gbpfan1231 Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 There are just a small amount of people who care about the millions of recently lost or sent jobs to other countries. Some people question why we spent so much money killing two Arabs. One being a boogyman himself. Have you ever seen the Iraqii airforce? Some question why the richest country in the world can't provide healthcare like other peaceful nations. That must be where the spending is coming in. We spend more money on our military than 4 or 5 countries below us combined, if not more, so I guess that leaves no money for doctor visits. A few people who aren't shareholders question why we gave so much money to corporations that couldn't understand this self reliance you are referring too, while these guys paid less in taxes than teenagers working at McDonald's over the summer. I guess this is what bothers me about you guys always spouting off about what you just wrote - I don't think anybody on here is saying that we should NOT cut defense spending. I also don't think anybody on here says it is OK that GE paid little or no taxes. These should ALL happen along with cutting a crap load of spending!! Do you have a specific example of one of these veil rich guys that actually paid less taxes than a teenager in actual dollars paid????? Let me guess - if you own a home do you deduct your mortgage interest when you do your taxes? Are you not taking advantage of a legit tax regulation that lowers the taxes YOU pay? That is what these evil rich do but it sure seems to make them evil while you go about your business villifying them. Again, do most people here (if not all) think there are too many loopholes - yes I bet they do - you are doing the same thing they are just in smaller numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditkaless Wonders Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 (edited) I thought a nation under God's protection wouldn't need to spend money on defense as if they were about to be attacked by God. He can be a vengeful God. I say we scrap the missle defense shield and start working on the fire and brimestone shield. At the very least we should make the missle defense shield dual use so that it can address Heaven based brimestone attacks. Edited October 15, 2011 by Ditkaless Wonders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosberg34 Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 (edited) If anyone thinks these Flea Bagger protests are peaceful, read this to see where all of this is going. Escalating violence in the streets, people. When the left talks about "peace", they only mean it when they are in power. And let's clear the air here if anyone has any doubt - these Flea Bagger protests are from the left and have nothing to do with conservative principles at all. So let's not pretend that they are non-political or anything like the Tea Party. Day of global Occupy protests gets under wayIn Rome, demonstrators torch cars, smash shop windows as people around the world urged to 'rise up' Where do you all think this is headed? What is the end result? I don't think this stops at just Wall Street or the Bankers. There is more going on behind the scenes than just getting back at Wall Street. These flea-baggin protesters are nothing more than tools/pawns in a much larger game - AND THEY DON'T EVEN REALIZE IT! What a bunch of fools. Edited October 15, 2011 by tosberg34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 If my math is correct, and it rarely is, that is a slight exageration. Looks closer to the 24 countries below us combined. Not that your point or observation is any less salient. I loaded it into Excel but you are quite correct. When I pasted it the first time, I missed the #2 country (China) so it is in fact the 19 below us, not 30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbpfan1231 Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 I loaded it into Excel but you are quite correct. When I pasted it the first time, I missed the #2 country (China) so it is in fact the 19 below us, not 30. Ursa Fox News Majoris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Ursa Fox News Majoris Not at all - I issued a timely correction. Good luck with Fox doing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 I'm all in for anarchy. I'm bored... and broke. I heard King Kullen, America's first supermarket is hiring part timers with no benefits for 8 bucks an hour. FYI, King Kullen is now Long Islands largest employer. People are pissed? Go figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbpfan1231 Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 I'm all in for anarchy. I'm bored... and broke. I heard King Kullen, America's first supermarket is hiring part timers with no benefits for 8 bucks an hour. FYI, King Kullen is now Long Islands largest employer. People are pissed? Go figure. You are bored and broke and some employer is hiring and you are angry at this employer? I guess I don't understand? $8*40 = $320 per week - last I checked $320 is more than $0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted October 15, 2011 Author Share Posted October 15, 2011 I guess this is what bothers me about you guys always spouting off about what you just wrote - I don't think anybody on here is saying that we should NOT cut defense spending. I also don't think anybody on here says it is OK that GE paid little or no taxes. These should ALL happen along with cutting a crap load of spending!! Do you have a specific example of one of these veil rich guys that actually paid less taxes than a teenager in actual dollars paid????? Let me guess - if you own a home do you deduct your mortgage interest when you do your taxes? Are you not taking advantage of a legit tax regulation that lowers the taxes YOU pay? That is what these evil rich do but it sure seems to make them evil while you go about your business villifying them. Again, do most people here (if not all) think there are too many loopholes - yes I bet they do - you are doing the same thing they are just in smaller numbers. I'm just listing complaints so if anyone says, "These people have no reason to be out there." it's covered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted October 15, 2011 Author Share Posted October 15, 2011 Global day of action marching right now: http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbpfan1231 Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 I'm just listing complaints so if anyone says, "These people have no reason to be out there." it's covered. OK - my bad. But you forgot some.... Spending Entitlements Solyndra Fast and Furious just trying to help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSab Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 They got the gun, we got the numbers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosberg34 Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Global day of action