CaptainHook Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 This is what the NFL wants . . . defensive players taking guys out at the knee instead of anywhere near the head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Trick Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I tend to regard injury-prone players as guys who are always out with some sort of pull or strain, or have a body part (knee, shoulder, ankle, hammy) that just is always bothering them. This, a current player that comes to mind is Miles Austin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Are we seriously debating whether Gronkowski is injury-prone? This just in: HE IS! Have you paid attention to the last two seasons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelsosi Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 This is what the NFL wants . . . defensive players taking guys out at the knee instead of anywhere near the head. Sadly, this is true. Defensive players (former and active) have been warning of this all year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Sadly, this is true. Defensive players (former and active) have been warning of this all year While it sucks to have your knee taken out it is the lesser of two evils...it's absolutely sad the shape that many former players are in due to concussions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 (edited) While it sucks to have your knee taken out it is the lesser of two evils...it's absolutely sad the shape that many former players are in due to concussions. I just think there is a clear line between a guy launching himself and leading with the crown of his helmet and this bullshit they are calling now where any contact to the helmet is a penalty. Even when players duck, are shorter than the defender, or it might've been somewhere in the vicinity of the helmet it's still called. It's absolutely ridiculous. At some point, it's football, and you knew the risk that you might get contact to the head . . . that's why you're wearing a fucking helmet. If you don't want to take the risk that you might get some contact to the head, do something else with your life. Edited December 9, 2013 by CaptainHook 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I just think there is a clear line between a guy launching himself and leading with the crown of his helmet and this bullshit they are calling now where any contact to the helmet is a penalty. Even when players duck, are shorter than the defender, or it might've been somewhere in the vicinity of the helmet it's still called. It's absolutely ridiculous. At some point, it's football, and you knew the risk that you might get contact to the head . . . that's why you're wearing a fucking helmet. If you don't want to take the risk that you might get some contact to the head, do something else with your life. OR if you don't want to play under the rules as they are now go do something else or watch another sport...it's really that easy, we all have choices....but it is what it is with the rules and the reason$ for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 But some of these penalties are completely unavoidable or even worse, they LOOK like there might have been helmet contact, but replays show there was NONE. Yet they can impose a 15 yard penalty with no review? These are game changing penalties. The NBA reviews if fouls are flagrant or not . . . but the NFL can't look at these game altering plays and get them right? Then again, if you saw what that ass hat Jeff Triplett did today on a review, you'd realize they'll still fuck it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 (edited) But some of these penalties are completely unavoidable or even worse, they LOOK like there might have been helmet contact, but replays show there was NONE. Yet they can impose a 15 yard penalty with no review? These are game changing penalties. The NBA reviews if fouls are flagrant or not . . . but the NFL can't look at these game altering plays and get them right? Then again, if you saw what that ass hat Jeff Triplett did today on a review, you'd realize they'll still fuck it up. Officials F stuff up all the time...hate to say it but it's part of the game...would I like to see some that aren't reviewable be so? Sure, but as long as officials are human there will be errors in officiating...just like there always has been Edited December 9, 2013 by keggerz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I just don't see why it can't be fixed, i.e. reviewed, when the technology is readily available. Why have review at all according to your logic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I just don't see why it can't be fixed, i.e. reviewed, when the technology is readily available. Why have review at all according to your logic? They've continually adapted and implemented things, and I see that continuing. Especially as technology advances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajh2 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 You can fix an ankle or a knee.... you can not fix a brain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 You can fix an ankle or a knee.... you can not fix a brain. THIS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delicious_bass Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 (edited) But some of these penalties are completely unavoidable or even worse, they LOOK like there might have been helmet contact, but replays show there was NONE. Yet they can impose a 15 yard penalty with no review? These are game changing penalties. The NBA reviews if fouls are flagrant or not . . . but the NFL can't look at these game altering plays and get them right? Then again, if you saw what that ass hat Jeff Triplett did today on a review, you'd realize they'll still fuck it up. Didnt he screw up hugh previously, too? Was he the one with the coin flip snafu? ETA: nevermind. That was someone else. Luckett? Edited December 9, 2013 by Delicious_bass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Didnt he screw up hugh previously, too? Was he the one with the coin flip snafu? No. But threw the flag in an OL's eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajh2 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 It is official, Gronk tears ACL and MCL: http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/10108168/rob-gronkowski-new-england-patriots-tears-acl-mcl-knee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I've gotta wonder, how often are defenders shooting for knees, or just low in general, now just to make a point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustOfBeenDrunk Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 No. But threw the flag in an OL's eyes. Yes and then the OL got penalize when he responded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 No, it's just semantics. But for non-fantasy purposes, I hate so see a guy who just has buzzard's luck get tarred with the "injury prone" brush. I'm not familiar with their injury issues but both Bradford and Locker were being described in that way by Mike Mayock on a reacent TNF game. He was saying they cannot stay healthy and their teams need to find a starting QB that can. He didn't use the injury prone term, but made it sound like recent injuries and games missed mean is it likely in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 But some of these penalties are completely unavoidable or even worse, they LOOK like there might have been helmet contact, but replays show there was NONE. Yet they can impose a 15 yard penalty with no review? These are game changing penalties. The NBA reviews if fouls are flagrant or not . . . but the NFL can't look at these game altering plays and get them right? Then again, if you saw what that ass hat Jeff Triplett did today on a review, you'd realize they'll still fuck it up. 15 yard penalties, spot foul for PI are called all the time in games, with just as severe or worse circumstances, and could be argued as being just as inconsistent. Should they be reviewable as well? There was a blow the head called in NE-HOU last week that seemed ridiculous as the player had no intent to hit Brady, but made contact as another defender drove Brady backwards. Total BS call in many ways, but do we have review and overturn based on intent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Yes and then the OL got penalize when he responded Orlando Brown of the Browns, if I recall the penalty was for removing his helmet. Notice how after that the flags are generally thrown low towards the ground now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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