Ground_Chuck Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Brewers beat writer is twittering that Ryan Braun will not be suspended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Brewers beat writer is twittering that Ryan Braun will not be suspended. Crawl on ESPN saying suspension has been lifted by arbitration panel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Just a side benefit of having herpes I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennykravitz2004 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Source says MLB is livid and is considering options and other comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 He is still a cheater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbimm Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I love the fact that MLB has always been behind the 3rd party arbiter until now. Now since it went against them they are furious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I love the fact that MLB has always been behind the 3rd party arbiter until now. Now since it went against them they are furious. Agreed, though it was the chain of custody that Braun's team prevailed against, not the test itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Dick Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 If anything, Braun moves down on cheat sheets. Now that he's been caught and presumably not on the juice anymore, can he still hit with power? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 He did offer to submit to a DNA test which was refused by MLB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiegie Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 He did offer to submit to a DNA test which was refused by MLB. well, what would a DNA test prove? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 well, what would a DNA test prove? That it was Braun's sample. The appeal involved that the sample was not handled properly and may have been switched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 well, what would a DNA test prove? open an entire different can of worms if DNA showed that it was NOT his sample...in a certain sense I am not surprised they didn't do a DNA test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 open an entire different can of worms if DNA showed that it was NOT his sample...in a certain sense I am not surprised they didn't do a DNA test. So they coulda found out it was Prince Fielders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbpfan1231 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Agreed, though it was the chain of custody that Braun's team prevailed against, not the test itself. This does not mean much.... they may have known that the chain of custody was the best legal fight to use to make it overturned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 This does not mean much.... they may have known that the chain of custody was the best legal fight to use to make it overturned. Exactly - they didn't show he was innocent, they showed a potentially suspect chain of custody. In other words, doubt, though whether a reasonable one...........opinions differ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebartender Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 If anything, Braun moves down on cheat sheets. Now that he's been caught and presumably not on the juice anymore, can he still hit with power? I thought I read that he passed around 25 test in his career already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) You can see his news conference Edited February 25, 2012 by tazinib1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunday Couch Potatoe Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Brewers beat writer is twittering that Ryan Braun will not be suspended. Manny's jealous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAYER Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 If anything, Braun moves down on cheat sheets. Now that he's been caught and presumably not on the juice anymore, can he still hit with power? Agree he is done move him down your sheets. especially in Philly and HOTD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furd Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Exactly - they didn't show he was innocent, they showed a potentially suspect chain of custody. In other words, doubt, though whether a reasonable one...........opinions differ. Braun got caught. There is no reasonable difference of opinion there. The samples were not tampered with. They did not degrade. Braun's defense knew that, so they didn't bother to argue either. Braun’s sample was collected at the ballpark after the Milwaukee Brewers’ first game of the 2011 postseason. The drug tester said that because no nearby FedEx center was open, he took the sample home and stored it in his basement for the weekend. This was not a violation of protocol but rather the preferred approach, according to Travis T. Tygart, the chief executive of the United States Anti-Doping Agency. Any baseball player should prefer to have his sample in the custody of a trained professional — one agreed to by his union — than to have it sitting abandoned in some FedEx facility over the weekend, Tygart said. That way, the urine collector can be cross-examined about the chain of custody: What was the temperature of the basement? Did anyone else come into contact with the sample? Lawyers for Major League Baseball argued there was no evidence that Braun’s sealed sample was tampered with before it reached a Montreal laboratory. And Braun apparently did not prove tampering had occurred. Nor, apparently, did he argue that the sample did not belong to him. Braun also did not challenge the science behind the positive test, Tygart said. Could the sample have degraded over the 48 hours in question to produce a false positive? “To say it degraded and created synthetic testosterone is contrary to logic and science,” Tygart said. link Braun's whole "woe is me" schtick after the fact is laughable. What a dick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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