HowboutthemCowboys Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 I actually loved the guy until last week. Then he gets a stinger and misses a full game. I bet 90% of the NFL players would have come back in. Now all this talk about will he or won't he play Sunday. I just don't want to deal with it. Clearly the guy is soft IMO. I know,I read your other posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gros Membres! Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 I actually loved the guy until last week. Then he gets a stinger and misses a full game. I bet 90% of the NFL players would have come back in. Now all this talk about will he or won't he play Sunday. I just don't want to deal with it. Clearly the guy is soft IMO. From what I hear it was a dirty helmet to the soft part of the back hit. Dangerous stuff. I have no problem with him not playing further and aggravating the injury further if it means he's going to suit up this week and catch some balls. If not, welcome to trade bait Mr. Williams. If he and Chad don't hit this year I am toast by week 9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantsfan Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 I know,I read your other posts. I hear that. You know what it is, I have no issue if a guy plays hard and comes up short, but with Roy I really believe he is soft. Either he's 100% or he sits. That doesn't fly as an NFL WR. That drives me insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Zuko Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 I traded Westbrook for CJ as big time insurance in case Roy doesn't play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish247 Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 (edited) reports are more than conflicting... first he'll probably be doubtful, now he's probable and now this bit... KFFLOct 11 Steve Pate, of The Daily Oakland Press, reports Detroit Lions WR Roy Williams missed practice Wednesday, Oct. 11 for personal reasons. He is listed as probable for the Week 6 game. is Detroit's sports news media run by a magic 8-ball? Edited October 12, 2006 by kingfish247 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doobwaa Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 reports are more than conflicting... first he'll probably be doubtful, now he's probable and now this bit... is Detroit's sports news media run by a magic 8-ball? Hopefully not the same one they use to run the team..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gros Membres! Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 I'm a Yahoo (still no Hakim ) user and the reports list him as doubtful and the service lists him as Probable. Maybe if he just practices the rest of the freakin' week. I need Roy to score some serious points this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 From what I hear it was a dirty helmet to the soft part of the back hit. Dangerous stuff. I have no problem with him not playing further and aggravating the injury further if it means he's going to suit up this week and catch some balls. If not, welcome to trade bait Mr. Williams. If he and Chad don't hit this year I am toast by week 9. No way was that a dirty hit. Absolutely 100% false. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gros Membres! Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 No way was that a dirty hit. Absolutely 100% false. I wish I could see exactly what it was. We don't get the Vikes or DET games here in NYC. Was it just a normal tackle with for a guy coming over the middle? Roy is a puss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboysDiehard Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 It was definitely borderline. Roy caught the ball on a slant, and was tackled. As he was about to hit the ground, the safety came in and lowered the boom on the back of his head, kind of scrunching his neck. The kind of hit that Lions homers will say is dirty, but Viking homers would say is clean. Since there was no flag, nor any fine later (as far as I know), then you kind of have to measure it by that criteria. Also, Williams was laughing as he came off the field, for what that's worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboysDiehard Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 Here's what USA Today has on Williams (probable) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 No way was that a dirty hit. Absolutely 100% false. Yes it was. It was late and it was unnecessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notamomo Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 Yes it was. It was late and it was unnecessary. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 Yes it was. It was late and it was unnecessary. It was the kind of late hit where the guy was already coming at him and couldn't just pull up and stop on a dime. It wasn't flagrant or anything like that. As was pointed out, there was no flag on the play, and no post-game fine or anything like that. So, the league seems to agree with me on this with it's tacit approval of the play. Was it unnecessary? Maybe. But there is not way that I would call that dirty. IMO, dirty is when you're purposely stepping on guys' fingers at the bottom of a pile trying to intentionally hurt them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantsfan Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 It was definitely borderline. Roy caught the ball on a slant, and was tackled. As he was about to hit the ground, the safety came in and lowered the boom on the back of his head, kind of scrunching his neck. The kind of hit that Lions homers will say is dirty, but Viking homers would say is clean. Since there was no flag, nor any fine later (as far as I know), then you kind of have to measure it by that criteria. Also, Williams was laughing as he came off the field, for what that's worth. That is the key line to me. So he didn't come back in and he may not play this week yet he was laughing when he came off the field. How does that all fit together. Last I checked if hurt badly you aren't laughing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cre8tiff Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 That is the key line to me. So he didn't come back in and he may not play this week yet he was laughing when he came off the field. How does that all fit together. Last I checked if hurt badly you aren't laughing. They say people who laugh on the outside hurt on the inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 They say people who laugh on the outside hurt on the inside. Well they're some sad things known to man But ain't too much sadder than The tears of a clown when there's no one around Oh yeah, baby baby, oh yeah baby baby Now if I appear to be carefree It's only to camouflage my sadness And honey to shield my pride I try To cover this hurt with a show of gladness But don't let my show convince you That I've been happy since you 'Cause I need to go, oh I need you so Look I'm hurt and I want you to know For others I put on a show ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primetime9287 Posted October 13, 2006 Author Share Posted October 13, 2006 Just a Follow Up... (Rotoworld) Roy Williams (probable, neck) missed practice again Thursday. Impact: He's missed the past two workouts due to personal reasons. It is a good sign, however, that he wasn't downgraded, and Lions offensive coordinator Mike Martz says he "should play" in Week 6. Williams will still probably have to put in a full day of work Friday to go Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTed46 Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 My gut feeling is he will play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantsfan Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 (edited) My gut feeling is he will play. I have a feeling he'll give it a try as well. But what's the deal with all this stuff. Probable, doubtful, will play, won't play, missing practice because of personal reasons. Weird to see this this back and forth and uncertainty for a regular season game. To me it's simple though. If he doesn't practice tomorrow he won't play IMO. I say that because I really wonder about these "personal reasons". But if he practices tomorrow he'll play. Edited October 13, 2006 by giantsfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrunt Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 I have a feeling he'll give it a try as well. But what's the deal with all this stuff. Probable, doubtful, will play, won't play, missing practice because of personal reasons. Weird to see this this back and forth and uncertainty for a regular season game. To me it's simple though. If he doesn't practice tomorrow he won't play IMO. I say that because I really wonder about these "personal reasons". But if he practices tomorrow he'll play. I have to agree with you. I picked up Wes Welker just in case, but I'd still much rather play Williams, so I can only hope he practices tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish247 Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 But if he practices tomorrow he'll play. i find that a player's participation in practice on Friday is the most dependable indicator of his status. i hope to see him out there this week as BUF's secondary was seriously exposed by lesser talent, imo, last week in CHI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ernie McCracken Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 Good news http://www.detroitlions.com/document_displ...ument_id=449519 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantsfan Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 (edited) Clayton just said he practiced today and should play. So that's good news. I still don't trust him 100%, but he should play Sunday according to Clayton. Edited October 13, 2006 by giantsfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primetime9287 Posted October 13, 2006 Author Share Posted October 13, 2006 I really wish I didnt have Reggie Brown sitting on the bench for this one. With Stallworth out, my luck is Roy will make a catch, get tackled, sit out the rest of the game, & Reggie will have 100+ and 1 td. If I bench Roy he blows up for 120 and 1 or 2 tds. REGGIE BROWN OWNERS. START HIM! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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