darin3 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 (edited) Let me spell this out... You have a case that happened TWENTY years ago (hi, inflation) in which the party involved was not convicted of anything in the criminal sense. It was after the fact in a civil case that net the families of the deceased a settled-on amount of money.... which, again, should hold absolutely ZERO bearing in this discussion based on the amount of time that has passed to start out with... never mind talking about court-mandated restitution versus settlement amounts. Two completely different things. And not sure why the comparison has to be with OJ Simpson's case. Like, what? How about you find another similar case with similar results if you want to complain about the compensation. Relating it to some class action lawsuit against Red Bull? Wut? If the $55M is going to be reduced, why do you all care so much? Yes, it will be appealed. Yes, it will be settled out of court for far less. Maybe then you can start comparing it to the OJ Simpson debacle but even then I would fail to see similarities. Edited March 9, 2016 by darin3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenzal rhomb Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Not sure what OJ SImpson and your overuse of Red Bull have to do with anything. Yet another dumb post. wow - you are a dope. Civil settlement in both cases, dollar value versus the offense and suffering . Youre f in hopelessly idiotic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 (edited) Let me spell this out... You have a case that happened TWENTY years ago (hi, inflation) in which the party involved was not convicted of anything in the criminal sense. It was after the fact in a civil case that net the families of the deceased a settled-on amount of money.... which, again, should hold absolutely ZERO bearing in this discussion based on the amount of time that has passed to start out with... never mind talking about court-mandated restitution versus settlement amounts. Two completely different things. And not sure why the comparison has to be with OJ Simpson's case. Like, what? How about you find another similar case with similar results if you want to complain about the compensation. Relating it to some class action lawsuit against Red Bull? Wut? If the $55M is going to be reduced, why do you all care so much? Yes, it will be appealed. Yes, it will be settled out of court for far less. Maybe then you can start comparing it to the OJ Simpson debacle but even then I would fail to see similarities. Didn't take much of a search... Jury Awards Lake Forest Couple $5 Million for Son's Wrongful Death at Care Facility An Orange County jury awarded $5 million in damages today to a Lake Forest couple whose 15-year-old disabled son died at a Mission Viejo live-in care facility in 2012 after staff failed to give him his anti- seizure medication or try to revive him with CPR. Five million for a son's life vs 55 million for the Andrews case. Again, I have no problem at all with Andrews winning or those at fault getting hammered for a whopping sum. Just simply making the argument that the award is inequitable to what many get for dealing with much worse. ETA: That's also not to say that Andrews doesn't deserve whatever she can get either... Edited March 9, 2016 by rajncajn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 wow - you are a dope. Civil settlement in both cases, dollar value versus the offense and suffering . Youre f in hopelessly idiotic Yeah I'm the idiot. Comparing a wrongful death with an invasion of privacy and Red Bull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 (edited) Didn't take much of a search... Jury Awards Lake Forest Couple $5 Million for Son's Wrongful Death at Care Facility Five million for a son's life vs 55 million for the Andrews case. Again, I have no problem at all with Andrews winning or those at fault getting hammered for a whopping sum. Just simply making the argument that the award is inequitable to what many get for dealing with much worse. ETA: That's also not to say that Andrews doesn't deserve whatever she can get either... I think we're fundamentally saying the same thing here. I just find it odd that someone would bring up the O.J. Simpson case and some lame crap about Red Bull. The three subjects couldn't be further from one another. Totally agree that in many cases people - like the story you link - get absolutely shafted. But for someone to come and compare it to the O.J. Simpson case and Red Bull is just asinine. Obviously some folks have had one too many Red Bulls.... probably mixed with vodka. Edit: I remember that case you linked. Horrible And: As horrible as that - and I suppose, the O.J. Simpson thing 20 years ago - was, you just can't compare the results from a monetary standpoint. Are they unfair? Sure, on the surface. But there are unfortunately other things "at play" when you are talking about a celebrity. Namely, earning power. Edited March 9, 2016 by darin3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BA Baracus Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Yeah I'm the idiot. Comparing a wrongful death with an invasion of privacy and Red Bull. That's essentially his point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Had something happen at a hotel a while back that seemed strange and I even questioned the front desk staff. But in light of this case it is kind of scary. For some reason I have a real hard time with those magnetic keys, they're always crapping out when I'm at a hotel. One time I went to the desk to get new keys, told them the problem, gave the room number and they started making new keys. I asked "aren't you going to ask for some ID, or check my name or something?" They were like "no we trust you", maybe they remembered me from earlier when I checked in. I thought "heck I guess I could get them to make me a key to any room." