Hugh 0ne Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Giants have the ball, and can run out the clock and kick a 20 yard field goal to win the game, as they are down 16-14. Instead, Coughlin elects to run plays, and scores a TD. They kick the XP, and are now up 21-16, but there's over a minute left on the clock. If the Bears score a TD, they Giants lose. Is it me, or is that the absolute worst coaching possible in that scenario? Why in the hell would you give the other team the ball back and an opportunity to win the game when you have it all sewn up if you just take a knee twice and then kick a 20 yard field goal? Am I missing something? Oh, and how 'bout those Vikings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Either they had no confidence in their kicker, extreme confidence in their special teams (to contain Hester) and in their defense, or it was a bad coaching decision. However, the poorness of that decision pales in comparison to the one Gibbs made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piranha-z Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 It's all about ratings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heydave76 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 The Colts were trying to do that in San Diego and it cost them the game. However it worked the following week against KC. I think sometimes you get in trouble worrying too much about the clock. Sometimes you just need to score when the opportunities there, because there's no guarantee you'll get the field goal or you could turn the ball over on the next snap. I can see doing it both ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 I'd much rather see a HC go for a TD rather than rely on a f'n keecker to win a game at the end. As much as I despise Coughlin, kudos to him on that decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsmayes Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Yeah, I know! I don't understand why this wasn't the flex game either! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 However, the poorness of that decision pales in comparison to the one Gibbs made. I disagree 100%. Gibbs just flat out didn't know the rule...pathetic for a HC to not know the rules, but it was decision based on not knowing the rule. Coughlin gets no reprieve...his decision was based on pure stupidity, for which there is no excuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheikYerbuti Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 When you're a Giants fan, you get used to Coughlin making bad decisions. This was only one of a THOUSAND. He's a crappy coach, and no matter what their record he should be fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Cid Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 As a Giants fan, I thought this was absolutely the RIGHT decision. You have 1:30 left on the clock. You figure 3 running plays to punch it in. You have a timeout left to stop the clock in case you need to kick for the win. I would much rather them run it in than rely on the kicker. The D was occasionally giving up big plays but overall keeping the Bears in check. Taking a knee and kicking is not playing to win, it's playing not to lose. Taking the TD and relying on you D to do its job is playing to win. Coughlin makes some bad decisions but that wasn't one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberho27 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 2 words to answer your question: Lawrence Tynes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Trick Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Giants have the ball, and can run out the clock and kick a 20 yard field goal to win the game, as they are down 16-14. Instead, Coughlin elects to run plays, and scores a TD. They kick the XP, and are now up 21-16, but there's over a minute left on the clock. If the Bears score a TD, they Giants lose. Is it me, or is that the absolute worst coaching possible in that scenario? Why in the hell would you give the other team the ball back and an opportunity to win the game when you have it all sewn up if you just take a knee twice and then kick a 20 yard field goal? Am I missing something? Oh, and how 'bout those Vikings. It's bad coaching, I couldn't believe what I was watching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Cid Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 It's bad coaching, I couldn't believe what I was watching. It's guys like you that got shotty fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 I think Coughlin was PO's at Tynes as he kicked two OB on the kickoffs yesterday. The Bears would have had to be very lucky to score in the 4th quarter...they were getting rolled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Trick Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 It's guys like you that got shotty fired. It's guys like you that say its a good call now but had they lost (it was pretty clear the Bears let them score) in that lat minute that you'd have been in here complaining the other way. And see if you knew anything about the Chiefs you wouldn't have made such a stupid statement. Marty was a fantastic coach, but he worn out his welcome in KC, and he lost the team after he slept with a players wife. When the team doesn't respect you any longer then you have to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Cid Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 It's guys like you that say its a good call now but had they lost (it was pretty clear the Bears let them score) in that lat minute that you'd have been in here complaining the other way. And see if you knew anything about the Chiefs you wouldn't have made such a stupid statement. Marty was a fantastic coach, but he worn out his welcome in KC, and he lost the team after he slept with a players wife. When the team doesn't respect you any longer then you have to go. You're right, I hadn't heard anything about Marty sleeping with a player's wife and don't know an awful lot about KC. As I was watching the Giants game though, I heard the announcer spouting the same drivel as HughOne and you. It got the same reaction from me at that time. Play to win don't play to not lose. Like I said, I'm pissed at Coughlin for a lot of things but this is not one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdadreed Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Marty was a fantastic coach, but he worn out his welcome in KC, and he lost the team after he slept with a players wife. When the team doesn't respect you any longer then you have to go. Whoa...say what?!?!?! Ol' Marty was bangin' a player's wife? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Trick Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Whoa...say what?!?!?! Ol' Marty was bangin' a player's wife? That was the rumor, nobody denied or confirmed it, but there was a lockroom altercation. It was somethign that was actually kept internal for the most part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Row Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 I dunno here. Tynes is really hard to trust... The coaches did a good job of calling plays that kept the Bears honest, and the O-line did a good job of moving the line, especially with Ward out at that point. Seemed to me the coaches wanted to keep the ball on the ground and away from Dr. pick. Bottom line , they won the game and Coughlin's decision looks good today; Now if they lose this game, he would be getting lambasted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
untateve Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 As a Giants fan, I thought this was absolutely the RIGHT decision. You have 1:30 left on the clock. You figure 3 running plays to punch it in. You have a timeout left to stop the clock in case you need to kick for the win. I would much rather them run it in than rely on the kicker. The D was occasionally giving up big plays but overall keeping the Bears in check. Taking a knee and kicking is not playing to win, it's playing not to lose. Taking the TD and relying on you D to do its job is playing to win. Coughlin makes some bad decisions but that wasn't one of them. I'm not a giants fan but +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pig devilz Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 As a Giants fan, I thought this was absolutely the RIGHT decision. You have 1:30 left on the clock. You figure 3 running plays to punch it in. You have a timeout left to stop the clock in case you need to kick for the win. I would much rather them run it in than rely on the kicker. The D was occasionally giving up big plays but overall keeping the Bears in check. Taking a knee and kicking is not playing to win, it's playing not to lose. Taking the TD and relying on you D to do its job is playing to win. Coughlin makes some bad decisions but that wasn't one of them. agree...thanks for organizing my thoughts. plus, the weather was against them too, right? it almost looked like da Bears let them score, just to get the ball back..... it's either all of the above or Coughlin was just running up the score.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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