matt770 Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 So we're rewarding teams that leave the most points on the bench? How asinine. What a ridiculous way to lose your first game of the season. I hate fantasy football. How does your league decide ties? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 So we're rewarding teams that leave the most points on the bench? How asinine. What a ridiculous way to lose your first game of the season. I hate fantasy football. How does your league decide ties? We used to use bench points as a tie breaker long ago. Now we just allow ties. They have ties in the NFL too. (We do have some complex procedure for breaking a tie in the playoffs). Ties count (just like in the NFL) as a 1/2 win and 1/2 loss. A record of 4-4-2 is the same as 5-5. Assuming you knew this rule going in, what's the big deal? Sure it always sucks to lose a close game. Besides didn't you get BB's memo yesterday, there's no whining in fantasy football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby's Hubby Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Some use points scored by defense, some use highest score by any started player, some use defense and QB combined .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Pimp Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 We keep ties as ties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 we use reserves scoring but since moving to decimal points, there hasn't been a tie in a decade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt770 Posted October 2, 2012 Author Share Posted October 2, 2012 It should be coaching efficiency, in other words whichever team has a lower difference between the started lineup and the optimal lineup. At least that is based on merit instead of something random like which RB scored the most or bench points which actually rewards bad lineups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zooty Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Speaking of ties....did you see that thing Berman was wearing last night? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt770 Posted October 2, 2012 Author Share Posted October 2, 2012 I hate fantasy football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 we use reserves scoring but since moving to decimal points, there hasn't been a tie in a decade. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddahj Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Use decimal point scoring. It eliminates 99.9% off ties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt770 Posted October 2, 2012 Author Share Posted October 2, 2012 Use decimal point scoring. It eliminates 99.9% off ties. I'm not in a position to influence how the league is run unfortunately. I come here to whine and bitch about it, as it is my understanding that is the purpose of this forum. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Prefer to simply allow ties during the regular season. Making it too random (ie QB points, highest scoring player, etc.), rewarding possibly poor owner decisions (most bench points, highest scoring bench player, etc.) or even using something that is sort of merit based but can be manipulated such as coaching efficiency are all poor options in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelsosi Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Fractional points should eliminate almost all ties. But if not, just allow the ties. On a related note, I won a match by .04 of a point yesterday. Closest match in our league history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt770 Posted October 2, 2012 Author Share Posted October 2, 2012 Prefer to simply allow ties during the regular season. Making it too random (ie QB points, highest scoring player, etc.), rewarding possibly poor owner decisions (most bench points, highest scoring bench player, etc.) or even using something that is sort of merit based but can be manipulated such as coaching efficiency are all poor options in my opinion. How can coaching efficiency be manipulated? It's a simple percentage based on starting lineup vs. optimal lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 How does your league decide ties? you might want to look into decimal scoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 0ne Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 I'd help you but I'm not exactly sure what a re-draft league is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 I'd help you but I'm not exactly sure what a re-draft league is. This may help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flemingd Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 MFL has an option to allow owners to designate one Tie-Breaker bench player, we use that. I agree going to decimal would be the best way but this isn't bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 I hate fantasy football. Yeah we talked about that Sun/Mon over here I'm not in a position to influence how the league is run unfortunately. I come here to whine and bitch about it, as it is my understanding that is the purpose of this forum. Nope, see the thread I linked above, whining about FF is not allowed. How can coaching efficiency be manipulated? It's a simple percentage based on starting lineup vs. optimal lineup. Not exactly manipulated, but if your bench sucks, all the players are banged up or inactive, you get a good coaching efficiency, but only becase nobody on your bench is scoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papajohn Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Nope, see the thread I linked above, whining about FF is not allowed. I think it is time to let it go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 0ne Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 I think it is time to let it go He can't. We hurt his sensitive little feelings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 How can coaching efficiency be manipulated? It's a simple percentage based on starting lineup vs. optimal lineup. If you want to manipulate your coaching efficiency, only carry 1 K and 1 D (you automatically get 100% at those spots), you could also carry just 1 TE and 1 QB to also boost your efficiency. Not saying it is ideal roster management, but it can be done to affect your coaching percent. Also, as stevegrab said, it can also be indicative of having a very poor roster with no depth and actually punishes those that have done a better job of drafting and managing their roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcmast Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 If you want to manipulate your coaching efficiency, only carry 1 K and 1 D (you automatically get 100% at those spots), you could also carry just 1 TE and 1 QB to also boost your efficiency. Not saying it is ideal roster management, but it can be done to affect your coaching percent. Also, as stevegrab said, it can also be indicative of having a very poor roster with no depth and actually punishes those that have done a better job of drafting and managing their roster. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delusions of grandeur Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 (edited) It should be coaching efficiency, in other words whichever team has a lower difference between the started lineup and the optimal lineup. At least that is based on merit instead of something random like which RB scored the most or bench points which actually rewards bad lineups. If they could still tie you with a less than optimal lineup, doesn't that still indicate a stronger team that week? BTW, we actually just had the first tie I've ever seen with decimal scoring in YODT. No tie-breakers during the regular season (stands as a tie), but bench points is the first tie-breaker in the playoffs. Not a perfect solution, but like BC said, "coaching effeciency" only stands to hurt someone who's accumulated a stacked bench and helps the team with less depth.... I mean, is it better to reward the team who had so many good choices that they might not have chosen the best ones, or the one with so few good choices that their lineup practically sets itself? And of course this is not to mention the teams who do set an optimal lineup, but still have a stacked bench who are penalized for it. Edited October 2, 2012 by delusions of grandeur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt770 Posted October 2, 2012 Author Share Posted October 2, 2012 No, you're all wrong. I'm the better player and had this been decided based on coaching efficiency, I win. Therefore any other random method that says I lost is by definition wrong. I hate fantasy football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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