max Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 we'll see! Thats why he wants to be traded? 896851[/snapback] I agree with Captain that he wont be in Seattle next season. He will be an Unrestricted free agent and Seattle can not franchise him. He will stick it out this year and then test the FA market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk37 Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 If the 'Hawks wanted to sign him to a long term deal, they'd have done it already. Alexander is upset they won't give him a long term deal, so they compromised. He signs a one year deal, they agree not to franchise him again next year. That way he can become a FA. Looks like you might have to get a new favorite player next year. Don't be naive. 896854[/snapback] didnt have the cap room to sign him to a long term deal. Why cant you understand that we couldnt afford that. He is obviously making sure he gets resined and doesnt get traded or franchised tagged so they will resign him next year to a long term deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goopster24 Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 Alexander is a stud. If I get the numbe 1 pick in my draft, I am going to strongly consider drafting him first. He is def gonna be motivated (yes he was for some time now) but I agree with what others are saying: good RB's getting huge paydays is rare now. I'm expecting a huge year out of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 I think they lose the right to Franchise another player for the life of the contract, which I guess is one year. 896487[/snapback] You are correct in the fact that they lose the Franchise tag for the life of the contract. As Alexander never signed his tender, I don't believe that will have an effect. Even if it does, the contract is for his year only, so Seattle will have it's tag again next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 didnt have the cap room to sign him to a long term deal. Why cant you understand that we couldnt afford that. He is obviously making sure he gets resined and doesnt get traded or franchised tagged so they will resign him next year to a long term deal. 896861[/snapback] I understand what you are saying here but I think you should also realize that with Alexander becoming a unrestricted FA next year that there is also an equal chance that he will sign with another team. Only time will tell what will actually happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunysteelfly76 Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 The contract, which is totally guaranteed, also precludes the Seahawks from trading the five-year veteran during the season without his approval.link 896587[/snapback] I didnt think this happened in the NFL. This sounds more like a baseball deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 Personally, I think it stinks for the Hawks. He walks next year and the Hawks get nothing, outside of another disspointing season in which the cry baby posts huge stats? They are not a Superbowl contender so I why not gamble more with the negotiation? If he followed through on his threat and sat the season, let him ruin his own future while the Hawks move on. Kerry Carter can move the chains. Looking at the glass half full, I suppose it's good for fantasy football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 I didnt think this happened in the NFL. This sounds more like a baseball deal. 897080[/snapback] all franchise tenders are guaranteed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1stimer Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 we'll see! Thats why he wants to be traded? 896851[/snapback] He probably doesn't want to be traded because then he is assured of not going to a team where he could potentially get stuck at or just traded again or something. He would rather have a "free-out" at the end of the year which means a pretty healthy signing bonus during the off-season when free agent signings begin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 I believe the team he could be traded to could franchise him as well. It's pretty obvious he wants to be an unrestricted free agent after this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexgaddis Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 and the keeper league squad gets that much stronger... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 have 2 in one league and now i know who im picking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE SIX KINGS Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 (edited) didnt have the cap room to sign him to a long term deal. Why cant you understand that we couldnt afford that. He is obviously making sure he gets resined and doesnt get traded or franchised tagged so they will resign him next year to a long term deal. 896861[/snapback] But there is a fairly monumental caveat included in the contract: The deal stipulates that the Seahawks cannot designate Alexander a franchise player again at the end of the 2005 season. So unless the two sides reach a deal on an extension, which could be difficult given the acrimony that built up over the spring, Alexander would be an unrestricted free agent next spring and free to leave. Certainly, some advantage in Tuesday's deal goes to Alexander, who almost certainly will enter the open market after the 2005 season. But even unrestricted tailbacks have found it difficult of late to secure lucrative long-term contracts. The Seahawks will have a year to locate, or develop, a viable replacement to the standout back. Sounds like to me he is gone after this year. Edited July 27, 2005 by THE SIX KINGS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1stimer Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 Yet another reason the Hawks may not be in such a hurry to show SA the money next year ... here is the list of RB's posted by Skylive in another thread who are becoming free agents next year ... RB Shaun Alexander Seahawks 27 RB Darian Barnes Cowboys 25 RB Fred Beasley 49ers 30 RB Michael Bennett Vikings 26 RB Rock Cartwright Redskins 25 RB Jesse Chatman Chargers 25 RB Jameel Cook Buccaneers 26 RB Najeh Davenport Packers 26 RB Domanick Davis Texans 24 RB Ron Dayne Broncos 27 RB Heath Evans Dolphins 26 RB Tony Fisher Packers 25 RB DeShaun Foster Panthers 25 RB Ahman Green Packers 28 RB Lamar Gordon Dolphins 25 RB Verron Haynes Steelers 26 RB William Henderson Packers 34 RB Robert Holcombe Chiefs 29 RB Edgerrin James Colts 26 RB Jeremi Johnson Bengals 24 RB Rudi Johnson Bengals 25 RB Jamal Lewis Ravens 25 RB Deuce McAllister Saints 26 RB Travis Minor Dolphins 25 RB Maurice Morris