Jimmy Neutron Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 but, Barack ObamaSupports extending the assault weapons ban. Supports national law against carrying concealed weapons, with exceptions for retired police and military personnel. Supports limiting gun sales to one per month. Too bad. I'm not surprised, but this is worse than Hillary's stance on guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isleseeya Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 How is it worse than hillary's ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Now I know I can't vote for him. If it's him and McCain I may not vote for the first time since I've been eligible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Neutron Posted February 29, 2008 Author Share Posted February 29, 2008 How is it worse than hillary's ? See the link above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skippy Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 If he supports us being able to walk about with a weapon but just not concealed I would be first in line to vote for him. Unfortuneately I don't think that what he is suggesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 but, Too bad. I'm not surprised, but this is worse than Hillary's stance on guns. as a gun owner dont see much wrong with what he says.. but hay i dont need a 50 cal bar or a pistol in my socks..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polksalet Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Hope everyone likes McCain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Neutron Posted February 29, 2008 Author Share Posted February 29, 2008 as a gun owner dont see much wrong with what he says you are a true enigma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polksalet Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 you are a true enigma. no, I am pretty sure he is white Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubfoothead Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 His position on the issue doesn't really change my opinion of him. It would probably be difficult for McCain's position to change my opinion of him. I will not vote for Huckabee or Clinton unless somehow Bill's running again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicCEO Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 If he supports us being able to walk about with a weapon but just not concealed I would be first in line to vote for him. Unfortuneately I don't think that what he is suggesting. I think that he's saying everyone can and should carry a gun (or "go heels" as they say), but it must be worn in an external holster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skippy Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 I think that he's saying everyone can and should carry a gun (or "go heels" as they say), but it must be worn in an external holster. I did not read the link as I just don't have time as of right now but if that is true then I actually like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Neutron Posted February 29, 2008 Author Share Posted February 29, 2008 I seriously doubt he's in favor of concealed carry, but in favor of open carry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicCEO Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 I did not read the link as I just don't have time as of right now but if that is true then I actually like that. Can't you just take my word for it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duchess Jack Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Supports extending the assault weapons ban: - Why is this a bad thing? Supports national law against carrying concealed weapons, with exceptions for retired police and military personnel: Cool with me - but I can see where some people would have a problem with this. Supports limiting gun sales to one per month: Maybe its better the say 12 per year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 "Supports" is one thing, "enacts into law" is quite another. If Obama wins, he's going to have enough on his plate that all this stuff would never see the light of day. Just another wedge issue to fire up the NRA cranks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polksalet Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 What is an assault weapon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billay Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 From the things I have read, Obama is about as anti-gun as you can get. Frankly, that's one of the things I like about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Cid Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 I would be stoked if he supported open carry, but I'm guessing that's not in the cards. I'm not in favor of his stance on guns at all. Just another reason I support Libertarians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 but, Too bad. I'm not surprised, but this is worse than Hillary's stance on guns. I know no hunters or sportsmen that use an AK47 for hunting. What's next machine guns to catch trout?. Come on Jimmy. The assault weaons ban and more cops on the streets works. I'm all for hunting and fishing but this is crazy. How about a little common sense here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 I know no hunters or sportsmen that use an AK47 for hunting. What's next machine guns to catch trout?. Come on Jimmy. The assault weaons ban and more cops on the streets works. I'm all for hunting and fishing but this is crazy. How about a little common sense here. I don't recall the words "hunting" or "fishing" populating the second amendment. All I ask is for my constitutional rights to be honored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimC Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Can't we can wait until September or October to completely destroy the man? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billay Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 I don't recall the words "hunting" or "fishing" populating the second amendment. All I ask is for my constitutional rights to be honored. How about we take a strict intrerpretation to the constitution and restrict arms to those available when it was written? I'm cool with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Cid Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 I know no hunters or sportsmen that use an AK47 for hunting. What's next machine guns to catch trout?. Come on Jimmy. The assault weaons ban and more cops on the streets works. I'm all for hunting and fishing but this is crazy. How about a little common sense here. Sigh... Any person who's a decent shot and a good long rifle is far more dangerous than some tool with a semi-automatic rifle. Just because it looks dangerous doesn't mean that it is any more effective at killing something. The assault weapon ban is simply a political tool used to get folks riled up; mostly folks that are collectors and sportsmen who have a legitimate reason for wanting to own one of the weapons and those on the other side that want all guns banned. It is used to turn the gun issue, which should be a straight forward logical and objective issue, into something emotional that appeals to the masses. The simple fact of the matter is, I don't see crack dealers standing on the corner with AK47s either but that's certainly what the general public thinks. I would ask that everyone take a step back and think about this ban in an objective and unemotional way. I can only hope that then you see how completely useless it is as a tool to prevent firearms from getting into the hands of the wrong people. It does far more to limit the legitimate ownership of these guns than it does to help keep society safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 (edited) From the things I have read, Obama is about as anti-gun as you can get. Frankly, that's one of the things I like about him. +1 And don't get me wrong, the fact that I support stricter gun control doesn't mean that I want them all to go away. Rather, exactly what it says, stricter control. Considering whack-job a V Tech was able to legally purchase the guns he used in the massacre after documented cases of his poor mental health, I can't see why any sane person would not agree that it should be harder to get a gun. The last time this was brought up I asked this and was surprised by the arguments I got about it, can we just start with not letting crazy people have guns? Is that too much to ask? Considering that the NRA fights tooth and nail over every restriction as if it's some slippery slope to nobody being allowed to own guns... as if not allowing people who are confirmed nut jobs to have guns will somehow be a precedent for taking that right away from sane, law abiding citizens... then I support someone in power who's going to push hard to increase restrictions. Well, there's that and the fact that I would just as soon not have a bunch of dudes walking around with concealed guns. Like I've said before, I've managed to go my entire life without owning a gun and have lived in Berkeley/Oakland, CA, NYC, and Durham, NC among other places. Hardly the safest areas out there. Contrary to popular opinion, it can be done. My primary concerns about allowing people to walk around with guns basically comes down to the fact that I think many people are stupid. My issues have to do with, when somebody like H8tank posts a story about some dude who guns down two thieves who are running away and not posing a threat to his or anyone else's safety, there are people who don't mind it. Well, I don't want to be the guy that happens to be standing next to the guy that some vigilante moron decides needs to be shot there and then because he took some old ladies purse. And, unfortunately, I have little reason to expect that some (not all) gun advocates will have the sense not to pull the trigger right there. Edited February 29, 2008 by detlef Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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