MikesVikes Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 link Please report any and all nicknames that offend you directly to the NCAA. If a nickname includes any portion of the human race, please do your part and boycott that university. This is one (part) Irish dude that isn't going to just sit back and take it anymore. I'm not a fighting (part) Irish! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted February 21, 2007 Author Share Posted February 21, 2007 Why now? Check out this story writting by Sick Coleman. No more Chief Illiniwek sitings in Illinois and he thinks it's only a start. link Nick Coleman: Illinois shows North Dakota what is the truly honorable thing Goodbye, Chief Illiniwek, and good riddance. Next up, the North Dakota Fighting Sioux. By Nick Coleman, Star Tribune Chief Illiniwek gets the ax tonight. The Fighting Sioux nickname should be next. Sometimes, despite everything, there is progress. For 80 years, "Chief Illiniwek" has been what fans of the University of Illinois have called the barefoot white boys who have sported buckskin and feathers and aped American Indian dances during football and basketball games. The Chief is a throwback to the days when a conquering culture thought it could spoof racial stereotypes and "honor" people by making them into tumblers and clowns. But after tonight, the Chief will be history. In retiring him, Illinois will have succumbed to rulings from the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA). More importantly, Illinois will have bowed to common decency: You can't "honor" people by offending them. Chief Illiniwek makes his last dance when the Illinois men's basketball team hosts Michigan. The end of the road for this symbol of -- what, exactly? White boy nimbleness? -- has not brought out the best in the students and alumni of Illinois. But it has proved that the NCAA is on the right track. "If They Get Rid of the Chief I'm Becoming a Racist" was the name of an online site joined by more than 100 students, whose vile posts about Indians showed they didn't need to worry about becoming racists. They are well on the way. Still, the disappearance of an obnoxious minstrel act will be good for Illinois, and it may be good for North Dakota, too. With each cleansing of a racial caricature from the sports scene, the pressure mounts on the "Fighting Sioux" logo and name of the University of North Dakota, which finds itself in a small rump group of nickname offenders. At this point, the arguments North Dakota puts forward for keeping the name aren't the issue. The question is what kind of university wants to put its name and reputation through the wringer in defense of "honoring" a tribe whose representatives have said time and time again -- despite bogus claims by those who deny it -- that they don't consider it an honor to be reduced to a nickname. Last fall, using alumni donations that would be better spent in the classroom, UND took the NCAA to court, challenging the group's finding that the "Fighting Sioux" logo and nickname are "hostile and abusive." Since many of the Sioux tribes in the Dakotas have come to the same conclusion, it would have been civil to bow to the NCAA ruling. Forget civility. When North Dakota honors Indians, they better stay "honored." The only good Indian is an honored Indian. What a waste of time and money by a university that remains in the thrall of dead casino operator and Nazi memorabilia collector Ralph Engelstad, who gave UND $100 million to build the Taj Mahal of hockey arenas and festooned it with thousands of Fighting Sioux logos so it would be easier to tear down than to remove them all. Hmmm. Not a bad idea. Each time I write about this issue (I haven't since June), I am accused of knowing nothing about it. Permit me: I have reported on racist nicknames and Indian issues for 20 years and wrote a lengthy magazine piece on the Fighting Sioux problem in 2001 that delved into the "Nazi memorabilia collector" (yes, I love to say that) part of Engelstad's past. You can find a copy online at: www.und.edu/org/bridges/coleman.html. Be sure to read about the matching life-size portraits of Hitler and Engelstad -- both in Nazi uniforms -- that Engelstad put on the walls at his secret Hitler birthday parties as a "joke." You'll laugh yourself sick. The university's misguided lawsuit goes to court in December. Even if it succeeds at overturning NCAA procedures, the NCAA says it simply will change its procedures and continue to enforce its eminently sensible and important conclusion: The Fighting Sioux name and logo, like Chief Illiniwek, are relics of the past. Not the honored past. The shameful past. Nick Coleman • ncoleman@startribune.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameltosis Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 I am kind of offended by the Emory & Henry College WASPS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 Ichabods v. Poets is a fierce sounding match up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 People who criticize U of I for Chief Illiniwick tend not to know what the f they're talking about. They revered the Chief and always presented him in an honorable manner (unlike, say, the Cleveland Indians logo). I'll bet that this moron has never even seen the Chief's dance during a basketball game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 By Nick Coleman, Star Tribune Enough said right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 Griffins (Merv and Andy) Banana Slugs (slow, slimy, and vulnerable to salt) Reddies (communist or necks?) Diplomats (they try to talk their way into a win but always compromise) Gaels (How tough can you be if you get your ass kicked by the english for 500 years) Lancers (no, they arent ghey) Ramblers (will break down on you ever time) Beavers (bunch of Rosie O'Donnell) Gorillas (Where is al Sharpton on this one?) Jaspers (I have no idea what a Jasper is but it isnt scaring anybody) Valients (another poorly made vehicle) Privateers and corsairs (ghey pirates) monarchs (yes, butterflies are terrifying) majors (johnny is getting old to play) Fighting Scots(yes, they fight, but they dont ever win) battling bishops(they only fight over the alter boys) lutes (only make noise if you blow them) Quakers(dedicated to losing) blue hose(worn by nuns the world over) profs(picture wiegie, nuff said) bonnies(ghey) oles (cant play defense) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
51Butkus Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 Bring Back the Marquette Warriors!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimC Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 California University of Pennsylvania Vulcans People with pointy ears should be offended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holy Roller Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 People who criticize U of I for Chief Illiniwick tend not to know what the f they're talking about. They revered the Chief and always presented him in an honorable manner (unlike, say, the Cleveland Indians logo). I'll bet that this moron has never even seen the Chief's dance during a basketball game. Agree. Isn't this about the money? You know, where the NCAA has banned schools from participating in post-season action if they have an "offensive" mascot/team nickname/etc.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holy Roller Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 Blue Devils? I'm offended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryTheRock Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 Ospreys What a woman has the ability to do when reaching climax is her own business. Besides, not every woman has the ability to do this so why should a couple schools gals get to brag? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 Any team named "Cougars" is quite obviously demeaming to animal-print-wearing, middle-aged divorcees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boat_hacked Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 (edited) Surprised that Hawaii can have "rainbow" warriors as a mascot. doesn't that offend anyone? Edited February 27, 2007 by boat_hacked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 This Fighting Sioux alumni says leave the mascot alone. Actually, what do I care? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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