Randall Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 January 25, 2007, 08:00 Falcons :: QB Police Erase QB Mi. Vick Tape, After Request? Chris Vivlamore, Megan Clarke, Andrea Jones, Atlanta Journal-Constitution - Miami-Dade police erased the airport security video showing Falcons QB Michael Vick disposing of a fake water bottle at the airport after it was requested by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution under Florida's public records law. The AJC requested a copy of the video on Jan. 18 from the Miami-Dade Police Department, but they would not release it because it was part of an open investigation. After the case was closed, the AJC again requested a copy of the video and was told that it had been erased. The Transportation Security Administration still has a copy of the video but has refused to release it, citing national security concerns. What's going on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Pay off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted January 25, 2007 Author Share Posted January 25, 2007 Pay off. Dan Patrick (on his radio show) sounded that way yesterday. He had one source who said the Falcons requested it be erased. It looks like the AJC found another copy of the tape and can't get it. Now it's a national security issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAYER Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 What I want to know is what was in the hidden part. Looks like pot, smells like pot, in a hidden compartment but was NOT pot. Then what was it, inquiring minds want to know. When originally reported said it would take weeks or months to complete the analysis, then in a few days it was dismissed. I really don't think it was oregano. This looks like a cover up IMO. also as an amusing side note, heard this on DP show half paying attention so don't know if this was a joke or not, Vick is in trouble for expense account fudging because he charged the water bottle to his expense account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabuffbills Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 What I want to know is what was in the hidden part. Looks like pot, smells like pot, in a hidden compartment but was NOT pot. Then what was it, inquiring minds want to know. I guess it was a bomb since it was a matter of national security Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CD6405 Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Maybe since it was a security camera at an airport if it was a widespread video, the wrong type of people could get the tapes and find a way around the security, a loophole, something they don't check, just something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xMRogers Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 I'm thinking the TSA just says that about every video. I am surprised the police would erase it like that.... Man, this is like the best story - just keeps going on with crazy stuff, all over just an idiotic move in the first place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 The only legitimate threat that Vick poses to any American is if they have tickets in the first 15-20 rows at a Falcons' game and he's passing the football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godtomsatan Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 (edited) What I want to know is what was in the hidden part. Looks like pot, smells like pot, in a hidden compartment but was NOT pot. Then what was it, inquiring minds want to know. When originally reported said it would take weeks or months to complete the analysis, then in a few days it was dismissed. I really don't think it was oregano. Mushrooms. Edited January 25, 2007 by godtomsatan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatman Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 http://www.theonion.com/content/from_print...vick_that_wasnt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAYER Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 http://www.theonion.com/content/from_print...vick_that_wasnt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 BTW, where's WaterTool to defend his herpes-infested, pot-smoking favorite player? Maybe the combination of this and Peyton's AFC title were just too much for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 BTW, where's WaterTool to defend his herpes-infested, pot-smoking favorite player? Maybe the combination of this and Peyton's AFC title were just too much for him. I'm here. I read this last night and my opinion is the same now, so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CD6405 Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 I'm here. I read this last night and my opinion is the same now, so. He ment Waterman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 He ment Waterman Really! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 When originally reported said it would take weeks or months to complete the analysis, then in a few days it was dismissed. I really don't think it was oregano. The chemical test for THC in residue is a pretty simple & quick test. Results in like an hour at most. You can even buy basic THC test kits over the internet. I'd say the initial reports mentioning that it would take weeks or months for the results, was not because any difficulty with the test, but more the back log at the Florida Bureau of Investigations. Underpaid, understaffed & overworked. They're pretty overwhelmed with requests for analysis of suspicious substances. I mean it's Florida for goodness sake. More drugs coming in there (then pipelined up the East Coast) than anywhere else in America. But for a high profile case like this, I'm sure the testing of the residue in the bottle was bumped right to the top. This looks like a cover up IMO.Vick is an athlete. In case you haven't noticed, our judical system seems to take great delight in prosecuting high profile athletes. Now if Vick were a Politician, I'd be much more inclined to buy the cover up idea. Why the tape of Vick tossing the bottle into a trash can, was erased by the Cops & the other copy is being withheld as a "Threat