Azazello1313 Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 and say that nick fairley is probably the best defensive player in this draft. dareus is a nice player too, but any team that drafts him over fairley (go broncos!) will wind up regretting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEC=UGA Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 and say that nick fairley is probably the best defensive player in this draft. dareus is a nice player too, but any team that drafts him over fairley (go broncos!) will wind up regretting it. No they won't. Fairley is a freaking head case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Fairley is over-rated by a bit. He had a great national championship game where he went astoundingly unblocked on 2 of his sacks. But he's the definition of a one-year wonder with work ethic and head-case issues attached. His upside might be higher than Dareus', but his floor is way, way lower and the odds of his crapping out are IMNSHO much higher than his becoming a stud DT in the NFL. Way too much risk, specially for a top 10 pick. Dareus on the other hand is going to give some team an outstanding & steady DT who will make his share of plays but will have to be accounted for on all plays and will free up LBs behind him to do their jobs. He's going to do exactly what a DT should do and has a shot at making a few pro bowls in his career. I'll take the Dareus over the Fairley if I'm badly in need of DL help any time. If I've got a solid DL with some vets with good work ethic and leadership abilities, Fairley is a nice player to add to see if you can cull out his issues and turn into a monster. DEN has no business taking huge risks on guys like Fairley given how needy they are in the front 7. If he is bust, you've set the whole D back another year in its recovery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 (edited) I think Denver should take a DE, say Robert Quinn or Bowers (if he is truly past his injury) and if the Broncos do pass on Dareus that is who I see the Bills taking (even if Cam is on the board). Edited April 27, 2011 by keggerz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Fairley is over-rated by a bit. He had a great national championship game where he went astoundingly unblocked on 2 of his sacks. But he's the definition of a one-year wonder with work ethic and head-case issues attached. His upside might be higher than Dareus', but his floor is way, way lower and the odds of his crapping out are IMNSHO much higher than his becoming a stud DT in the NFL. Way too much risk, specially for a top 10 pick. Dareus on the other hand is going to give some team an outstanding & steady DT who will make his share of plays but will have to be accounted for on all plays and will free up LBs behind him to do their jobs. He's going to do exactly what a DT should do and has a shot at making a few pro bowls in his career. I'll take the Dareus over the Fairley if I'm badly in need of DL help any time. If I've got a solid DL with some vets with good work ethic and leadership abilities, Fairley is a nice player to add to see if you can cull out his issues and turn into a monster. DEN has no business taking huge risks on guys like Fairley given how needy they are in the front 7. If he is bust, you've set the whole D back another year in its recovery. This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 This I may have to rethink my position... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawks21 Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Dareus is an absolute freak. Watch their highlight tapes one after the other, there is a noticeable difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustOfBeenDrunk Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 This Holy crap a one word reply ,,, I thought a one paragraph reply was out of the question all in good fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brent Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 There is no way I would consider either DL the best defensive player in this draft. Peterson and Von Miller are the 2 best IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skilly Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 +1 on Dareus. At #2, he's their best bet that fills the greatest need. Looking further in the draft, I will be pissed if they even consider taking an offensive player before the 6th round. MAAYBE they take Kyle Rudolph with their 2nd 2nd rounder if he's there, but I'm tired of seeing all the mocks of them taking a running back early. F that! Yes, Knowshon is brittle and not that good, but just fix the damn lines first already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 NFL Network says that latest buzz is Von Miller to Denver... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 NFL Network says that latest buzz is Von Miller to Denver... Von Miller has to be their pick. Yeah, I heard a couple outlets saying it's very possible. FWIW, I think Patrick Peterson is the best defender in this class by a country mile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted April 28, 2011 Author Share Posted April 28, 2011 NFL Network says that latest buzz is Von Miller to Denver... yeah and I'm pretty good with that. if I were making the pick, I'd probably take him or peterson. yeah, I think fairley has the most potential to be dominant (he was the biggest difference maker of the bunch this past year in college), but there is a greater risk factor as well. I think the DT position just scares me with that high a pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Miller would be a great addition, but they'd better plan on his playing WILL, because if he's the SAM and lined up behind Doom, teams will run that way all day long. Those two guys are players, but they're also damned light and Doom's Achilles' heel is his ability to anchor against the run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Miller would be a great addition, but they'd better plan on his playing WILL, because if he's the SAM and lined up behind Doom, teams will run that way all day long. Those two guys are players, but they're also damned light and Doom's Achilles' heel is his ability to anchor against the run. Yup, Miller's far too small to play the SAM there. He'd be a solid add to the other side of that line, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonGhost Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 For all the question marks concerning Fairly SUh and VandenBosh will server as great motivators for Fairly. Fairly will have so many chances to succeed basically never seeing double teams with Suh on the line. Now the lions just need to sign Nnamdi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh B Tool Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 (edited) Fairly plays way too long/tall to be even near the player he was in college. He hardly ever plays low and that presents hugh problems in the NFL. Now being next to Suh and Van may help a bit, but I see him as decent, but not great in the league. Dareus on the other hand is so much more usable as an interior lineman. Edited April 29, 2011 by Hugh B Tool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 For all the question marks concerning Fairly SUh and VandenBosh will server as great motivators for Fairly. Fairly will have so many chances to succeed basically never seeing double teams with Suh on the line. Now the lions just need to sign Nnamdi. This is kind of how I see it. The Detroit D line might be pretty f-ing scary next year. I really thought they would have jumped on Prince at that spot to fill their need for CB, but I guess they just couldn't pass on Fairly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furd Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 If I've got a solid DL with some vets with good work ethic and leadership abilities, Fairley is a nice player to add to see if you can cull out his issues and turn into a monster. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turf Smurf Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 This is kind of how I see it. The Detroit D line might be pretty f-ing scary next year. I really thought they would have jumped on Prince at that spot to fill their need for CB, but I guess they just couldn't pass on Fairly. So, now they lose 0-3.....thanks to the defense..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 So, now they lose 0-3.....thanks to the defense..... Don't watch much Detroit ball? For losing their starting QB for most of the year, that team could still put up some points. I think they finished around the middle of the league in total offense, but I consider that to be decent with the amount of time Stafford sat on the bench. Personally, I would have gone Prince but I have to assume they have some free agent in mind for CB (considering how bad the corners were for DET). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Fairly was good value but Prince was the pick there. Not that it was a bad pick, but ignoring team needs is not brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Anyone think it was a coincidence that both CHI and GB selected OTs in rd 1 after watching DET draft Fairley? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Anyone think it was a coincidence that both CHI and GB selected OTs in rd 1 after watching DET draft Fairley? No . . because Fairley will not play defensive end. If they drafted centers and guards, that would make more sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 No . . because Fairley will not play defensive end. If they drafted centers and guards, that would make more sense. You're not serious, right? I really have gotten to the point where I don't know if you are fishing or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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