SuperBalla Posted May 13, 2011 Author Share Posted May 13, 2011 If you were one of the people who chased the guy or threatened him with violence, then you definitely are a zealot or maybe even an assh*le. (For hoping the guy was killed, probably the latter). In any event, you need to grow up. Proally so bruh, a big a$$hole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 I hope I can be as patriotic as you one day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 What a f'n stupid thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBalla Posted May 13, 2011 Author Share Posted May 13, 2011 What a f'n stupid thread. U were certainly a part of it, typikal. I'm glad you agree with US Flag burning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 U were certainly a part of it, typikal. I'm glad you agree with US Flag burning. Yeah, what's typikal is someone turning a stance on freedom of speech (1st Amendment in case you forgot) and turn the words into what you just did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 (edited) U were certainly a part of it, typikal. I'm glad you agree with US Flag burning. There are many things I disagree with that I think people should have the choice to do. You don't come off very smart saying stuff like this. This wasn't a wreck until you took it upon yourself to get outraged at everyone who wasn't as outraged as yourself. IMO, life is too short to get pissed off at idiots, you can wast a lot of time an energy doing that. Like Furd said, grow up. Edited May 13, 2011 by bushwacked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimC Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 When do we finally hit up the churches? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electricrelish Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 True. I don't think there's another country on the planet with less taste than the USA. Las Vegas in the ultimate pinnacle of poor taste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBalla Posted May 13, 2011 Author Share Posted May 13, 2011 I respect freedom of speech. I don't respect burning the US flag, it should be outlawed. Pretty simple. I am dumb and need to grow up I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 The 1st Amendment does not guarantee that there will be no consequences for exercising your right to freedom of speech. Any radio or tv personality that decided to go off on a rant about N-Words (we can't even type the word here without getting banned) would almost certainly be fired immediately. They are more than free to express themselves. And we are free to react... sometimes passionately. So what's the problem here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 I am dumb and need to grow up I guess. Good info here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 I find it ironic that those that keep pounding the "freedom of speech" angle are those that are ripping on Balla for simply expressing his stance on the subject. In fact, I'd call it beyond ironic; I'd call it pure hypocrisy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Shouldn't burning the flag fall under the definition of "hate speech"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBalata Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 I find it ironic that those that keep pounding the "freedom of speech" angle are those that are ripping on Balla for simply expressing his stance on the subject. In fact, I'd call it beyond ironic; I'd call it pure hypocrisy. this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 (edited) I find it ironic that those that keep pounding the "freedom of speech" angle are those that are ripping on Balla for simply expressing his stance on the subject. In fact, I'd call it beyond ironic; I'd call it pure hypocrisy. One of the results of having this freedom is to let dumb people to dumb things and then state how dumb they are (and I'm talking more about the flag burner). If Balla thinks the dude should die for burning the flag, then it doesn't make Furd a hypocrite for doing a rolling eyeball gramelin on Balla for that. If Balla can't differentiate between disagreeing with something and thinking it should be outlawed, that doesn't make me or Pope a hypocrite for pointing that out. If one of us actually stated Balla should be kicked off the huddle forums then your analogy would be more succinct. Edited May 13, 2011 by bushwacked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 +3 I think the guy that burned the flag as a statement is a dope, and I think those that, in the spirit of what our flag stands for, say he should be flogged and punished for it are also missing the point. Again, the definition of lose-lose. As someone mentioned earlier, the biggest statement that could have been made to this flag-burning was no one showing up to protest. He'd have looked the only fool...instead, everyone does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 +3 +4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furd Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 I find it ironic that those that keep pounding the "freedom of speech" angle are those that are ripping on Balla for simply expressing his stance on the subject. In fact, I'd call it beyond ironic; I'd call it pure hypocrisy. Balla (and others) has advocated violence against a "peaceful" (his word) protester and Balla has even wished for his death. He deserves to be ripped on in that respect. It would be hypocritical only if I (or anyone else) supported a flag burner's statement that anyone who opposes flag burning should die, or at least get his/her ass beat. As far as I'm concerned, Balla is "free" to express how he feels about the topic. (Which has nothing to do with the First Amendment, by the way.) But when he adopts a position that others think is unreasonable or outlandish or inexplicable, he should expect criticsim. (See Mendenhall, R.) And as adults, we should be able to heatedly criticize expression, and accept heated criticism of ours, without resorting to violence, don't you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Balla (and others) has advocated violence against a "peaceful" (his word) protester and Balla has even wished for his death. He deserves to be ripped on in that respect. It would be hypocritical only if I (or anyone else) supported a flag burner's statement that anyone who opposes flag burning should die, or at least get his/her ass beat. As far as I'm concerned, Balla is "free" to express how he feels about the topic. (Which has nothing to do with the First Amendment, by the way.) But when he adopts a position that others think is unreasonable or outlandish or inexplicable, he should expect criticsim. (See Mendenhall, R.) And as adults, we should be able to heatedly criticize expression, and accept heated criticism of ours, without resorting to violence, don't you think? Alright, let me pose the question: Balla, do you really think this dumasz should DIE for his actions? Get his asz beat? I think I know the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Shouldn't burning the flag fall under the definition of "hate speech"? Some of the law types would have a better understanding of this, but it's my understanding that hate speech is specifically protected under the 1st amendment unless it meets some rather stringent criteria and most of the hate speech cases are overturned in court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Alright, let me pose the question: Balla, do you really think this dumasz should DIE for his actions? Get his asz beat? I think I know the answer. He really said it and based on the tone of his posts I have no reason to assume he was being sarcastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBalla Posted May 13, 2011 Author Share Posted May 13, 2011 Alright, let me pose the question: Balla, do you really think this dumasz should DIE for his actions? Get his asz beat? I think I know the answer. Sarcastic. I was suprised he didn't get his ar$$ beat. I would have been fine with that if he did. I certainly think that in this case, they should be investigated for possible terrorist ties. Again, I don't know what should be a suitable, legal punishment. Fines, small time? Maybe send them to wash clothes, clean latrines, dishes etc for our troops in Iraq? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBalla Posted May 13, 2011 Author Share Posted May 13, 2011 I did say it, I said if they weren't dead they weren't treated harsh enough. Reality - in this case. Dude burning the flag in protest to the killing of Bin Laden....ehhh I don't know, deportation, guantanamo, jail time? Not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furd Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Shouldn't burning the flag fall under the definition of "hate speech"? "Hate speech", in short, is certain speech directed against a person or group of persons based on a characteristic of that person, such as race or religion. Who is burning the flag directed against? Who really knows, or cares? But in any event, its not hate speech.. And you should know that the First Amendment precludes the regulation of so-called hate speech, in and of itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_gop_liars Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Balla and H8 at dinner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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