whomper Posted July 11, 2011 Author Share Posted July 11, 2011 Its hard to believe that Jeter, who doesnt hit many dingers, got his 3000th on a HR. If this was a single we would never have had this conversation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiegie Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 (edited) Its hard to believe that Jeter, who doesnt hit many dingers, got his 3000th on a HR. If this was a single we would never have had this conversation Not necessarily true. Suppose Jeter hit a ball deep in the hole between short-stop and third. The SS is able to field the ball, but then ill-advisedly tries to throw Jeter out at first. Not only does the ball arrive way too late, but it is overthrown and ends up in the stands. Jeter goes to second on a single plus an error and some lucky fan in the stands along the first-base line catches the ball. Edited July 11, 2011 by wiegie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddy Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Not necessarily true. Suppose Jeter hit a ball deep in the hole between short-stop and third. The SS is able to field the ball, but then ill-advisedly tries to throw Jeter out at first. Not only does the ball arrive way too late, but it is overthrown and ends up in the stands. Jeter goes to second on a single plus an error and some lucky fan in the stands along the first-base line catches the ball. Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Not necessarily true. Suppose Jeter hit a ball deep in the hole between short-stop and third. The SS is able to field the ball, but then ill-advisedly tries to throw Jeter out at first. Not only does the ball arrive way too late, but it is overthrown and ends up in the stands. Jeter goes to second on a single plus an error and some lucky fan in the stands along the first-base line catches the ball. Which, of course, is even less likely than him hitting a homer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bier Meister Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 check swing..... bat into stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackass Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 I think it was purely a matter of being caught up in the moment. Dude is a lifelong Yankee fan, catches Jeter's historic homer, fans are going nuts, club officials whisk him away....I doubt he even had a minute to even think about what it would be worth, and just blurted out what he felt (at the time) was the right thing to do: "Of course I plan on giving it to Mr. Jeter". With all the hoopla and positive vibe going on, he probably felt that was his only option. Was he really going to say "I plan on auctioning to the highest bidder", or, "I'll sell it back to Jeter for $200K"? I do think there is a better than 50/50 chance he woke up the next day regretting his decision. We'll see if Mr. Jeter is as giving as the fan. He was interviewed on a talk show, and asked if a large sum of money would be important to him....and he let it be known that he does have close to $100K in student loans. Jeter should take care of them for him. this is exactly what happened. he was a young kid, 23 years old, probably got pressured, didn't think what the ball could be worth, felt he was "doing the right thing", maybe thought there would be a public backlash if he kept the ball, or his girlfriend would think he's a greedy a-hole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 this is exactly what happened. he was a young kid, 23 years old, probably got pressured, didn't think what the ball could be worth, felt he was "doing the right thing", maybe thought there would be a public backlash if he kept the ball, or his girlfriend would think he's a greedy a-hole. 200K means you can get a big upgrade at girlfiend anyways . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Hell no. Hand over $100K or more just to be a swell guy? Maybe if I was already set for life - like oh btw these guys are - I would. As a regular guy who could really use the coin? No freaking way. My question, however, is if he kept it and planned to sell it later, how would anyone know that is "the" ball? Regardless, I'm glad this is in the non-sports forum where it belongs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 this is exactly what happened. he was a young kid, 23 years old, probably got pressured, didn't think what the ball could be worth, felt he was "doing the right thing", maybe thought there would be a public backlash if he kept the ball, or his girlfriend would think he's a greedy a-hole. Yep. I bet he felt intense pressure, didn't think, and folded like a cheap tent, and is kicking himself now. 200K means you can get a big upgrade at girlfiend anyways . . . lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Hell no. Hand over $100K or more just to be a swell guy? Maybe if I was already set for life - like oh btw these guys are - I would. As a regular guy who could really use the coin? No freaking way. My question, however, is if he kept it and planned to sell it later, how would anyone know that is "the" ball? Regardless, I'm glad this is in the non-sports forum where it belongs. I'm guessing they're marked somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 