to National Security", is pretty crazy. It's a video of him flipping a bottle into a trash can. Woop de Freakin' do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted January 26, 2007 Author Share Posted January 26, 2007 Then what was it and why did he hide it? If it was mothing nothing why not say what it was? That fact and reports the team wanted the tape erased(secrecy) is what gives this legs. Vick getting suspended and the team losing $Milllions in ticker revenue is enough to ecert influence over the govt. <Arthur Blank> "You owe me for those tickets I gave you Captain. Just accidently erase the tape." Aqua-gate timeline Daniel A. Lurvey, a former prosecutor with the state attorney's office, said the quick evaluation of the bottle with a hidden compartment was an "abnormality." "Usually the lab has a turnaround time of within three weeks on felony drug cases because an arraignment is always three weeks from the time of the arrest," said Lurvey, of Lyons & Lurvey, a Miami firm that handles criminal defense work. He said celebrity status can play a role in criminal cases. "Sometimes other things go into the calculation not to pursue charges," Lurvey said. "The amount of something. The difficulty in proving it. Sometimes the backdrop of who the person is, although that really should not be involved, but sometimes it is. Somebody just made the decision to clear it." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Then what was it and why did he hide it? If it was mothing nothing why not say what it was? That fact and reports the team wanted the tape erased(secrecy) is what gives this legs. Vick getting suspended and the team losing $Milllions in ticker revenue is enough to ecert influence over the govt. <Arthur Blank> "You owe me for those tickets I gave you Captain. Just accidently erase the tape." Aqua-gate timeline Daniel A. Lurvey, a former prosecutor with the state attorney's office, said the quick evaluation of the bottle with a hidden compartment was an "abnormality." "Usually the lab has a turnaround time of within three weeks on felony drug cases because an arraignment is always three weeks from the time of the arrest," said Lurvey, of Lyons & Lurvey, a Miami firm that handles criminal defense work. He said celebrity status can play a role in criminal cases. "Sometimes other things go into the calculation not to pursue charges," Lurvey said. "The amount of something. The difficulty in proving it. Sometimes the backdrop of who the person is, although that really should not be involved, but sometimes it is. Somebody just made the decision to clear it." Oh well then. That's it! He's guilty! I say lets just hang 'em & move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted January 26, 2007 Author Share Posted January 26, 2007 Oh well then. That's it! He's guilty! I say lets just hang 'em & move on. No. It's just that when people erase things and refuse to supply others it makes people wonder what being covered up. If they had just been up front this would have died long ago if he didn't do anything. Trnasparency is a good practice. Tell the AJC they can view the video on site and release what the substance was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraftykraft Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Vick gets off of smuggling a water bottle full of mysterious liquid and organic substance into an airport security area, then the tape gets deleted for national security reasons? Could it be that "Ron Mexico" is not just some cheesey name that Vick came up with so that he can infect young women while ducking the legal liabilities? My theory: Mike Vick walks into a club <cue "James Bond/Ron Mexico" theme music> Ron Mexico suavely says-"My name is Mexico--Ron Mexico." Duh-nuh--duh-nuh--nuh-nuh-nuh!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 No. It's just that when people erase things and refuse to supply others it makes people wonder what being covered up. If they had just been up front this would have died long ago if he didn't do anything. Trnasparency is a good practice. Tell the AJC they can view the video on site and release what the substance was. Why the cops erased the video is weird & was probably a mistake on their part, but really, who cares? It's just gonna show Vick flipping a water bottle into a trash can. Not getting to see Vick throw trash away ain't gonna cause me any sleepless nights. How about you? As far as what the residue was, they may not even know. I think the tests most states run are pretty basic & only confirm if the substance being tested is an illegal drug or not. Once it's been ruled out as an illegal substance, the state labs don't continue running even more tests & tying up both equipment & lab technicians, just to find out what the legal substance is. They simply don't have the time, man power or funds to do that, considering the back log & on top of that, it's a pointless exercise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolf Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 In this day and age, it is possible that the TSA will not allow this footage to be shown, and thus erased, not the police department. It might not be so much that Vick is a threat to national security but perhaps there is something on the tape itself -- camera angles, counters, positioning of TSA security, procedures, etc. -- that could be analyzed by some one who would be a threat to national security. Thus, they would now have an advantage in getting something onto a plane that could cause harm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godtomsatan Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Aqua-gate timeline "In the big scheme of things, as far as the [Miami-Dade police] is concerned, that's not a major case. We have homicides and sexual batteries and other things that are probably going to take precedence," Grow up and get over it Randall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Irish Doggy Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 He's the most exciting player in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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