White lightning Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Denver Broncos QB Peyton Manning has been impressed with WR Eric Decker during offseason workouts and called him the 'veteran' of the receiving core. Manning and the coaching staff are coming up with ways to move Decker around in order to use him in multiple ways this year. Huddle Up: Listen to this stuff, people. Back in the summer of 2009 Manning praised an unknown receiver named Austin Collie. The kid caught 15 touchdowns in the next 25 games... I know it's early, but I'm in a 10 man PPR redraft league that starts 3 WR, so I'm always looking for a possession reciever in the 4-6th rounds. If the Manning and Decker chemistry progresses through pre-season do you guys think he's worth a 4th/5th round pick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 I've always been of the opinion that no player = any other player & try to judge them based more on their situation and skills rather than trying to relate them to someone else. This especially irks me during NFL draft time when all these players coming out are "the next Peyton Manning" or the next Adrian Peterson." That said, Decker has certainly shown in the past that he has the skills to succeed in a Manning-led offense and IF Manning is anywhere close to his old self then I'd expect nothing less than a decent amount of work coming Decker's way. I'm not so sure that the offensive style of Fox will produce the same aerial assault as there was in Indianapolis, but Decker's certainly worth a grab as a WR 3 with upside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexgaddis Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 he is much more talented than Austin freakin Collie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 If he's Austin Collie, the who is Demarius Thomas = I'll be watching how DEN offense unravels, because Thomas could be an interesting option as a keeper at WR3 for me (to go with Megatron and Fitz). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargerz Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 he is much more talented than Austin freakin Collie I agree. Decker may be more like Reggie Wayne in the Broncos new offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 I'm sooooo glad I have Decker (and Peyton) in my 16 team dynasty league. I had a few trade offers for Decker prior to last season and before he showed his potential. Admittedly I didn't know much about him then but the sheer volume of trade offers for him made me realize he might be worth holding onto. Glad I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 I agree with Rajn in that nobody equals anybody else, basically. But, if you put a gun to my head, and I had to put a label on the Broncos WR's, in terms of who they compare to from Peyton's Indy glory days, I'd say it looks more like this.... Harrison = Thomas (not in size or anything, but just in that he's the primary guy). And, I'm talking a young version of Harrison, when he was clearly #1. Wayne = Decker (He's the "1A" to Thomas being #1) Collie/Stokley = Who knows... Could be Caldwell, or maybe even Matt Willis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorcher Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 I think he will have much more of an impact than Ray Caruth did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Pimp Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 I agree with Rajn in that nobody equals anybody else, basically. But, if you put a gun to my head, and I had to put a label on the Broncos WR's, in terms of who they compare to from Peyton's Indy glory days, I'd say it looks more like this.... Harrison = Thomas (not in size or anything, but just in that he's the primary guy). And, I'm talking a young version of Harrison, when he was clearly #1. Wayne = Decker (He's the "1A" to Thomas being #1) Collie/Stokley = Who knows... Could be Caldwell, or maybe even Matt Willis? How about Stokley=Stokley? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice1 Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Thomas is the WR you should be targeting. He has a better skill set. I like Decker okay but the hype machine is big right now because he and Manning are playing catch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wpob Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 The hype machine will be huge and I beleive worth it. I think Decker is a better WR than Thomas and does not have the injury bug Thomas has. I have offered another owner the farm (well, a small farm) for Decker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJV Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Decker can be had for much cheaper and will be better to own in a ppr league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAUgrad Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 I agree with Rajn in that nobody equals anybody else, basically. But, if you put a gun to my head, and I had to put a label on the Broncos WR's, in terms of who they compare to from Peyton's Indy glory days, I'd say it looks more like this.... Harrison = Thomas (not in size or anything, but just in that he's the primary guy). And, I'm talking a young version of Harrison, when he was clearly #1. Wayne = Decker (He's the "1A" to Thomas being #1) Collie/Stokley = Who knows... Could be Caldwell, or maybe even Matt Willis? This is about right. Decker was fantastic for about 3-4 games last year with Orton at the helm. I expect even more with Manning. And Thomas is a freak who should also have a fantastic year. As the ff draft approaches, these two will skyrocket up almost everyone's draft board. If you want one, your going to have to draft for one much higher than you think. I would be shocked if either WR were available to be had as a WR3 in any redraft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 (edited) The hype machine will be huge and I beleive worth it. I think Decker is a better WR than Thomas and does not have the injury bug Thomas has. I have offered another owner the farm (well, a small farm) for Decker. Both have had injury issues. Decker was hurt coming out of college and then had the knee injury at the end of last year. Putting all of that aside (let's assume for a second that they can both stay relatively healthy, and have productive careers), I'd say their values are fairly comparable. Two totally different players, but value-wise, not that different, particularly in PPR leagues. Thomas is the more explosive player who, as we saw in the Pittsburgh playoff game, can be a game-changer. He's able to make big plays with his speed. Decker, meanwhile, is a superb athelete in his own right... A three-sport standout in high school (think of him as a poor man's Joe Mauer), Decker has some of the best hands in the NFL. He simply doesn't drop passes, or at least it is very rare that he does. So, like Thomas, he's also able to make big plays, but moreso with his hands than his feet. Again, assuming they can stay healthy (which is a fairly hefty assumption), I like Thomas as the player with more potential, but not by much. In PPR leagues, I think it's even closer, as I think Decker is the more likely of the two to be the "go-to" WR on third down, and therefore get more balls thrown his way. Edited April 20, 2012 by Gopher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice1 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 The hype machine will be huge and I beleive worth it. I think Decker is a better WR than Thomas and does not have the injury bug Thomas has. I have offered another owner the farm (well, a small farm) for Decker. Decker is a good prospect, of course so is Early Doucet. Buyer beware. I see nothing that makes me think he is close to Thomas in ability. Not knocking him but don't see the speed or vertical ability to separate at an elite level. Decker could be really good but not a player to overpay for just because Manning is the guy. Thomas on the other hand could be the next Andre with his skill set. Thomas has rare skills which we see in only a few very elite WR's. No doubt health has been an issue but players with that size and speed can be counted on one hand. He is a player to target today as all the news has been about Decker who in my view is not close to Thomas in raw ability. Manning is going love this guys ability IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White lightning Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 Decker can be had for much cheaper and will be better to own in a ppr league. I totally agree. I think Thomas will cost a late 3rd round pick by August. While you will be able to get Decker in the 6th for comparable value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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