CaptainHook Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 What was up with Moss today? I know he caught the TD, but was caught jogging on passing routes almost all game. Hammy still? The announcers thought it might be his back. If you're hurt, and can't run your routes, shouldn't you let someone else be out there? I don't think you can say, "I'll take Moss at half speed", because we saw that today. It wasn't good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glabra Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 He has a well-documented history of dogging it. But that was when the team was struggling, in yrs past. Now it just doesn't make sense. If you're hurt and can't play, get the heck out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 He was pathetic today. I don't get to see many Vike's games, but when he's on national TV, he usually doesnt dog it the way he did today. If he not hurting, I am amazed that the coaches and his teamates put up with that. If he was hurting that much, he should have taken pine today. I am beginning to think he runs that team, not Tice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorfinn Posted December 25, 2004 Share Posted December 25, 2004 Had to be hurting. He was blocking ok and just seemed to be locked up in the second half... For those who say he should sit...who's going to go in? It's not like Marcus Robinson was doing anything...in a 3 wideout set, is it better to have Campbell in? I don't think so.... The penalties on the final drive killed the vikes and their defense again was a letdown, even with the pick. What TRUE viking fan didn't think with 4th and 4 that they shouldn't go for it...was there any doubt that the vikes defense in a pressure situation would fail? It was over when they punted with under 2 min on the clock. The vikes have to think differently...they need to think like the Colts. They need to score every series to keep loads of pressure on the other team and hope for mistakes. When they try to play conservatively, it ends up poorly in the end in most cases... Oh well... He was pathetic today. I don't get to see many Vike's games, but when he's on national TV, he usually doesnt dog it the way he did today. If he not hurting, I am amazed that the coaches and his teamates put up with that. If he was hurting that much, he should have taken pine today. I am beginning to think he runs that team, not Tice. 630294[/snapback] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted December 25, 2004 Author Share Posted December 25, 2004 I'm sure, Vikings fans would rather have him in there as a decoy, but I'm not sure how much the Packers were biting today. Yeah, I think a healthy Campbell, who could at least run full speed routes might be a better option. I just don't understand Moss being in there EVERY play if he can't even RUN the routes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBalata Posted December 25, 2004 Share Posted December 25, 2004 They showed two freakin' plays where he had guys on 3 sides of him and he really didn't have any where to go, so yea, he didn't bother to sprint somewhere else. The announcers make a big deal out of those two plays and you guys are all over what they said about those two plays. He was sprinting all out a couple plays later when Daunte tried to throw to him when he was double covered and they made the comment that the LB Bennet did a good job of dropping back to help cover him. As far as replacing him with Campbell...that would have been tough to do since he missed the 2nd half with a concussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexgaddis Posted December 25, 2004 Share Posted December 25, 2004 What TRUE viking fan didn't think with 4th and 4 that they shouldn't go for it...was there any doubt that the vikes defense in a pressure situation would fail? It was over when they punted with under 2 min on the clock. Couldn't have said it better myself...that big run that was called back because of holding was the end of the game IMO...it was the second penalty in a row and having a 1st and 25 I just knew they would have to punt it and any more than 5 seconds on the clock spelled doom...It's so *** frustrating when you see it unfolding and all you can do is watch it and take it...I know the Vikes weren't a Superbowl contender and they will still make the playoffs but c'mon, two minutes left in a tie game at home with the championship on the line and all you can do is go backwards???? PATHETIC... Never thought I'd say this but congrats Packers, you deserved to win the division this year... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted December 25, 2004 Author Share Posted December 25, 2004 (edited) They showed two freakin' plays where he had guys on 3 sides of him and he really didn't have any where to go, so yea, he didn't bother to sprint somewhere else. The announcers make a big deal out of those two plays and you guys are all over what they said about those two plays.630415[/snapback] It was more than just 2 plays, and several times he was jogging straight off the line before any help arrived. I think the fact that he caught only 2 balls says it all. . . Edited December 25, 2004 by CaptainHook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumpin Johnies Posted December 25, 2004 Share Posted December 25, 2004 I wish that I had picked Manning over Moss. I will need Rod and Jimmy Smith to pick up the slack this weekend. Moss has been a real dissappointment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1badfish Posted December 25, 2004 Share Posted December 25, 2004 I don't think it's Moss' fault. Burleson also only had two catches. I think that team needs a coaching overhaul. For a team with so much talent, they sure do suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted December 25, 2004 Share Posted December 25, 2004 I'd still rather have him on my roster than any Indy receiver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Row