the guy to Reagan or even Newt. Or it showed that the MA voters didn't like the crap candidate the Dems lazily trotted out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Or it showed that the MA voters didn't like the crap candidate the Dems lazily trotted out. it is just a coincidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiegie Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 We need more congresspeople that vote what is wanted by the people, not what is politically expedient. uh, doing what people want is typically the politically expedient thing to do it is not, however, often the best thing to do (because most people are stupid and ignorantly want the government to do things that will actually make things worse off in the long run) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiegie Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 At the National Review, Lisa Schiffren wrote off Brown’s votes as “politics,” but not the worst kind. “It isn't just that he comes from blue, blue Massachusetts, where voters have certain expectations,” Schiffren wrote on The Corner blog. “I am guessing that Scott Brown believes that he cannot simply join the (highly effective and admirable) ‘no’ chorus of Republicans, lest he be labeled a pure obstructionist and not an independent kind of guy who's just looking for effective solutions to get the working men and women of Massachusetts back to work. “ Schiffren said it’s better for Brown to get “compromiser” votes “out of the way with a relatively unimportant jobs bill rather than serious bailout or tax bill.” “Cynical?” she asked. "’Calculated’ is a better word. And let's remember that our hero is, after all, a career politician.” that sounds about right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 uh, doing what people want is typically the politically expedient thing to do it is not, however, often the best thing to do (because most people are stupid and ignorantly want the government to do things that will actually make things worse off in the long run) SS, Medicare, welfare, etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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