K Rob Signs

[Delicious_bass]

Wow, you people sure go off on people with alcohol problems. I mean it is hard to get over alcoholism, it's a lot of people's comfort item. He doesn't seem like a bad person, I mean hate people like OJ Simpson, or Rae Carruth, not a guy with an alcohol problem. He was even TRYING to fix it. He does not deserve the label of a dirtbag.

So, because its hard, we should cut the guy some slack? Give him a few more chances? Give him the benefit of the doubt until he gets loaded and kills someone while recklessly speeding to avoid police?

 

I realize its probably tough for him. But he is a grown friggin man and needs to be held accountable for his actions. Its attitudes like yours that help alcoholics keep struggling. You just keep telling them its ok because its hard.

 

I mean how many of you on here drink?

There is a hugh difference between people who have a drink and people who have a drinking problem that threatens their careers and lives.

 

Yea, it was dumb of him to drive drunk, completely moronic, but it isn't like he showed up at his job hammered out of his mind.

No? IIRC, he showed up juiced to either a court date or the actual weekend he was supposed to serve some time. I believe he also has missed practices and meetings in the past because he was sleeping it off from the night before.

 

Alcoholism is hard thing to beat, but you guys all seem to think its all his fault and he's a dirtbag for drinking. Maybe he was having a horrible night and the only thing he could think of was going to his comfort item.

 

Alcoholism is a tough thing to beat, but it is his fault. Pretty sure no one has ever forced any booze into that guy's mouth. He is a man and he alone is responsible for what he does. Bad night or not, he has no excuse and no one to blame but himself.

 

That the Packers signed this fool to a contract is just plain sad. Its no wonder, as others(Crispy, I think) have said, that these guys learn no accountability. All they learn is no matter how bad they f*ck up, someone will give them another chance.

[The Vatican Hitsquad]

Wow, you people sure go off on people with alcohol problems. I mean it is hard to get over alcoholism, it's a lot of people's comfort item. He doesn't seem like a bad person, I mean hate people like OJ Simpson, or Rae Carruth, not a guy with an alcohol problem. He was even TRYING to fix it. He does not deserve the label of a dirtbag.

 

I mean how many of you on here drink?

 

Yea, it was dumb of him to drive drunk, completely moronic, but it isn't like he showed up at his job hammered out of his mind.

 

Alcoholism is hard thing to beat, but you guys all seem to think its all his fault and he's a dirtbag for drinking. Maybe he was having a horrible night and the only thing he could think of was going to his comfort item.

 

Excellent points.

 

This thread needed the point of view of a roaring drunk to set it... oh... you ARE a drunk right? Did I just assume that from your apologist slant?

[CD6405]

Excellent points.

 

This thread needed the point of view of a roaring drunk to set it... oh... you ARE a drunk right? Did I just assume that from your apologist slant?

 

 

No, I'm smart enough to never touch a drop of alcohol.

Edited September 12, 2006 by CD6405

[Menudo]

No, I'm smart enough to never touch a drop of alcohol.

 

 

Irish, is that you ?

[Pope Flick]

The bottom line is this: alcoholism is a serious issue. The NFL in consistently resigning him and passing him around bascially aren't taking his situation seriously, but rather they are empowering him to do what he's doing. His employment consequences have been zilch so he has little motivation. After all if you could go through life drunk and still play a game that nets you hundreds of thousands who is really telling you that what you're doing isn't right? a court appearance? OK - when do ig get my paycheck?

[Wolv]

No accountability and being coddled in life. Small wonder these dirtbags never learn what the rest of the world does about life.

 

 

 

+1, and to the similar responses thereafter. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have new employers looking to give me a paycheck after pulling the same stunts KRob has. Unless it was a position as a breathalyzer tester...

[Yukon Cornelius]

hmmmm any alcohol in greenbay

[Bronco Billy]

 

Alcohol abuser K Robinson lands in GB?

 

That's about the equivalent of locking an arsonist in a kerosine warehouse with a bic lighter, or locking Jeffery Dahmer up in the same cell with a 12 year old boy.

 

Nice.

[alexgaddis]

I think Brett just wanted a drinking buddy to get through this year...

[Ruffian]

Maybe it's just me, but I'm thinking the last thing KROB needs right now is to learn a new playbook and put himself in front of an city that is watching the franchise struggle. The word is DETOX--start there, young Koren, and then worry about catching post corner routes. You can't catch the deep ball when you're dead.

 

A GIANT thumbs down to the GM that brings him back with all that baggage--a second chance should come after healing, not during it. This kid needs an excuse to drink like the oil companies need a reason to gouge.

[kraftykraft]

For God's sake, why sign KRob? Haven't Packers fans suffered enough the last year or so?

 

[Chavez]

 

Alcoholism is a tough thing to beat, but it is his fault. Pretty sure no one has ever forced any booze into that guy's mouth. He is a man and he alone is responsible for what he does. Bad night or not, he has no excuse and no one to blame but himself.

 

 

Any alcoholics willing to take issue with this statement?

[Chavez]

Looks like the Pack aren't so sure that Greg Jennings is a ROTY candidate. Let's hope that K-Rob can pull his head out of the bottle and get his oh poopy together.

 

Eh, I think he was more of a 4th-5th WR/KR signing.

