whomper Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 First person that comes to mind with this is Gaylord Perry. He was the king of this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Kind of reminds me of when Joe Niekro was busted with the emory board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Trick Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 He cheated...plain and simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 hmmm maybe it was poop Then somebody needs to teach him that 'two sheets' is just not enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holy Roller Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Then somebody needs to teach him that 'two sheets' is just not enough. At least he used the left hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 it happens all the time... all the time..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egret Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Devil's advocate: Aren't the balls mudded up before the game? Wasn't it wet and rainy in Detroit last night? Pitchers rub the ball into their hands. Couldn't the dirt have gotten onto his hand that way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Devil's advocate: Aren't the balls mudded up before the game? Wasn't it wet and rainy in Detroit last night? Pitchers rub the ball into their hands. Couldn't the dirt have gotten onto his hand that way? Sure...that's what happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 0ne Posted October 23, 2006 Author Share Posted October 23, 2006 Devil's advocate: Aren't the balls mudded up before the game? Wasn't it wet and rainy in Detroit last night? Pitchers rub the ball into their hands. Couldn't the dirt have gotten onto his hand that way? Uhh, it wasn't raining in NY when the same thing happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Uhh, it wasn't raining in NY when the same thing happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiley Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 That's not necessarily fishing when they have photos from past games with the EXACT smudge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 0ne Posted October 23, 2006 Author Share Posted October 23, 2006 Why do you think I'm fishing? You can clearly see the same thing here: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2006...tory?id=2635538 The one picture is from the ALCS, game 3. As I recall it wasn't raining. And even if it was, it would be a mighty large coincidence that he happened to have dirt in the same place, wouldn't you say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 0ne Posted October 23, 2006 Author Share Posted October 23, 2006 That's not necessarily fishing when they have photos from past games with the EXACT smudge. My bad, I saw this after my post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefjay Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 0ne Posted October 23, 2006 Author Share Posted October 23, 2006 +1 I don't get it. They have pictures of the same marks on his hand from the start against the Yanks. How exactly am I fishing? I'd prefer and explanation as opposed to a graemlin. TIA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 The substance he was using is not pine tar, but some other type of chemical. I forget the name of it. And the reason not a big deal was made of it from the Cards is that they are probably using it as well on cold nights. He was told to wash it off and now the media is going to make a big stink about it, although it is what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddy Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Kenny Rogers is a cheater. So what. What about the fact that the Cardinals could only muster one hit after the pine tar was gone, off a 42-year old man who throws about as hard as Blitz' kid? There's the real story Oh and I'm pretty sure that Pujos is juiced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefjay Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 I don't get it. They have pictures of the same marks on his hand from the start against the Yanks. How exactly am I fishing? I'd prefer and explanation as opposed to a graemlin. TIA. Actually I'm just trying to be funny. I guess it didn't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefjay Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Kenny Rogers is a cheater. So what. What about the fact that the Cardinals could only muster one hit after the pine tar was gone, off a 42-year old man who throws about as hard as Blitz' kid? There's the real story Oh and I'm pretty sure that Pujos is juiced Plus the Cardinals are pushing our guys any chance they can get. Pujols and Rolen on Saturday Night come to mind. Thugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 0ne Posted October 23, 2006 Author Share Posted October 23, 2006 The substance he was using is not pine tar, but some other type of chemical. I forget the name of it. And the reason not a big deal was made of it from the Cards is that they are probably using it as well on cold nights. He was told to wash it off and now the media is going to make a big stink about it, although it is what it is. I don't really follow baseball, because, essentially, the sport is gay, NTTAWWT. But according to you, the stuff he had on his hand was not being used to cheat? Then why did he babble through the press conference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Actually I'm just trying to be funny. I guess it didn't work. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 0ne Posted October 23, 2006 Author Share Posted October 23, 2006 Actually I'm just trying to be funny. I guess it didn't work. Dayum, I missed another attempt at subtle hughmor. I'm slipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 I don't really follow baseball, because, essentially, the sport is gay, NTTAWWT. But according to you, the stuff he had on his hand was not being used to cheat? Then why did he babble through the press conference? In essence, it is cheating, but there isn't a rule against using this particular substance.....like there is a written rule that pitcher's can't use pine tar or sandpaper, or files, or etc.... IMO, yes--cheater. IMO, LaRussa doesn't make a stink because his guys are using it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiley Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Plus the Cardinals are pushing our guys any chance they can get. Pujols and Rolen on Saturday Night come to mind. Thugs. That happens when you stand on the baseline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cre8tiff Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 I would have to believe if the Cards pitchers were planning to use the same thing, LaRussa would have told them to go wash thier sh!t off and make a stink to get Rogers out of the game. It was the TOP OF THE FIRST, no Cards pitcher had yet set cleat on the field... I think a far more damning quesiton is why LaRusaa DIDN'T make a stink about it. It seems his feelings about his buddy overshadow his will to win a critical World Series game. That is unacceptable, and I wish people would start asking questions about THAT, instead of the whole did he or didn't he question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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