ethnics Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I play in a 12 team performance league with standard scoring and .5 PPR. As usual, most teams in the first four rounds went RB, RB, WR, WR. There were three of us that deviated from this formula and all have had success. Two teams selected WR, QB, WR, RB, RB and I opted for RB, WR, WR, RB. The teams that went QB, WR, selected a QBWR tandem (Brady - Moss and Romo TO). Do you see this as a trend given the pass happy league that currently is the NFL and the fact that many teams are using RBBC? For standard scoring performance leagues, where do you see this trend? Or will it stay as it has been? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 for the most part RBs will always rule the roost....the key to any draft strategy is selecting the right players(easier said then done) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 If you've been around here long enough this question always surfaces when people try to defend taking a QB early. There are several problems with not getting AT LEAST ONE RB early. 1) Most leagues require between 1 and 2 RBs be started. That is a minimum of 12 and a maximum of 24 that must be started each week. There are 32 NFL teams and the trend is for RBBC. If you have the opportunity to land one of the RBs that carries the whole load (like LT, Ronnie Brown before he got hurt, SJax before he got hurt) then you almost MUST take that player. Finding starting RBs is becoming more and more difficult .. this is the MOST difficult position for a fantasy football owner to fill. 2) Most leagues only require 1 starting QB. Teams typically do not play the QBBC game ... as long as injuries aren't a factor. After the first 1 or 2 QBs the next 10 or so QBs are all about the same. The problem is figuring out which QBs will be in the top 1 or 2. Before this season nobody would have put Brady, Romo and Favre as the top three ... just ask all those guys that drafted Manning. So when you take a QB early you are playing catchup the rest of the draft ... and if you missed on one of the top two QBs with your early pick then also forfeited the plus you hoped to get by taking the QB early. This is the EASIEST position for a fantasy football owner to fill with a quality player. As a matter of fact very often starting QBs are available on waivers. 3) NFL teams start any where from 2 to 4 WRs meaning that WRs are by far the most plentiful position available. WRs are the easiest position to fill at any given time. RB-WR-WR-RB can be very successful as you can get a quality QB late (this year it was Favre, Romo, Anderson, Kitna, etc). WR-QB-WR-RB-RB is VERY risky. It requires that you HIT on your early QB AND you MUST find at least one sleeper RB late. If you managed to get Brady in the 2nd round and hit on Adrian Peterson late ... then this strategy could have worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I tried RB-WR-WR this season and it failed miserably. Rudi and Steve Smith seemed like a good start picking at #12 I'll never take a WR that high again, I'll wait until the end of the 2nd or the 3rd for a WR. As far as taking a QB, I hit on Big Ben in 9 leagues this season around 7-10 round rage. Yep, I would have liked to have Brady, but he cost you a 3rd and Ben did GREAT for where he was taking. Even a pick up like Warner made some noise. I'll be passing on QB's until after round 5 as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godtomsatan Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 In WCOFF, over 80% of the finalist teams use Brady, Romo, Roethlisberger, Hasselbeck, and Kitna as starting QBs. Only Brady was drafted regularly by the 5th Round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 (edited) I'm the top seed in my local league. I acquired my starting QB in week 8 - Kurt Warner. Before that I was starting either Jason Campbell (also acquired in free agency before week 1) or Vince Young (a current free agent). [EDIT TO ADD] My week 4 starter was another free agent acquition - Brian Griese. Edited December 12, 2007 by Grits and Shins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 (edited) In my local here is how the top 6 teams drafted (listed in order of playoff seeding) 1. RB-WR-WR-WR-RB-QB-TE 2. RB-RB-WR-WR-DF-WR-QB-TE 3. RB-WR-WR-RB-QB-TE-WR ... (eliminated round 1 of playoffs) 4. RB-RB-WR-WR-QB-TE-RB ... (eliminated round 1 of playoffs) 5. WR-RB-TE-WR-WR-TE-RB-QB 6. RB-RB-WR-WR-QB-TE-DF You will note that the EARLIEST a QB was taken was the 5th round, one team took his QB as late as the 8th round. Without fail all got AT LEAST ONE RB in the first 2 picks. And their drafts: 1.01 1 Tomlinson, Ladainian SDC RB 2.12 24 Williams, Roy DET WR 3.01 25 Wayne, Reggie IND WR 4.12 48 Clayton, Mark BAL WR X5.01 49 Jacobs, Brandon NYG RB 6.12 72 Young, Vince TEN QB X7.01 73 Witten, Jason DAL TE 8.12 96 Williams, DeAngelo CAR RB X9.01 97 Norwood, Jerious ATL RB X10.12 120 Cowboys, Dallas DAL Def X11.01 121 Steelers, Pittsburgh PIT Def 12.12 144 Smith, Alex (SFO-QB) SFO QB X13.01 145 Taylor, Chester MIN RB 14.12 168 Carter, Drew CAR WR X15.01 169 White, Roddy ATL WR 16.12 192 Gostkowski, Stephen NEP PK 1.12 12 Brown, Ronnie MIA RB X2.01 13 Jones-Drew, Maurice JAC RB 3.12 36 Johnson, Andre HOU WR 4.01 37 Driver, Donald GBP WR 5.12 60 Ravens, Baltimore BAL Def 6.01 61 Edwards, Braylon CLE WR 7.12 84 Rivers, Philip SDC QB X8.01 85 Miller, Heath PIT TE 9.12 108 Jordan, Lamont OAK RB X10.01 109 Jenkins, Michael ATL WR X11.12 132 Jaguars, Jacksonville JAC Def X12.01 133 Roethlisberger, Ben PIT QB 13.12 156 Gould, Robbie CHI PK 14.01 157 Washington, Leon NYJ RB X15.12 180 Pittman, Michael TBB RB X16.01 181 Stevens, Jerramy TBB TE X1.05 5 Alexander, Shaun SEA RB 2.08 20 Owens, Terrell DAL WR 3.05 29 Moss, Randy NEP WR 4.08 44 Peterson, Adrian (MIN-RB) MIN RB 5.05 53 Bulger, Marc STL QB 6.08 68 Crumpler, Alge ATL TE 7.05 77 Jones, Matt JAC WR X8.08 92 Henderson, Devery NOS WR X9.05 101 Mason, Derrick BAL WR 10.08 116 Marshall, Brandon DEN WR 11.05 125 Bell, Tatum DET RB X12.08 140 Toomer, Amani NYG WR 13.05 149 Panthers, Carolina CAR Def X14.08 164 Culpepper, Daunte OAK QB X15.05 173 Brown, Josh SEA PK X16.08 188 Pollard, Marcus SEA TE X1.1 10 Bush, Reggie NOS RB 2.03 15 Henry, Travis DEN RB 3.1 34 Boldin, Anquan ARI WR 4.03 39 Houshmandzadeh, T.J. CIN WR 5.1 58 Romo, Tony DAL QB 6.03 63 Cooley, Chris WAS TE 7.1 82 Jones, Julius DAL RB X8.03 87 Stallworth, Donte' NEP WR 9.1 106 Morency, Vernand GBP RB X10.03 111 Curtis, Kevin PHI WR 11.1 130 Williams, Reggie JAC WR 12.03 135 Turner, Michael SDC RB 13.1 154 Wade, Bobby MIN WR 14.03 159 Morris, Maurice SEA RB X15.1 178 Colts, Indianapolis IND Def X16.03 183 Rackers, Neil ARI PK X1.11 11 Smith, Steve (CAR-WR) CAR WR 2.02 14 McGahee, Willis BAL RB 3.11 35 Gates, Antonio SDC TE 4.02 38 Colston, Marques NOS WR 5.11 59 Moss, Santana WAS WR 6.02 62 Gonzalez, Tony KCC TE 7.11 83 Green, Ahman HOU RB X8.02 86 Leinart, Matt ARI QB X9.11 107 Patriots, New England NEP Def 10.02 110 Jones, Kevin DET RB 11.11 131 Vinatieri, Adam IND PK 12.02 134 Cutler, Jay DEN QB 13.11 155 Crayton, Patrick DAL WR 14.02 158 Olsen, Greg CHI TE X15.11 179 Ginn Jr., Ted MIA WR 16.02 182 Packers, Green Bay GBP Def 1.02 2 Jackson, Steven STL RB 2.11 23 James, Edgerrin ARI RB 3.02 26 Branch, Deion SEA WR 4.11 47 Ward, Hines PIT WR 5.02 50 Brees, Drew NOS QB 6.11 71 Watson, Ben NEP TE 7.02 74 Chargers, San Diego SDC Def 8.11 95 Jennings, Greg GBP WR 9.02 98 Taylor, Fred JAC RB 10.11 119 Horn, Joe ATL WR X11.02 122 Manning, Eli NYG QB 12.11 143 Williamson, Troy MIN WR X13.02 146 Kaeding, Nate SDC PK 14.11 167 Clark, Desmond CHI TE X15.02 170 Leonard, Brian STL RB X16.11 191 Vikings, Minnesota MIN Def Edited December 12, 2007 by Grits and Shins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 The top 6 teams as they stand now Campbell, Jason WAS QB FA Warner, Kurt ARI QB (P *) FA Morris, Maurice SEA RB 14.03 Smith, Kolby KCC RB (R) FA Taylor, Chester MIN RB 13.01 Tomlinson, Ladainian SDC RB 1.01 Young, Selvin DEN RB (R) (P *) FA Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR (Q *) 2.1 McCardell, Keenan WAS WR FA Wayne, Reggie IND WR 3.01 White, Roddy ATL WR 15.01 Witten, Jason DAL TE 7.01 Gostkowski, Stephen NEP PK 16.12 Buccaneers, Tampa Bay TBB Def FA Giants, New York NYG Def 16.06 Steelers, Pittsburgh PIT Def 11.01 Jacobs, Brandon NYG RB (P *) 5.01 Williams, Ricky MIA RB (I) FA Williams, Roy DET WR (O *) 2.12 Garcia, Jeff TBB QB (Q *) FA Roethlisberger, Ben PIT QB 12.01 Chatman, Jesse MIA RB (Q *) FA Jones-Drew, Maurice JAC RB 2.01 Lynch, Marshawn BUF RB (R) (Q *) 3.06 Williams, DeAngelo CAR RB 8.12 Burleson, Nate SEA WR FA Driver, Donald GBP WR 4.01 Edwards, Braylon CLE WR 6.01 Johnson, Andre HOU WR 3.12 