0ne Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 I'm guessing they're marked somehow. This is correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 "Lopez didn’t do the “right thing,” he didn’t act “unselfish,” and he’s certainly not a “hero." He’s a kid who made a massive mistake, on no less than two fronts. If Lopez really wanted to do the “right thing” and be “unselfish” and be a “hero,” he could’ve sold the ball and helped his friends, his family, the world at large. Handing a multi-millionaire a baseball does not a hero make." THIS.. from Swam's link. no way I give that ball back for free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneymakers Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 I have a signed baseball from Jeter. Its an offical all-star game ball from 2001. he signed it Jeter #2 2001 all star game Is it worth more now or do I need to wait to get my 100,000? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 "Lopez didn't do the "right thing," he didn't act "unselfish," and he's certainly not a "hero." He's a kid who made a massive mistake, on no less than two fronts. If Lopez really wanted to do the "right thing" and be "unselfish" and be a "hero," he could've sold the ball and helped his friends, his family, the world at large. Handing a multi-millionaire a baseball does not a hero make." THIS.. from Swam's link. no way I give that ball back for free Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Dick Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 I have a signed baseball from Jeter. Its an offical all-star game ball from 2001. he signed it Jeter #2 2001 all star game Is it worth more now or do I need to wait to get my 100,000? Probably about as valuable as the signed George Brett bat I have that he used for his 3000th hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunning Runt Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 The fan that caught the ball graciously gave it back to Jeter. It was estimated that the ball would have yielded the guy 6 figures. The Yankees have given him below What says the huddle ? Would you have given the ball back ? There is not a chance in hell I would have given it back. In fact, I may have gone on national TV and said "Derek, you make 15 million dollars a year and have for years. You want this ball? Buy it from me". He's been justly rewarded plenty for his efforts. Dude owes Jeter absolutely nothing. You don't get many chances in life to get an opportunity like that. Ya gotta cash in. Sometimes people just get too caught up in the moment. There would have been nothing wrong for him to keep it and cash in. I would have for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muck Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Also, there is no way in h3ll that the IRS doesn't send him an invoice here pretty soon for the $70,000 of "income" he just earned... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted July 12, 2011 Author Share Posted July 12, 2011 Which, of course, is even less likely than him hitting a homer. exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddy Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Not necessarily true. Suppose Jeter hit a ball deep in the hole between short-stop and third. The SS is able to field the ball, but then ill-advisedly tries to throw Jeter out at first. Not only does the ball arrive way too late, but it is overthrown and ends up in the stands. Jeter goes to second on a single plus an error and some lucky fan in the stands along the first-base line catches the ball. Exactly. Which, of course, is even less likely than him hitting a homer. exactly Hey slows....that's the joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted July 12, 2011 Author Share Posted July 12, 2011 Hey slows....that's the joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimC Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Which is greater? a. Derek Jeter's number of hits. b. Number of HGH and steroid injections the Yankees players take during a month. c. Amount of morons and idiots per 3,010 seats at an average Yankee game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTed46 Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 I would have signed the ball before giving it back to Jeter at that price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted July 13, 2011 Author Share Posted July 13, 2011 Christian Lopez might end up wishing he kept that baseball after all. Lopez became more than a footnote to the spectacle of Derek Jeter(notes) getting his 3,000th hit on Saturday at Yankee Stadium by returning the milestone baseball to the New York Yankees shortstop rather than cash it in for a likely six-figure payday. That touched off a debate still raging among fans days later: Would you have given the ball back or sold it to the highest bidder for a payday that was rumored as high as $250,000? For his gesture, Lopez was rewarded by the Yankees with luxury box tickets for the rest of the season (including postseason), along with signed baseballs, bats and spamshirts from Jeter. In addition, Lopez received four premium front-row seats to last Sunday's Yankees-Rays game. Nice haul, right? Sure, but with those generous gifts comes tax liability. As George Harrison once sang for the Beatles, "Let me tell you how it will be; There's one for you, nineteen for me. 