Posted December 25, 2004 Share Posted December 25, 2004 He's crap & a punk. 2nd yr on my roster & he was crap this time as last. I thought he would be better & try harder this yr...he's not & he didn't. I should have traded his lame ass when I had the chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted December 25, 2004 Share Posted December 25, 2004 (edited) He was blocking ok 630314[/snapback] Unfortunately Randy wasn't blocking OK. His stupid offensive penalty killed at least one big play for the Vikings and probably ended up costing them, at the very least, 3. (13:15) D.Culpepper pass to N.Burleson pushed ob at GB 20 for 22 yards (N.Barnett). PENALTY on MIN-R.Moss, Offensive Pass Interference, 10 yards, enforced at GB 42 - No Play. That one cost Vikes 22 yards & a 1st and 10 at the Green bay 20. Vikes eventually had to punt on that series, instead of possibly getting at least three. Way to go Moss Edited December 25, 2004 by Big Score 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted December 25, 2004 Share Posted December 25, 2004 I don't think it's Moss' fault. Burleson also only had two catches. 630516[/snapback] Actually Burleson would've had three catches for 132 yards except for dumb dumb Moss. (13:15) D.Culpepper pass to N.Burleson pushed ob at GB 20 for 22 yards (N.Barnett). PENALTY on MIN-R.Moss, Offensive Pass Interference, 10 yards, enforced at GB 42 - No Play Burleson would've also had another 6 yards rushing except for the other dumb dumb Minny WR. (8:06) N.Burleson left end to GB 32 for 6 yards (J.Thomas). PENALTY on MIN-M.Robinson, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at GB 32. Niether of those penalties were necessary. If Robinson would've actually blocked, like Hines Ward does, he wouldn't have had the stupid penalty. Instead, the namby pamby grabbed the Defenders shirt and got flagged for the hold. Moss and his penalty was even worse. It happened away from the play and was completely unnecessary. Drive killer right there. Probably cost the Vikes at least three, considering Burleson's catch would've gotten them to the Green Bay 20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesdpie Posted December 25, 2004 Share Posted December 25, 2004 Moss pretty much blew my oppurtunity to win my championship game this week, what a looser, if you're hurt don't play, what the fudge! he looked like a piece of sh!T! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted December 26, 2004 Author Share Posted December 26, 2004 I'd still rather have him on my roster than any Indy receiver 630555[/snapback] Moss: 44 catches 701 yards 12 TD (officially missed 3 games, & parts of 3 others) or Harrison: 75 catches 969 yards 14 TD (no missed games) Wayne: 71 catches 1051 yards 11 TD (no missed games) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted December 26, 2004 Share Posted December 26, 2004 (edited) Moss: 44 catches 701 yards 12 TD (officially missed 3 games, & parts of 3 others) or Harrison: 75 catches 969 yards 14 TD (no missed games) Wayne: 71 catches 1051 yards 11 TD (no missed games) 631491[/snapback] Pretty close stats for them playing 6 more full games. Edited December 26, 2004 by WaterMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted December 26, 2004 Author Share Posted December 26, 2004 (edited) Pretty close stats for them playing 6 more full games. 631496[/snapback] 31 catches 268 yards and 2 TD's are close? Colts haven't played today, so it's 5 games. And Randy played a half of 3 of those games. Edited December 26, 2004 by CaptainHook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted December 26, 2004 Share Posted December 26, 2004 31 catches 268 yards and 2 TD's are close? Colts haven't played today, so it's 5 games. And Randy played a half of 3 of those games. 631501[/snapback] Besides the catches, that's 1 good game for Moss and then an ok game to equal the yards and TDs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted December 26, 2004 Share Posted December 26, 2004 (edited) Randy played a half of 3 of those games. 631501[/snapback] And was an idiot for doing so. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To be honest, at the beginning of the year when drafting my team, if I had a draft slot that would've allowed me to pick either Moss or Harrison, I would've flipped a coin and been happy with whichever one I would've gotten. Now in hindsight, Harrison is obviously the better WR to have this year. But who can predict injuries? Edited December 26, 2004 by Big Score 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted December 26, 2004 Author Share Posted December 26, 2004 Besides the catches, that's 1 good game for Moss and then an ok game to equal the yards and TDs. 631507[/snapback] WaterMan defending one of the players he likes! Yeah, besides the catches. Randy Moss is great, no doubt. But to say you'd rather have him this year, is what I disagreed with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted December 26, 2004 Share Posted December 26, 2004 WaterMan defending one of the players he likes! Yeah, besides the catches. Randy Moss is great, no doubt. But to say you'd rather have him this year, is what I disagreed with. 631524[/snapback] at the Draft, I had a choice: Moss or Harrison. I went with Moss and would do so again next season... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted December 26, 2004 Share Posted December 26, 2004 WaterMan defending one of the players he likes! Yeah, besides the catches. 631524[/snapback] Ah so Mason with 88 catches is better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted December 26, 2004 Author Share Posted December 26, 2004 Ah so Mason with 88 catches is better? 631537[/snapback] Boy, you're reaching now! Harrison and Wayne were better fantasy receivers than Moss THIS year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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