Patten, David NOS WR FA Welker, Wes NEP WR FA Miller, Heath PIT TE 8.01 Folk, Nick DAL PK (R) FA Colts, Indianapolis IND Def 15.1 Ravens, Baltimore BAL Def 5.12 Brown, Ronnie MIA RB (I) 1.12 Hackett, D.J. SEA WR (O *) 9.03 Garrard, David JAC QB FA Alexander, Shaun SEA RB (P *) 1.05 Droughns, Reuben NYG RB FA Faulk, Kevin NEP RB FA Jackson, Fred BUF RB FA Peterson, Adrian MIN RB (R) (P *) 4.08 Marshall, Brandon DEN WR 10.08 Mason, Derrick BAL WR 9.05 Moss, Randy NEP WR 3.05 Owens, Terrell DAL WR 2.08 Toomer, Amani NYG WR 12.08 Crumpler, Alge ATL TE 6.08 Miller, Zach OAK TE (R) FA Brown, Josh SEA PK (*) 15.05 Cowboys, Dallas DAL Def 10.12 Bulger, Marc STL QB (Q *) 5.05 Ward, Derrick NYG RB (I) FA Lemon, Cleo MIA QB FA Romo, Tony DAL QB 5.1 Bush, Reggie NOS RB (Q) 1.1 Foster, De'shaun CAR RB (P *) 11.04 Henry, Travis DEN RB 2.03 Morency, Vernand GBP RB 9.1 Turner, Michael SDC RB 12.03 Boldin, Anquan ARI WR (Q *) 3.1 Curtis, Kevin PHI WR (P *) 10.03 Hilliard, Ike TBB WR (Q *) FA Houshmandzadeh, T.J. CIN WR (P *) 4.03 Stallworth, Donte' NEP WR 8.03 Stokley, Brandon DEN WR (Q *) FA Cooley, Chris WAS TE 6.03 Elam, Jason DEN PK 14.09 Vikings, Minnesota MIN Def 16.11 Cutler, Jay DEN QB 12.02 Manning, Peyton IND QB 2.05 Jones, Kevin DET RB 10.02 McGahee, Willis BAL RB 2.02 Colston, Marques NOS WR 4.02 Crayton, Patrick DAL WR (P *) 13.11 Gage, Justin TEN WR FA Ginn Jr., Ted MIA WR (R) 15.11 Johnson, Bryant ARI WR FA Moss, Santana WAS WR 5.11 Gates, Antonio SDC TE 3.11 Gonzalez, Tony KCC TE 6.02 Olsen, Greg CHI TE (R) 14.02 Vinatieri, Adam IND PK 11.11 Packers, Green Bay GBP Def 16.02 Patriots, New England NEP Def 9.11 Leinart, Matt ARI QB (I) 8.02 Green, Ahman HOU RB (I *) 7.11 Hall, Andre DEN RB (P *) FA Brees, Drew NOS QB 5.02 Manning, Eli NYG QB 11.02 Jackson, Steven STL RB 1.02 James, Edgerrin ARI RB 2.11 Taylor, Fred JAC RB 9.02 Branch, Deion SEA WR 3.02 Jennings, Greg GBP WR 8.11 Muhammad, Muhsin CHI WR 10.04 Randle El, Antwaan WAS WR (P *) FA Ward, Hines PIT WR (*) 4.11 Clark, Desmond CHI TE 14.11 Watson, Ben NEP TE 6.11 Mare, Olindo NOS PK 15.06 Chargers, San Diego SDC Def 7.02 Saints, New Orleans NOS Def FA Wynn, DeShawn GBP RB (R) (I) FA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piranha-z Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 This was my draft this year: Vag-tastic Voyage View All Round Pick Player Position 1. (1) LaDainian Tomlinson RB 2. (16) Drew Brees QB 3. (17) Ronnie Brown RB 4. (32) Tony Romo QB 5. (33) Marques Colston WR 6. (48) Marshawn Lynch RB 7. (49) Plaxico Burress WR 8. (64) Jake Delhomme QB 9. (65) Baltimore DEF 10. (80) Santonio Holmes WR 11. (81) Jason Witten TE 12. (96) Jamal Lewis RB 13. (97) Jeff Wilkins K 14. (112) Michael Turner RB 15. (113) Jason Campbell QB 16. (128) Isaac Bruce WR 17. (129) Ernest Wilford WR 18. (144) Green Bay DEF Looking back, I'm not sure why I took Brees right away for my 2nd pick, but all is good. Finished 11-3, scored the leagues highest points in 5 years, but unless I win it all, it's all for naught. (I only have 11 of the original players left) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Irish Doggy Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 So long as NE doesn't get a new, capable RB, I'll take Brady or Moss in round 1. I'm not sure there are any other non-RBs to consider however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piranha-z Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 (edited) Another thing I should mention is that I took a QB/WR combo in Brees and Colston and Ended up trading for TO, so had the Romo/TO combo, and those combos were a big part of me winning this year. I have never tried that strategy in the past, but it worked well this year. Edited December 12, 2007 by Piranha-z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo mama Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 (edited) Two of my three teams (both 12 team redrafts) are doing very well this year: - In The Empire (picking from 1.1) I went: RB, WR/QB, RB/RB, WR/WR. It worked because my #1 RB (LT2) panned out and I struck gold with a #2 RB at the 4/5 turn (Jamal Lewis). However, I did have to draft 2 RBs there to hedge against a bust #2 RB pick, which I did encounter (A. Green). Since my WR/QB pick at the 2/3 turn worked out well (Wayne/P. Manning) the overall early draft strategy was a success. However, note how I didn't