BeeR Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I look at this as the First Lady's project Oh now this makes more sense. First ladies have to have a "pet project" yknow. I don't get fed govt involved here either, really. fn waste of their time/money. Let states handle it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lkirc Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Oh now this makes more sense. First ladies have to have a "pet project" yknow. I don't get fed govt involved here either, really. fn waste of their time/money. Let states handle it. I think helping fat children is an admirable and appropriate project for a First Lady. Fixing health care, a la Hillary, not so much. This issue should have been handled in Congress in a matter of minutes, not turned into a pissing match. We need term limits and a couple new political parties to compete with the rubbish we have now. I am ready to go protest......oh, wait, I have to work! Damn! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I am ready to go protest......oh, wait, I have to work! Must be a "1%"-er . . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitansFan Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Where did you go that didn't have a kitchen? Never heard that. Although I knew some of the Millard schools did have a T Bell or something option in the cafeteria. Pius X in Lincoln. We had a large "commons" area in the basement with a section in the middle where they would serve the food brought in and had vending machines and microwaves, but no kitchen anywhere in the building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 ETA: I went to the US Heart, Lung and Blood Assn. and I'm not obese, just overweight Holy crap though, to be middle of the 'normal weight' at 6' 2 " I would have to weigh 170 lbs. I would be skin and bones. You should completely ignore those tables and charts. They are there to prove an "epidemic" where only a problem exists (clearly a significant number of people are overweight but there is absolutely no chance of most people making the weight those charts have for varying heights). It is a classic tactic of the medical profession to talk up any health issue as much as possible, usually for funding reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 It is a classic tactic of the medical profession to talk up any health issue as much as possible, usually for funding reasons. or in this case, a classic tactic of the political class. it's an epidemic! we must take action and spend hundreds of millions of dollars telling people how to live their lives! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Talking Points Memo takes a less metaphysical tack, and discovers to its outrage that (1) lobbyists for Big Pizza spent more than $5 million lobbying Congress to maintain the status quo, and (2) the reclassification of pizza as a non-vegetable might have helped lower the child obesity rate, which is alarmingly high. When a democratic government begins making laws that harm particular business sectors, they hire lobbyists. If TPM thinks it has solved the problem of faction, it should reveal the solution before skipping right to complaining about its redundancy and assuming we’ve all made the same brilliant political discovery they have. Otherwise, if they’re upset that the problems of faction have infected school lunch lines, they should remember that the only way to get the K Street money out would be to relinquish Congress’s micromanagement of what children eat for lunch. And that brings us to the second point. TPM can’t believe that even though “the CDC estimates about 17 percent — or 12.5 million — of children between the ages of 2 and 19 are obese,” Congress is allowing public schools to continue passing off two tablespoons of salty pizza sauce as a vegetable. But the 17 percent childhood obesity rate is not actually a result of Congressional action. Michelle Obama’s recent healthy eating campaigns admit as much — they’re aimed at parents. Laws always have an effect on the character of citizenry — a fact which the left usually chooses to ignore — and much less frequently on its health. In the case of school lunches, it’s easy to trace the government take-over of lunchtime through parental disregard of nutrition to 17 percent childhood obesity. If you teach parents that their children’s health is not their responsibility, they’ll stop worrying about it, but when your federal bureaucracy can’t keep their 74 million children healthy, you shouldn’t blame Domino’s and Papa John’s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Sacrebleu Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 adapted from a post I made on another forum. here is the menu for my four year old in his public school in france. monday carrot, cabbage, corn, pepper salad w vinaigrette sauté d'agneau (lamb) w a paprika sauce white beans port salut cheese chocolate mousse orange and a cookie for snacktime tuesday beet salad comté and beaufort tart salad plain yoghurt w sugar bannana aplle compote croissant snacktime wednesday leek soup veal in cream sauce carrots and potatos flavoured petit suisse kiwi baguette and a chocolat bar w apple juice snack time thursday hard boiled egg w mayonaise fish filet w lemon sauce spinach in bechamel sauce rice and veggies pont l eveque cheese prunes in syrup pain d'epice and clementines for snacktime friday tomato salad turkey roast au jus cauliflower gratin pilaf wheat fromage blanc w sugar apple pie banana and milk for snacktime. I do beleive that sitting children down to meals that are somewhat challenging is a good way to encourage healthy eating, which is in my opinion part of a child's education (my son went from being a picky eater to eating sushi, snails, and every stinky cheese you can imagine (on average they eat three different types of cheeses every week)) and certainly having everyone eat the same slop helps get rid of pickiness for those who beleive that school is strictly a learning place in the classrooms and want the government out of every other aspect of their children's lives (such as lunchtime) lunch, as has been pointed out, does affect classroom behaviour. Do you object to sports in school? They