The Peanut Guy Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 I was just listening to the Colin Cowherd show on ESPN radio. Mel Kiper Jr was his guest so they starting discussing the NFL draft. One thing they mentioned that I didnt realize is that the Washington Redskins dont have a 2nd, 3rd, or 4th round draft pick! That is a disaster for a team that desperately needs several young players at a number of positions. This is a team that was basically in free fall from the midway point of the season, and now wont be able to improve through the draft. That is an absolute killer, especially competing in the tough NFC East. This team has been horribly mis-managed and are listing badly. I see them headed for Lions/Raiders type records very soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorttynaz Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 I was just listening to the Colin Cowherd show on ESPN radio. Mel Kiper Jr was his guest so they starting discussing the NFL draft. One thing they mentioned that I didnt realize is that the Washington Redskins dont have a 2nd, 3rd, or 4th round draft pick! That is a disaster for a team that desperately needs several young players at a number of positions. This is a team that was basically in free fall from the midway point of the season, and now wont be able to improve through the draft. That is an absolute killer, especially competing in the tough NFC East. This team has been horribly mis-managed and are listing badly. I see them headed for Lions/Raiders type records very soon. The only thing they need "NOW" to become a legitimate contender is a QB who can actually read a defense and complete a pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolf Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Were all these picks traded away or are they lost picks as compensation for signing free agents (nor sure if the NFL does this to the team that signs the FA)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Were all these picks traded away or are they lost picks as compensation for signing free agents (nor sure if the NFL does this to the team that signs the FA)? Through trades. NFL rules state that picks can be added for losing free agents, but these are added at the end of later rounds - they don't come from another team directly. The only way a team forfeits draft picks are for using them in a supplemental draft or for rules violations, such as going over the salary cap. None are lost for signing free agents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolf Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Through trades. NFL rules state that picks can be added for losing free agents, but these are added at the end of later rounds - they don't come from another team directly. The only way a team forfeits draft picks are for using them in a supplemental draft or for rules violations, such as going over the salary cap. None are lost for signing free agents. Thanks BJ...I knew about teams adding picks for losing FA and losing picks if they select in the supplemental draft. Still cannot believe that they mismanaged themselves this poorly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish247 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 (edited) The only thing they need "NOW" to become a legitimate contender is a QB who can actually read a defense and complete a pass. oh I'd say they need quite a bit more than a QB to become a legit contender "NOW". they may want to improve on allowing 30 pass TDs, making only 19 sacks, and forcing a pitiful 6 INTs. if 1 of their front 7 can't get to the QB, then it doesn't matter how many secondary FAs they overpay for (Archuleta, Springs) or high draft picks they blow on corners (Rogers). Were all these picks traded away or are they lost picks as compensation for signing free agents (nor sure if the NFL does this to the team that signs the FA)? the 3rd rd pick goes to Denver for the Duckett/Lelie trade. oh and they owe Denver their 2008 4th rounder as well. the 4th rd pick goes to SF to round out the Lloyd trade. why they owe the 2nd round pick is laughable... they gave the Jets their 2007 2nd rounder PLUS 2 picks last year (their 2nd and 6th rd picks) to move up and take Rocky McIntosh. Edited February 7, 2007 by kingfish247 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 0ne Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Still coming up for the Giants game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballjoe Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 (edited) The Redskins love to build through Free Agency. They are near the cap limit now unless a lot of contracts can be reworked. Edited February 7, 2007 by Footballjoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xMRogers Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 the 3rd rd pick goes to Denver for the Duckett/Lelie trade. oh and they owe Denver their 2008 4th rounder as well. the 4th rd pick goes to SF to round out the Lloyd trade. why they owe the 2nd round pick is laughable... they gave the Jets their 2007 2nd rounder PLUS 2 picks last year (their 2nd and 6th rd picks) to move up and take Rocky McIntosh. What's funniest about this is right now, if the Skins fans were asked: Would you trade Lloyd, Duckett and Rocky McIntosh for a 2nd, 3rd and 4th rd pick - they'd say yes. Essentially meanign that all the rest of the things given up in those trades/moves were complete wastes.... I do love the skins sucking.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish247 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 i forgot that they got a 6th rounder last year for Ramsey so they actually had 2 picks in the 6th before sending one to the Jets in that package. how they ended up with Ramsey in 2002 is pretty comical too. they traded down via 2 trades from the 18th overall to the 32nd overall for a couple of middle round picks then proceeded to trade away a couple of those middle round picks via 2 more trades to get an extra late round pick and move up in the 3rd round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Somewhere George "The future is now" Allen is smiling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Still coming up for the Giants game? Oh yeah. I love the Redskins rain or shine. And I talked to another Huddler who likes my name and says "yer not nice.." who may want to come with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Peanut Guy Posted February 7, 2007 Author Share Posted February 7, 2007 Rocky McIntosh. I watch ALOT of football. Alot! And I have no idea who Rocky McIntosh is and cant recall ever hearing that name. Am I the only one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Peanut Guy Posted February 7, 2007 Author Share Posted February 7, 2007 And I talked to another Huddler who likes my name and says "yer not nice.." who may want to come with us. For the love of God, lets hope this 3rd guy has at least a remnant of hair left on his head. 3 cueballs walking around in New Jersey and they might think the Neo-Nazis are having a convention... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 For the love of God, lets hope this 3rd guy has at least a remnant of hair left on his head. 3 cueballs walking around in New Jersey and they might think the Neo-Nazis are having a convention... Yer just jealous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolly Rodgers Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 I watch ALOT of football. Alot! And I have no idea who Rocky McIntosh is and cant recall ever hearing that name. Am I the only one? LB from the U I think. I could google him but I would rather have someone do that for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Peanut Guy Posted February 7, 2007 Author Share Posted February 7, 2007 LB from the U I think. Oh good Lord! Seriously though, the Skins have some problems and arent going to be able to address alot of them through the draft. Their model of building a team through over-paying free agents has been proven not to work time and again. Do any of you skins fans think that there is any reason for hope? Or am I being way to pessimistic in my assessment of their near term prospects? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 (edited) What's funniest about this is right now, if the Skins fans were asked: Would you trade Lloyd, Duckett and Rocky McIntosh for a 2nd, 3rd and 4th rd pick - they'd say yes. Essentially meanign that all the rest of the things given up in those trades/moves were complete wastes.... I do love the skins sucking.... McIntosh isn't a waste. Rookies never start under Williams and he showed some athleticism last year. The jury is still out on him, but Lloyd, Archiletta and Duckett are different stories. I watch ALOT of football. Alot! And I have no idea who Rocky McIntosh is and cant recall ever hearing that name. Am I the only one? Linebacker from the U, but like I said rookies rarely start under Williams. Edited February 7, 2007 by Randall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cigarman Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 I dont think the skins need a QB, Campbell only played a handful of games last year and it was a new offense. I think campbell may not be an elite QB, but one that can do a very good job with the Skins with a lil experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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