pick my #2 WR until 6.12. That was risky, but I grabbed Galloway/Berrian there, which was good enough. (Passed on Edwards, which was a mistake in hindsight, but I made up for it by drafting Welker very late). Bottom line: I didn't go RB/RB in the first two rounds and it paid off, but it worked because I made each of the first four picks count regardless of position, not because I focused on drafting a particular position. And even that success was largely attributable to the injury bug leaving six of my seven first picks alone. - in my local (picking from 1.3) I went RB, WR, WR, WR, RB. Again, a solid #1 RB (Addai) anchors the team. Surrounding him with a productive #2 (Lewis again) is a key to success, but that's not to say you have to draft that #2 RB in the 2nd or 3rd round. I opted to pass on going QB early here because the WR value kept falling to me (Holt, then Owens, then Andre Johnson). With that kind of starting 5 it almost doesn't matter who my QB is. In this particular league I let the value fall to me. Outside of going RB in the 1st round I wasn't looking to drafting any particular position in any particular round. But in a PPR league where WRs comprise about 14 of the top 24 (non-QB) producers I didn't hesitate at all to pass on a RB who gave me bad vibes for a WR I felt good about. The reality is that you can't win your league in your first 4 picks: you can only lose it by making bad ones. So don't focus so much on what you're going to do in those early rounds. The difference between a good team and a great team comes in drafting well in the middle rounds and having a little luck in late rounds, which is often a function of your own research, mock drafts, and intuition, rather than going down the last 1/3 of a commercial cheat sheet. Most people spend 80% of their time preparing for the first 4 picks, and 20% of their time on everything else. My suggestion would be to do the reverse. Edited December 13, 2007 by yo mama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 So long as NE doesn't get a new, capable RB, I'll take Brady or Moss in round 1. I'm not sure there are any other non-RBs to consider however. And those that went into this year thinking that way about Peyton Manning are likely regretting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 The reality is that you can't win your league in your first 4 picks: you can only lose it by making bad ones. So don't focus so much on what you're going to do those early rounds. The difference between a good team and a great team comes in drafting well in the middle rounds and having a little luck in late rounds, which is often a function of your own research, mock drafts, and intuition, rather than going the last 1/3 of a commercial cheat sheet. Most people spend 80% of their time preparing for the first 4 picks, and 20% of their time on everything else. My suggestion would be to do the reverse. There is much truth here. However, this year if your first 4 picks all stayed healthy that may have been enough to get you to the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Irish Doggy Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 And those that went into this year thinking that way about Peyton Manning are likely regretting it. Yeah, in the preseason, there appeared to be too many good choices at QB this year. Anyone who jumped on a QB in round 1, chose poorly. Brady, for next year, if they still appear to be a pass-happy team, could be worth it once LT, Peterson, Addai, Westy... maybe a couple others are gone. I'm thinking bottom half or third of a typical 12 team draft. Have to see how things shake out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Yeah, in the preseason, there appeared to be too many good choices at QB this year. Anyone who jumped on a QB in round 1, chose poorly. Brady, for next year, if they still appear to be a pass-happy team, could be worth it once LT, Peterson, Addai, Westy... maybe a couple others are gone. I'm thinking bottom half or third of a typical 12 team draft. Have to see how things shake out... i would say that no QB is worth being drafted in the 1st 3 rounds but that is just me...and if someone thinks a QB is worthy of a 1st round selection then you probably would never be able to change their mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 (edited) I look to address the positions