 

Obviously having a guy who HAS had some success in the league at WR ups the pressure on ALL their WRs to perform. Driver aside, KR's career #s smoke their other 4 WRs.

 

But I don't know that even Thompson would be counting on this guy. Low risk, moderate reward signing, IMO.

[Chavez]

Shame on the Packers; Cliff Christl is probably the crankiest GB beat writer out there:

 

 

Green Bay - What happens if Koren Robinson kills somebody in Wisconsin driving drunk or fleeing the police?

 

Green Bay Packers general manager Ted Thompson wore a smile late Monday afternoon as he prepared to meet the media in the Lambeau Field atrium to announce the signing of wide receiver and kick returner Koren Robinson. When that was the first question fired at Thompson following his brief introductory remarks, he turned ashen and somber as he tried to collect himself and provide an answer.

 

"Oh, I can't answer anything like that," Thompson said after a two-second pause. "There's issues in his past that obviously he's made some mistakes, but most of those issues are covered under the confidentiality of the NFL and the NFLPA. There's programs set up and that sort of thing, and that's where that lies."

 

 

Maybe if Thompson had given that potential tragedy some thought prior to that moment, he might have come to his senses and not been standing there. Because he hadn't, he should have answered, "The blood, or at least some splattering of it, will be on my hands."

 

Chilling?

 

You bet it's a chilling thought. When the local professional football team signs a player less than a month after he has been arrested for allegedly driving drunk at more than 100 miles an hour and refusing to stop for police, that is what should be foremost on the minds of the people of Wisconsin, most of whom are good, loyal fans of the Packers. We shouldn't be thinking about whether this troubled player can help this troubled team win an extra game or two.

 

This was a move that deserves no mercy when it comes to criticism and only a chilling look at what could be the most chilling consequences of it.

 

Maybe there's little risk if Robinson merely suffers a relapse with his alcohol addiction. But if that relapse leads to death, something that Thompson apparently viewed as the unthinkable, the damage done to the Packers will be tsunami-like.

 

Is Thompson really that stupid to risk the reputation, the kindred spirit and the good will that one of the most storied franchises in sports has built with its community and its fans over 80-some years?

 

Could Thompson not figure out beforehand that if Robinson goes astray in any way that gives the Packers a black eye he might erase almost all of the positive feelings that were created under his mentor, Ron Wolf, following the bleak 1980s, when the Packers were habitual losers both on and off the field?

 

Why didn't chief executive officer Bob Harlan, chief operating officer John Jones and the executive committee overrule Thompson in the case?

 

Is Harlan willing to risk his legacy during his final year in office on Koren Robinson not tarnishing the image of the franchise? Have the members of the committee completely lost their spine?

 

This is a player who has at least two strikes against him in the NFL's substance-abuse program. This is a player who has had repeated problems with alcohol over his six years in the league, perhaps leaving him on pace to become football's version of Steve Howe.

 

Yes, it's best if the executive committee doesn't interfere with football decisions. And, yes, it always has been pretty much a rubber stamp for whatever the general manager and coach want.

 

But this was more than just a football decision.

 

Again, and it can't be emphasized enough, this was a decision to sign a player who within the last month endangered lives in one of the most reckless ways possible.

 

A player who was released by the rival Minnesota Vikings because they no longer wanted to deal with the problems he created.

 

How many mothers and fathers, or any of you for that matter, want this player living in your neighborhood or driving your streets at night?

 

True enough, the National Football League isn't the Boy Scouts. It's automatically assumed that if a city has a franchise, it's going to be harboring players with arrest records, convictions, you name it.

 

If the Packers, or any other teams for that matter, limited itself to signing only good citizens, they couldn't compete in what some, in an attempt at dark humor, have called the National Felony League.

 

Nor would most people be naïve enough in these parts to believe that since the days of Johnny Blood there haven't been Packers going out at night, imbibing too much and driving. Probably most of us who live in this state, at least those of us 21 and older, have driven at some time or another after having too much to drink.

 

Had the Packers signed Randy Moss or Terrell Owens or any other malcontent or controversial figure, it would have drawn no quarrel here. The 1996 Super Bowl champs included players with troubled pasts. Andre Rison, Tyrone Williams, even Brett Favre come to mind.

 

But Robinson, at least for now, so soon after his most recent incident, can't offer anything but hollow promises that he'll get his life together and not repeat his senseless behavior that had him racing back to the Vikings' training camp in Mankato with an alleged 0.11 blood-alcohol content.

 

That's why Thompson and the Packers will be culpable for any calamities or tragedies that Robinson might bring to pass here. Under almost any other circumstances, it would be unfair to blame Thompson or the Packers for trouble caused by their players.

 

They're employers, not babysitters.

 

But they wouldn't deserve impunity in this case. They certainly couldn't plead ignorance.

 

The potential downside here so outweighs the potential gains that somebody, somewhere in the organization with any kind of authority should have had the good sense to speak up and short-circuit the move.

 

Then again, maybe that's why this team appears to be in a free fall and is even willing to once again risk becoming the squalor it was back in the days when no player symbolized it any better than Mossy Cade.

 

Mossy Cade? Ouch.

[loaf]

Any alcoholics willing to take issue with this statement?

 

no desire to write an explanation between alcoholism the disease and alcohol abuse.

[CD6405]

Now who is gonna say T.O. is a worse person in the NFL?