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 ^ This is a better post than the alternative of there being a video of stevegrab nekkid and doing his hair. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 I think we're fundamentally saying the same thing here. I just find it odd that someone would bring up the O.J. Simpson case and some lame crap about Red Bull. The three subjects couldn't be further from one another. Totally agree that in many cases people - like the story you link - get absolutely shafted. But for someone to come and compare it to the O.J. Simpson case and Red Bull is just asinine. Obviously some folks have had one too many Red Bulls.... probably mixed with vodka. Edit: I remember that case you linked. Horrible And: As horrible as that - and I suppose, the O.J. Simpson thing 20 years ago - was, you just can't compare the results from a monetary standpoint. Are they unfair? Sure, on the surface. But there are unfortunately other things "at play" when you are talking about a celebrity. Namely, earning power. And that's all FR was trying to say. Maybe he used poor examples, he was just giving examples that he was more familiar with and you just fixated on that rather than the point he was trying to make. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorttynaz Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 ^ This is a better post than the alternative of there being a video of stevegrab nekkid and doing his hair. Looked like he was air-banging a chair at one point too.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Looked like he was air-banging a chair at one point too.. I don't know where you guys got those videos but if you don't stop I'm gonna call Saul. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BA Baracus Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 (edited) ^ This is a better post than the alternative of there being a video of stevegrab nekkid and doing his hair. Edited March 10, 2016 by BA Baracus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelredd9 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 The jury awarded Steve $55.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BA Baracus Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 The jury awarded Steve $55.00 Those who viewed the video are the ones who were truly damaged 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelredd9 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Those who viewed the video are the ones who were truly damaged The judge doubled the jury's per diem out of sympathy for watching the video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 The judge doubled the jury's per diem out of sympathy for watching the video. I wish I had a clue what you guys are talking about, maybe then it would be funny. Was Erin naked and doing her hair, is that it? And I'm Erin? Maybe you should all take your act to Vegas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmeout Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 I'd arrange some "unwanted" surveillance equipment for $55 million in my room... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenzal rhomb Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 And that's all FR was trying to say. Maybe he used poor examples, he was just giving examples that he was more familiar with and you just fixated on that rather than the point he was trying to make. yes and thank you for having the ability to see this. I was searching for famous examples of horrendous painful deaths that people would be familiar with and the value placed on those civil settlements as opposed to what happened to her - I don't see why knuckle(the really bad word) couldn't grasp that concept. As far as the red bull comparison, that was strictly irony or whatever the literary term is when you throw something minor in as a contrast to something serious and major as a means to be amusing. maybe my humor is lost on some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelredd9 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 I wish I had a clue what you guys are talking about, maybe then it would be funny. You might have a mild case of Asperger's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 You might have a mild case of Asperger's Thank you for your well informed medical diagnosis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Don't forget to say "you're welcome". Do not give him the last word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Don't forget to say "you're welcome". Do not give him the last word. Good luck with that one, my OCD prevents me from allowing it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorttynaz Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Good luck with that one, my OCD prevents me from allowing it... in that case, this could turn into another 36-page Cmix getting his shot thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 in that case, this could turn into another 36-page Cmix getting his shot thread. You mean...like when will stevegrab not respond on every freakin topic or not get in the last word type of 36 pager? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 You mean...like when will stevegrab not respond on every freakin topic or not get in the last word type of 36 pager? Sorry I'm such a bad person, I'll try to change if you'll give me a second chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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