where there is a big dropoff at production sooner than others... Edited December 12, 2007 by Avernus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egret Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I look to address the positions where there is a big dropoff at production sooner than others... I can do you one better: I look to draft better players than others. So far, I've had moderate success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 This was my draft this year:Vag-tastic Voyage View All Round Pick Player Position 1. (1) LaDainian Tomlinson RB 2. (16) Drew Brees QB 3. (17) Ronnie Brown RB 4. (32) Tony Romo QB 5. (33) Marques Colston WR 6. (48) Marshawn Lynch RB 7. (49) Plaxico Burress WR 8. (64) Jake Delhomme QB 9. (65) Baltimore DEF 10. (80) Santonio Holmes WR 11. (81) Jason Witten TE 12. (96) Jamal Lewis RB 13. (97) Jeff Wilkins K 14. (112) Michael Turner RB 15. (113) Jason Campbell QB 16. (128) Isaac Bruce WR 17. (129) Ernest Wilford WR 18. (144) Green Bay DEF Looking back, I'm not sure why I took Brees right away for my 2nd pick, but all is good. Finished 11-3, scored the leagues highest points in 5 years, but unless I win it all, it's all for naught. (I only have 11 of the original players left) Other than the Brees in the 2nd, I'd be more interested in why you then took Romo in the 4th and then Delhomme as your third QB in the 8th. Then, just for good measure, grabbed a 4th QB. Unless this is a start two QB league, there is no reasoning that could explain that. Another thing I should mention is that I took a QB/WR combo in Brees and Colston and Ended up trading for TO, so had the Romo/TO combo, and those combos were a big part of me winning this year. I have never tried that strategy in the past, but it worked well this year. Doing my best Grits here, but care to comment on how adding TO to Romo caused you to have higher scores as oppossed to any other WR that put up numbers comparable to TO? The fact that your QB and WR were from the same team had absolutely nothing to do with your success... the fact that the QB and WR you had both performed well did, their actual NFL team is completely irrelevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xMRogers Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Unfortunately, the simple answer is - you could have gone QB/WR/WR/RB/RB...and is that was Brady, Moss, TJ, ADP and Marion Barber, you set every scoring record known ot man if you went RB/RB/RB/WR/QB and it was Larry Johnson, Cedric Benson, Deuce McCallister, Javon Walker and Donovan McNabb, you probably went 0fer (that's not a made up example - in theory, could have happened in our league as they were all drafted in the middle of the first 5 rounds respectively) You know you need an early RB becasue you simply have a better chance of being "right" with your first round pick, and RB are the most rare commodity - there's a QB on the waiver wire every week which will be within 5 points of one of Brady/manning/Palmer. You don't have at least one good RB (whehter drafted 1st round or 10th), you lose. And your 1st round RB is more likely (thought not even close to guaranteed) to be good vs your 10th rounder. now, if everyone started going QB and WR in the first two rounds, I'd draft RB in the first 5 rounds straight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grey Pilgrim Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 This thread seemed to begin with attempting to open the door to drafting other positions than RB's during the normal flood of RB picks in the first two rounds. But most of the comments that followed seemed to key in on drafting a QB early, instead of WR's. I have been a proponent of drafting WR's at the end of the first round and beginning of the 2nd round for quite a few seasons now, with pretty good success. I tend to agree with all the reasons why not to draft a QB early, and those reason have all been explained by others in the thread. But I did want to add support to what I think may be a growing trend to quit taking RB's so often early in the draft, particularly in PPR leagues that seem to be growing in numbers. PPR leagues are one way of working to dilute the common and very boring and mundane 1st and 2nd rounds where 18 out of 20 players are RB's. