tosberg34 Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 I have the bears Defense and at first Fanball scored it as a DF TD. Now I see they have removed the 6 points but have not scored it for Rashied Davis either. Anyone know if this is a DF TD or is it an offensive TD? How did your league score it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackass Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 what happened exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outshined Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 what happened exactly? From sportsline: (12:23) (No Huddle, Shotgun) K.Orton pass short middle to D.Clark to MIN 1 for 35 yards (C.Griffin). FUMBLES (C.Griffin), recovered by CHI-R.Davis at MIN -1. TOUCHDOWN. CHI-D.Hester was injured during the play. He is Out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBalata Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 It's ruled as an Offensive Fumble recovery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skippy Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 It's ruled as an Offensive Fumble recovery. That is correct. If you started Rashied Davis you should get a TD for Rashied Davis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosberg34 Posted October 19, 2008 Author Share Posted October 19, 2008 That is correct. If you started Rashied Davis you should get a TD for Rashied Davis. I don't like that at all. When you fumble the ball aren't you technically on defense then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackass Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 I don't like that at all. When you fumble the ball aren't you technically on defense then? No. if minny had recovered and then lost it, then i think Chic might be considered to be on defense. But Chic never lost possession. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosberg34 Posted October 19, 2008 Author Share Posted October 19, 2008 No. if minny had recovered and then lost it, then i think Chic might be considered to be on defense. But Chic never lost possession. Yeah, that figures. I should know that is the case since I'm the one that needs the points. Just my luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsr78 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 1 yd TD Run for Davis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimm74 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 I don't like that at all. When you fumble the ball aren't you technically on defense then? Technically no you are not. Your logic would reason there is no such thing as a defensive touchdown b/c as soon as the defense recovers it is on offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claymont Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Espn doesn't have it as a td for rashied I got him on my bench and he only got 3 catches for 24 yards and only scored 5 points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burton164 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 CBS didnt score for DEF/ST either. Oh well , I guess 2 Def TD's will have to be enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 CBS didnt score for DEF/ST either. Oh well , I guess 2 Def TD's will have to be enough. What am I missing here? Why would it be def/sp teams when the Bears were on offense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxfactor Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 From sportsline: (12:23) (No Huddle, Shotgun) K.Orton pass short middle to D.Clark to MIN 1 for 35 yards (C.Griffin). FUMBLES (C.Griffin), recovered by CHI-R.Davis at MIN -1. TOUCHDOWN. CHI-D.Hester was injured during the play. He is Out. Now if Clark fumbled at the 1, like it says here, I thought the ball goes back to the spot of the fumble? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outshined Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Now if Clark fumbled at the 1, like it says here, I thought the ball goes back to the spot of the fumble? I don't think it was recovered in the endzone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Now if Clark fumbled at the 1, like it says here, I thought the ball goes back to the spot of the fumble? That is the rule only in the last two minutes of the game, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burton164 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 As of this morning. CBS is showing 3 TD's for the Bears D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 (edited) As of this morning. CBS is showing 3 TD's for the Bears D. CBS stats for that game are a little messed up. 1. Yes, they are still crediting the CHI defense with 3 TDs, when it should be only 2. 2. Assuming the are crediting Rashied Davis with a defensive TD, logic dictates they are also giving him a defensive fumble fumble recovery. 