marching right now: http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution Ahh...more like the global day of violence. I hope Dems keep supporting these flea baggers. That only helps the conservatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted October 15, 2011 Author Share Posted October 15, 2011 (edited) Protesters just went into the Citibank and closed their accounts. The police are currently not letting these people leave the bank until they are arrested per witnesses on the live stream. FloridaMom: and what the witness said.FloridaMom: a group of protesters who had citibank accounts, went into the store and closed their accounts, when they came out, they were stopped by police, drug back into the bank, and are being arrested. FloridaMom: I don't know what charges they are thinking of. FloridaMom: I hope some of the NYC judges get tired of this and start speaking up though or dismissing cases. mysticw0lf: the bank...just did themselves in... Edited October 15, 2011 by WaterMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosberg34 Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Not my quote but a very good point: How about "occupy a food pantry or soup kitchen or Big Brother Big Sisters? Rebuild an inner city park instead of destroying existing ones? All this energy could be put to useful purpose. The only good that comes out of this is the really turning independents off to the democrats.That last time the liberal children went this nuts they elected Nixon to two terms. Nixon! That is how bad you can turn off the voters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosberg34 Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Protesters just went into the Citibank and closed their accounts. The police are currently not letting these people leave the bank until they are arrested per witnesses on the live stream. That you actually believe all that. Oh, yeah, they were just doing nothing and the police just arrested them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted October 15, 2011 Author Share Posted October 15, 2011 Wow the streets are packed with witnesses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditkaless Wonders Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 They got the gun, we got the numbers After you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gdawg Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Right, so instead of sitting at the capital, or marching on big lobbiest... these people occupy a private park, and ruin the day to day business of people who live and do business around that park? Your boy is the POTUS, your boys creating the fannie and freddie mess, your boys made us 14+ trillion in debt. Who is you boogieman? The 2009-10 congress? That was you. The problem is spending. Worry about yourself. What do you care what someone else's income is? Self reliance. Grow up. LOL, Obama is my boy? Clearly reading comprehension is not your forte. I am a libertarian, I despise Barack Obama. In all candor he is the worst president of my lifetime, and that includes Nixon, Carter, and GWB. I believe in liberty, I believe in liberty for all; the more freedom, the better. I despise the statism of George W. Bush and the corporatism of Barrack Obama, I damn them both. Things fall apart, the center does not hold. This country WILL fail, as the political will to do that which MUST be done does not exist. Both parties will continue to kick the can down the road until there is no more road, and we are just about out of road. Prepare for The Reckoning, it is coming. Think 2008 was bad? We ain't seen nothing yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 (edited) I think the tea party movement (sans the repub hijackers) is better directed. . Oh most definitely. But,the primary factor that makes the tea party movement better directed is the ease it was hijacked and effectively whored out, although most likely for it's 15 minutes of fame, by the republican party. There is no chance in hell the the occupy movement gets co-opted by the dems to the same degree. The political opportunity with hippies in parks with bongos as an effective political platform simply isn't there. The tea party movement was more politically directed from the get go. It's not like the occupy movement waited for "their guy" to get out of the Whitehouse to suddenly get outraged and start protesting. Edited October 16, 2011 by bushwacked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 The tea party movement was more politically directed from the get go. It's not like the occupy movement waited for "their guy" to get out of the Whitehouse to suddenly get outraged and start protesting. That's true. The anti-Wall Street protest movement has been there since the 2008 crash but unseen. IMO, it's been waiting for it's supposed Messiah to swing the pendulum back towards "the people" and away from Wall Street. There is absolutely no sign of that happening - Wall Street continues to grow fatter and fatter while the vast majority continues to struggle with fear, uncertainty and doubt - and, having waited patiently for two and a half years, the Occupy movement and the enormous number of people who support it have finally given up on the balance of power shifting at all. I read something this morning that resonated - "when the people feel democracy has failed them, they will find other ways to make their feelings known". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyGal2011 Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 What is it called when you are paid to protest? Or you get the day off to go march with your union? I forget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosberg34 Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 That's true. The anti-Wall Street protest movement has been there since the 2008 crash but unseen. IMO, it's been waiting for it's supposed Messiah to swing the pendulum back towards "the people" and away from Wall Street. There is absolutely no sign of that happening - Wall Street continues to grow fatter and fatter while the vast majority continues to struggle with fear, uncertainty and doubt - and, having waited patiently for two and a half years, the Occupy movement and the enormous number of people who support it have finally given up on the balance of power shifting at all. I read something this morning that resonated - "when the people feel democracy has failed them, they will find other ways to make their feelings known". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyGal2011 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Leave Brittny Alone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditkaless Wonders Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Leave Brittny Alone! Is that fellow really a grad student at Columbia? I wonder in what discipline? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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