Swampnuts Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Any opinions out there now that Muhammad has been dropped? My guess is Philadelphia, with the Giants, Redskins, or Falcons having an outside shot. Moose lives in Charlotte and has since he was drafted, he won't want to leave the East coast. He'll want to go to a program with upside, so that bodes well for Philly and Atlanta. Philly's got the cash, the need, and the team to pull Moose in. What's the feeling out there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donutrun Jellies Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Is Muhsin enough of a #1 to pull Price back into performing? Price was strong as #2, weak as #1 ... if Atlanta signs MM and he transforms PP, they could be getting two WRs for the "price" of one ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donutrun Jellies Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 ... plus, Philly already has Freddie Mitchell ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scourge Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Philly is going to sign a wide out and I wouldn't be suprised if it is Muhammed. Mitchell is probably going to be let go and I wouldn't be suprised if Pikston is demoted. Don't be suprised if the birds sign a RB either. Word around here has it that they might be trying to get their hands on Davenport or Jordan. I would prefer Davenport as he would be a nice compliment to Westbrook in Philly's backfield. TO, Muhammed and G Lewis with Pinkston as the 4 reciever would be sweet. And with Westbrook as the scat back and Davenport picking up the tough yards, the Eagles would be a super bowl contender again next year with no question. The Eagles will take a RB with one of their early picks this year in the draft.. So, a FA RB might not happen.. But bet the house on a WR.. I would also be happy with that T.J. Housemenzhada(sp?) if they can't land Muhammed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Is Muhsin enough of a #1 to pull Price back into performing? 712771[/snapback] If Muhammad keeps this up, but he knew he would be going to a new team soon so he stepped up his game this year, and he's not getting any younger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 (edited) "Da Bears" Heard on ESPN radio Da Bears & MyHammy have agreed on a deal in principle. Also local Chicago Radio - WSCR/The Score - says that MyHammy and the Bears have agreed in principle to a contract. No links yet. Edited February 26, 2005 by Big Score 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 (edited) Lenny P on ESPN radio: MyHammy and the Da Bears reached agreement at 3 am this morning on a multi year contract. $5-6 Mil per year with a $9-10 Mil signing bonus. Edited February 26, 2005 by Big Score 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhippens Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 as a bears fan, i love the fact that this move opens up the draft for them a little bit. on the other hand, i'm not completely convinced moose can be a #1 for a full season. i hope he performs at a high level and this turns out to be a good move. we (bears fans) keep waiting for this team to turn around. every year, it seems like we get a little closer, then something goes wrong. hope this move helps go towards success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 "INDIANAPOLIS -- For wide receiver Muhsin Muhammad, released Friday afternoon by the Carolina Panthers, the stay in the NFL unemployment line was a brief one. Less than 12 hours after the Panthers terminated Muhammad's contract, rather than pay him a $10 million roster bonus, the veteran wide receiver and the Chicago Bears reached an agreement in principle on a multi-year deal, ESPN.com has learned. There remains some work to be done on contract language and distribution of funds, sources said, but the two sides are in accord on all key parameters of the deal." ESPN linky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampnuts Posted February 26, 2005 Author Share Posted February 26, 2005 Good for Moose, but Chicago overpaid on this one. Moose is a good receiver, but he has had only two standout years and they were both contract years. But Moose is light years ahead of any WR on the Bears roster. Will they still draft Braylon Edwards now?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 They better because Moose won't keep this up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muck Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Thank GOD he's not coming to KC! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargerz Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Good for Moose, but Chicago overpaid on this one. Moose is a good receiver, but he has had only two standout years and they were both contract years. But Moose is light years ahead of any WR on the Bears roster. Will they still draft Braylon Edwards now?? 712892[/snapback] I hope they don't draft Edwards. I want A.J. Smith to do that!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Irish Doggy Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 He'll now return to the overpaid, underachieving WR we all cut from our fantasy squads years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrobn26 Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Mush is not worth $10mil bonus....incentives, maybe, but NOT A BONUS!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Good for Moose, but Chicago overpaid on this one. Moose is a good receiver, but he has had only two standout years and they were both contract years. But Moose is light years ahead of any WR on the Bears roster. Will they still draft Braylon Edwards now?? 712892[/snapback] Agreed that they were overpaid, but they were also desperate. I think they might draft Edwards as well because (1) Moose is old and (2) they don't have anything resembling a decent #2 WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Nothing wrong with grabbing the best WR they can in the draft...although I'd like them to see if they can go in a different direction if one guy is there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampnuts Posted February 27, 2005 Author Share Posted February 27, 2005 Agreed that they were overpaid, but they were also desperate. I think they might draft Edwards as well because (1) Moose is old and (2) they don't have anything resembling a decent #2 WR. 713192[/snapback] Gotta give credit to you Bill, you called this deal two weeks ago. I thought for sure he was going to Philly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down Goes Frazia Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 (edited) here's a situation where I'm glad the vikes didn't over pay. Minnesota clearly needs to replace Moss with some talent and they're in the best "cap shape" of any team in the league right now. 35 mil under the cap prior to moving Moss, I believe. ..... and moving him opens up a ton more. Muhammed is good but not that good. Derrick Mason is the real prize IMO..... and with Muhammed getting that kinda coin, Mason will hit the motherload. :eek: Hopefully in minney. Edited February 27, 2005 by Down Goes Frazia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Unless I am grossly mistaken, Moose doesnt get the 10 mil., that was part of his old contract, and since he was released, no longer in effect, right? So, we don;t know what the Bears paid yet, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Agreed that they were overpaid, but they were also desperate. I think they might draft Edwards as well because (1) Moose is old and (2) they don't have anything resembling a decent #2 WR. 713192[/snapback] I don't think getting Moose will make any difference to their draft plans. My bet is they will still go for Edwards. Like Bill said, they had zero receivers before today. They need two at least. Wouldn't surprise me to see the cheapskates trade down, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Unless I am grossly mistaken, Moose doesnt get the 10 mil., that was part of his old contract, and since he was released, no longer in effect, right? So, we don;t know what the Bears paid yet, right?713399[/snapback] The six-year contract can be worth as much as $30 million. It includes $12 million in total guarantees, and the first three seasons are worth $16 million. We all know these $100 mil contracts for Peyton and Vick and $50+ mil for LT & Portis are just so much fluff and PR. The guaranteed money in those contracts is where it's at. So the headline about MyHammy's contract being worth 30 mil is nice and all, but the real money for him is what's guaranteed and that 12 mil in guarantees says it all Here's the link to the story at ESPN which I provided earlier in this thread. Check it out Rovers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'canes2004 Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Wow. The Bears still making sketchy and desperate player moves. They can't blame this one on Wanny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Actually, I think Da Bears messed up when they shipped Booker to the Phinz for O'Gun. Shoulda kept Booker and traded A-Train instead and from my understanding, that's the guy who the Phinz really wanted anyway. Instead they moved Booker for O'Gun, which means they now find themselves overpaying for a WR to replace him and they're still likely to loose A-Train, while getting nothing for him. Brilliant move by Angelo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 The six-year contract can be worth as much as $30 million. It includes $12 million in total guarantees, and the first three seasons are worth $16 million. 713585[/snapback] So about $5 mil a year for a guy who over the past 7 years has averaged 70 catches, 1000 yds and 6 tds? I've seen FAR worse deals. At worst, Muhammad seems to be a nice possession WR who can be a security blanket for a young QB like Grossman. At first blush, I'd predict about 65-900-6 for him, which is a step up from last year's Bear WRs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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