3. If so, then the CHI defense should have two totall fumble recoveries, but they are not crediting Zach Bowman with a fumble recovery (he covered the ball in the endzone). I have a feeling some of these stats are going to be tweaked tonight and tomorrow night, so commish's should prepare their leagues for the adjustment in scoring. Edited October 20, 2008 by i_am_the_swammi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrobn26 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 MFL has credited the TD to nobody....yet. Davis will probably get it, but his stats state 1 rush for -1 yards. The ball WAS in the EZ when he recovered it, but the ball bounced on the 1 yard line before bouncing into the EZ. Also, there is a rule at MFL that I'm thinking nobody instituted in their leagues. The rule is "Number of Offensive fumble recoverey TD's". I checked 2 of my leagues and that option is not invoked. So I'm guessing no FF team will get the 6 points because at least MFL has no "ALL TD" option. At least I couldn't find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skippy Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 MFL has credited the TD to nobody....yet. Davis will probably get it, but his stats state 1 rush for -1 yards. The ball WAS in the EZ when he recovered it, but the ball bounced on the 1 yard line before bouncing into the EZ. Also, there is a rule at MFL that I'm thinking nobody instituted in their leagues. The rule is "Number of Offensive fumble recoverey TD's". I checked 2 of my leagues and that option is not invoked. So I'm guessing no FF team will get the 6 points because at least MFL has no "ALL TD" option. At least I couldn't find it. That is correct but incorrect, RR. Correct that you need to define that offensive fumble recovery td but if you have been with MFL or FFLM for any amount of time chances are you already crossed this bridge and have this TD covered. All of my MFL leagues minus the one that you and I share, (have not checked that one), have all credited that td to Rashied Davis and he got no yards for it just the TD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBalata Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 MFL has credited the TD to nobody....yet. Davis will probably get it, but his stats state 1 rush for -1 yards. The ball WAS in the EZ when he recovered it, but the ball bounced on the 1 yard line before bouncing into the EZ. Also, there is a rule at MFL that I'm thinking nobody instituted in their leagues. The rule is "Number of Offensive fumble recoverey TD's". I checked 2 of my leagues and that option is not invoked. So I'm guessing no FF team will get the 6 points because at least MFL has no "ALL TD" option. At least I couldn't find it. All my MFL leagues are crediting Davis with a TD except for one. Most of them are set up to credit a player for an Offensive Fumble Recovery. My HAG league is the only one not giving him the td. Looks like we've never been set up that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrobn26 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 All my MFL leagues are crediting Davis with a TD except for one. Most of them are set up to credit a player for an Offensive Fumble Recovery. My HAG league is the only one not giving him the td. Looks like we've never been set up that way. True....and a consideration for next year. The only league I am in that has that rule invoked is Late Bloomers, FWIW. Wish MFL had an ALL TD rule to make it simpler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 If your scoring rules do not specify that an individual gets credit for offensive fumble recovery TDs, then this play will not show up as being scored for Davies. This is not exactly a rare occurrence, though it is the first one this year, but it has happened a few times each year. In year's past (maybe 4-5 years ago), it used to be ruled as a rushing touchdown in the stats, but that has since changed and the play shows up as an offensive fumble recovery TD, which, at least in MFL, is a selectable scoring category. So, this may well be an issue of how your commishes have set your league site up for handling scoring more so than how the NFL is scoring the play, as it really is not that unusual of a play. This is from the MFL Strange Plays for Week 7: Desmond Clark (CHI) Fumbled it on the 1 yard line after a long reception, and Rashied Davis (CHI) Scored a 0 yard OFFENSIVE Fumble Recovery TD when he recovered his teammate's fumble in the end zone. NOTE: This is the first Offensive Fumble Recovery TD of the year, so be sure you have the "Number of Offensive Fumble Recovery TDs" rule set up for your league if you want this TD to be scored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 True....and a consideration for next year. The only league I am in that has that rule invoked is Late Bloomers, FWIW. Wish MFL had an ALL TD rule to make it simpler. They have a rule called "Total Touchdowns" that includes every type of TD and awards that to the position the rule is set up for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let It Ride Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 (edited) CBS didnt count it as a Bears TD until late last nite. Then just 5 minutes ago they changed it back to no TD for the defense.....piss! So in essence...it was not a Bears TD...then they ruled it a Bears TD ...then changed it back to no TD. Make up your freakin minds....I am in a battle this week and they are playing with my life/mind!!!!!!! LOL. Edited October 20, 2008 by Let It Ride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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