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ at that draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piranha-z Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 (edited) Other than the Brees in the 2nd, I'd be more interested in why you then took Romo in the 4th and then Delhomme as your third QB in the 8th. Then, just for good measure, grabbed a 4th QB. Unless this is a start two QB league, there is no reasoning that could explain that.Doing my best Grits here, but care to comment on how adding TO to Romo caused you to have higher scores as oppossed to any other WR that put up numbers comparable to TO? The fact that your QB and WR were from the same team had absolutely nothing to do with your success... the fact that the QB and WR you had both performed well did, their actual NFL team is completely irrelevant. We start two QB's and injuries have always plagued me at this position, so I added to have back-up and to fill bye weeks. A big reason in taking Romo where I did was the way the others drafted around me. When the top QB's start falling, I needed to pick another. By this time there was already 31 players picked. I try to keep a strategy when picking, but it depends somewhat on other peoples picks as well and who's left. I'm not saying that adding TO made my scores higher, at least I didn't mean to imply that, but having Romo playing well usually means TO played well, at least when I had him. I'm not saying it's right, but it worked this year. Btw, by round four, P. Manning, Brady, Palmer, Brees, Bulger, McNabb and Kitna were gone! Edited December 13, 2007 by Piranha-z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAUgrad Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 This year seems to be an anomaly. I can tell you that this is the first year in the last 7 where the WR team has worked. There always seems to be someone that grabs all the WR's they can while everyone else grabs RB's. This year it seems to have worked. I myself thought that Moss was going to be good, but would be injured off and on all season and would probably end up being a head case. Ooops on that one. Same thing with TO this year, which is why I traded him. Another oooops. What does this tell you........well, I'm still going to draft RB's 1st and 2nd, but instead for having 3 RB's by the 6th round, I may start looking harder at quality WR depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF409ers Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 i would say that no QB is worth being drafted in the 1st 3 rounds but that is just me...and if someone thinks a QB is worthy of a 1st round selection then you probably would never be able to change their mind. +1 I agree. In my local I finished the year with the #1 seed for the playoffs. I drafted Phillip Rivers and Trent Green, dropped Green and rode Campbell for awhile and finished the year out with Kurt Warner / Garcia. The team that drafted Brady (in the second round) finished second in overall points but failed to make the playoffs. I also agree with what yo mama said about the importance of the middle rounds, so true about people spending so much time on their first 4 picks and so little on the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTSuper7 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 In most cases, your strategy is initially dictated by how early your first round pick happens to be. Generally, there are a few RBs that command the first few picks (studs) followed by a group of guys who aren't complete studs but are the primary ball carrier on generally decent offensive teams. I was fortunate enough to get the #1 pick this year, and with it I went RB-WR-RB-WR-RB with my first five. If I had something like the #10 or #11 pick, it probably would have worked out differently. I got the #2 seed drafting Rivers in the 8th round and Eli in the 11th. The Romo/TO owner got the #1 seed and the Brady/Moss owner got the #3 seed. Because RBs are given the best opportunity to score, I don't see draft strategies changing much. I think people will probably reach too early for Brady, Moss, Romo, Owens next summer. I say this mainly because chances seem slim that they will duplicate the level of success they've had this year but they'll be drafted based on that level of success. It's the same reason why some LT owners think he's been a semi-bust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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