Seahawks 25 RB Harold Morrow Cardinals 32 RB James Mungro Colts 27 RB Lorenzo Neal Chargers 34 RB Patrick Pass Patriots 27 RB Jon Ritchie Eagles 30 RB Antowain Smith Saints 33 RB Mack Strong Seahawks 33 RB Chester Taylor Ravens 25 RB Anthony Thomas Bears 27 RB Kenny Watson Bengals 27 RB Jonathan Wells Texans 25 RB Brian Westbrook Eagles 25 RB Moe Williams Vikings 30 There is certainly other talent avaliable out there ... not to mention the couple week Denver starter that Shenanigans will probably try to unload at the end of the season. If you had to choose between SA and say McAllister for almost half as much ... as an owner who would you go with. Seems pretty easy to me. They will have many choices if they stay on the ball. Who is the better runner? ... Should they keep SA? ... I guess we'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soloArtist Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 QUOTE(sunysteelfly76 @ 7/27/05 08:50am) "I didnt think this happened in the NFL. This sounds more like a baseball deal." all franchise tenders are guaranteed 897176[/snapback] This wasn't a franchise tender. however, it was a one year deal, and one year deals are guaranteed. after a certain date, the current year's salary is guaranteed, hence one year deals are technically guaranteed. another way to make a contract guaranteed is to offer it all as a bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk37 Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 He belongs with the Hawks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1stimer Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 He belongs with the Hawks 897887[/snapback] In today's sports for lots of players, that don't mean squat! Michael Jordan belonged with the Bulls... Wayne Gretzky belonged with the Oilers... Jerry Rice belonged with the 49ers... etc... etc... etc... And no, I am not saying Alexander has impacted his sport as much as the above ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk37 Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 But there is a fairly monumental caveat included in the contract: The deal stipulates that the Seahawks cannot designate Alexander a franchise player again at the end of the 2005 season. So unless the two sides reach a deal on an extension, which could be difficult given the acrimony that built up over the spring, Alexander would be an unrestricted free agent next spring and free to leave. Certainly, some advantage in Tuesday's deal goes to Alexander, who almost certainly will enter the open market after the 2005 season. But even unrestricted tailbacks have found it difficult of late to secure lucrative long-term contracts. The Seahawks will have a year to locate, or develop, a viable replacement to the standout back. Sounds like to me he is gone after this year. 897238[/snapback] In order for the Seahawks to coax Alexander into coming to camp, they reached a compromise on the following: 1) They will not slap the same franchise tag on him next season 2) They will negotiate in EARNEST on a long-term contract 3) They will not trade him during the season without his permission he'll be back. He obviously wants to be. http://www.seahawks.com/ArDisplay.aspx?ID=5641&SecID=317 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE SIX KINGS Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 For your sake kid, I hope he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godtomsatan Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 He did not sign the tender. He signed a one year contract. Re-read the original post. . . 896585[/snapback] My bad on the interpretation of the $6.32 figure. I see/hear most observers in these parts (Seattle) think a long-termer is still in the works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godtomsatan Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 In today's sports for lots of players, that don't mean squat! 897898[/snapback] Athletes from all generations have been moving around from team to team as hired guns. Today's players aren't any more selfish or financially motivated than their counterparts from earlier generations going back to the beginning of professional sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 How can Rudi Johnson be a free agent?? Didn't he just sign a new deal recently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 QUOTE(sunysteelfly76 @ 7/27/05 08:50am)"I didnt think this happened in the NFL. This sounds more like a baseball deal." This wasn't a franchise tender. however, it was a one year deal, and one year deals are guaranteed. after a certain date, the current year's salary is guaranteed, hence one year deals are technically guaranteed. another way to make a contract guaranteed is to offer it all as a bonus. 897751[/snapback] I was just pointing out that football does have some guaranteed deals. The franchise tender is one of them. Obviously, SA would demand that the one year deal he just signed would too. Contracts are guaranteed once you make the final roster cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawks21 Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 How come I'm always so late to the fun ones!?!? This is a definite win-win. Its incredible. Shaun will be in camp on friday. Thats absolutely huge. It would have been a horrible omen for the attitude of this team if he would have held out. This move absolutely wreaks of Tim Ruskell. Its a football guy making a big-time football decision. Essentially, what this does, is gives the Seahawks one-year to find a replacement for Shaun Alexander. If at this time next year, they still can't find a viable replacement, the Hawks will simply find Shaun Alexander's biggest offer....and increase it by two-million dollars. Done. Shaun will go for the biggest contract he is offered next year, even if its from the Seahawks. The Seahawks also believe that his value has a good chance of declining as he turns 28 next season, so he may be cheaper next season than this. Shaun is going to have a more amazing year this year than any of us thought possible. I just feel really bad to whoever pays him to come play for them next year. They'll quickly find out why everybody is so sick of his act in Seattle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 Shaun is going to have a more amazing year this year than any of us thought possible. I just feel really bad to whoever pays him to come play for them next year. They'll quickly find out why everybody is so sick of his act in Seattle. 898349[/snapback] Soooooo, he's going to have an amazing year, but you are sick of his act? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.