'Cause I'm the Taxman." The IRS will likely consider Lopez's gratuities from the Yankees as income, and if so, he could end up having to pay anywhere from $5,000 to $13,000 in taxes, according to the New York Daily News. The New York Times, meanwhile, says the face value of the tickets to the remaining 32 regular-season games at Yankee Stadium are worth anywhere between $44,800 and $73,600. The paper's conservative estimate puts Lopez's tax bill at $14,000. Lopez, however, seems unfazed by these revelations. If the IRS comes calling, he says he'll pay those taxes: "Worse comes to worse, I'll have to pay the taxes," he told the Daily News on Monday. "I'm not going to return the seats. I have a lot of family and friends who will help me out if need be. "The IRS has a job to do, so I'm not going to hold it against them, but it would be cool if they helped me out a little on this." It's unclear from the quote whether the "they" Lopez refers to means the IRS or the Yankees. The IRS could obviously help him out by considering the items he was rewarded as gifts, rather than income. Then he wouldn't owe as much in taxes. But could Derek Jeter or the Yankees also step in and pay the taxes for Lopez? One tax expert the Daily News spoke to made that very suggestion. What a buzzkill. Lopez expressed hope that his parents would help him out with whatever taxes he might owe. But they could rightfully point out that some of that memorabilia — not to mention many of those tickets — could be sold off to cover his expenses. (Lopez might have to do that anyway, telling reporters that he still owes more than $100,000 in student loans.) Lopez being essentially punished for what so many saw as a good deed and selfless act makes for a troubling epilogue to a nice story. But maybe there's still a happy ending to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackass Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Christian Lopez might end up wishing he kept that baseball after all. Lopez became more than a footnote to the spectacle of Derek Jeter(notes) getting his 3,000th hit on Saturday at Yankee Stadium by returning the milestone baseball to the New York Yankees shortstop rather than cash it in for a likely six-figure payday. That touched off a debate still raging among fans days later: Would you have given the ball back or sold it to the highest bidder for a payday that was rumored as high as $250,000? For his gesture, Lopez was rewarded by the Yankees with luxury box tickets for the rest of the season (including postseason), along with signed baseballs, bats and spamshirts from Jeter. In addition, Lopez received four premium front-row seats to last Sunday's Yankees-Rays game. Nice haul, right? Sure, but with those generous gifts comes tax liability. As George Harrison once sang for the Beatles, "Let me tell you how it will be; There's one for you, nineteen for me. 'Cause I'm the Taxman." The IRS will likely consider Lopez's gratuities from the Yankees as income, and if so, he could end up having to pay anywhere from $5,000 to $13,000 in taxes, according to the New York Daily News. The New York Times, meanwhile, says the face value of the tickets to the remaining 32 regular-season games at Yankee Stadium are worth anywhere between $44,800 and $73,600. The paper's conservative estimate puts Lopez's tax bill at $14,000. Lopez, however, seems unfazed by these revelations. If the IRS comes calling, he says he'll pay those taxes: "Worse comes to worse, I'll have to pay the taxes," he told the Daily News on Monday. "I'm not going to return the seats. I have a lot of family and friends who will help me out if need be. "The IRS has a job to do, so I'm not going to hold it against them, but it would be cool if they helped me out a little on this." It's unclear from the quote whether the "they" Lopez refers to means the IRS or the Yankees. The IRS could obviously help him out by considering the items he was rewarded as gifts, rather than income. Then he wouldn't owe as much in taxes. But could Derek Jeter or the Yankees also step in and pay the taxes for Lopez? One tax expert the Daily News spoke to made that very suggestion. What a buzzkill. Lopez expressed hope that his parents would help him out with whatever taxes he might owe. But they could rightfully point out that some of that memorabilia — not to mention many of those tickets — could be sold off to cover his expenses. (Lopez might have to do that anyway, telling reporters that he still owes more than $100,000 in student loans.) Lopez being essentially punished for what so many saw as a good deed and selfless act makes for a troubling epilogue to a nice story. But maybe there's still a happy ending to come. Well, on the bright side, he still has his penis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrip Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Nice to see the guy get some help: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-07-13/j...r-modell-s.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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