obvioulsy have nothing to do w learning, but clearly most people in the US would include that as part of their kids' education. I don't know what public school lunches are like in the US, but if they are that terrible....you get what you pay for. Since we are in an era where no one wants to pay taxes, one shouldn' be surprised to not get anything in return (in general the US is fairly consistent: people don't want to pay taxes, and don't expect much in return, in france everyone expects the state to do everything, but no one wants to pay taxes. But that's a debate for another day) I hate the fact that 'personal responsibility' is often code for 'i've got mine, you can stuff it'. Small children do not have a concept of personal responsibility. To punish them for it is sick in my opinion. I know that conceptually some of you tea partiests probably beleive their should be no public schools, but since we as a society do beleive in public education, why not make it as good as possible. Having decent, healthy lunches seems such a no-brainer tp me to be part of that education, but I guess we do not see eye to eye on this issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 I think helping fat children is an admirable and appropriate project for a First Lady. I don't think taking a state-level issue and trying to turn it into a federal one is appropriate. Also I don't think trying to stong-arm schools into only providing "healthy" meals will do much if anything to curb fatties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted November 20, 2011 Author Share Posted November 20, 2011 I don't think taking a state-level issue and trying to turn it into a federal one is appropriate. Public education is typically funded by ton of resources..local,city, county, state, and obviously federal. Their is only one agency that oversees the whole gamet. You people think there is an inevitable horror of Obama's wife promoting healthy food for public lunches. Pretty sure I summarized it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubfoothead Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 or in this case, a classic tactic of the political class. it's an epidemic! we must take action and spend hundreds of millions of dollars telling people how to live their lives! It's not yello cake uranium but there will be about 1.2 million new cases of diabetes diagnosed next year. Interesting freedoms the right holds dear - the right to turn you kid into a diabetic and the right to not provide that diabetic kid with insurance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 You should completely ignore those tables and charts. They are there to prove an "epidemic" where only a problem exists (clearly a significant number of people are overweight but there is absolutely no chance of most people making the weight those charts have for varying heights). It is a classic tactic of the medical profession to talk up any health issue as much as possible, usually for funding reasons. Right. I was at the doctor a few weeks back - my BMI qualifies me as "obese"; the doctor, when I was asking if I should come in yearly, every 6 mos, or what, said "someone in as excellent health as you only needs to come in every 3-4 yrs for a checkup." No mention of BMI or weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
untateve Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Right. I was at the doctor a few weeks back - my BMI qualifies me as "obese"; the doctor, when I was asking if I should come in yearly, every 6 mos, or what, said "someone in as excellent health as you only needs to come in every 3-4 yrs for a checkup." No mention of BMI or weight. Maybe your doctor doesn't like you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Maybe your doctor doesn't like you. Everyone likes me. I have a great personality and a winning smile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
untateve Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Everyone likes me. I have a great personality and a winning smile. I was once fixed up with a girl who had a 'great personality' and a 'winning smile.' She was a troll. She was a nice troll, but a troll all the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holy Roller Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Everyone likes me. I have a great personality and a winning smile. Two valuable considerations, indeed. Add me to your growing list of admirerers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Everyone likes me. I have a great personality and a winning smile. gd74? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 gd74? Forgot about him. Amend to "almost everyone" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furd Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Everyone likes me. I have a great personality and a winning smile. And you do a fine job with the lawn. My house is the envy of the block. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 She was a troll. What's her huddle name? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsfan Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 There are programs for free or reduced-cost lunches for low-income families. and these need to stay. My kids have some friends that probably wouldn't eat lunch (my opinion based on knowing their parents) if it weren't for the school. Sorry to hijack, but even if those kids choose the crappy choice it is probably the best meal they will get in any given day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyGal2011 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 My kids have some friends that probably wouldn't eat lunch if it weren't for the school. Why don't you make them a much healthier and tastier lunch every day of the week instead of making them eat the garbage at the cafeteria? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsfan Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Why don't you make them a much healthier and tastier lunch every day of the week instead of making them eat the garbage at the cafeteria? I may just do that. I bet their parents will be pissed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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