rocknrobn26 Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 For over 20 years I have been going to a bar/pizza place for the SB party. $160 includes 5+ hours open bar (call brands included) Pizza, shrimp, clams, before the game, pasta w/ salad at the half, and a "make your own sammich" after the game, plus a free drink purchased by the 4th. quarter winner. BUT..................Illinois passed a no smoking law this year for all restaurants and bars. Believe me this is a heavy smoking crowd. Questions: 1) Do you think that the smokers will miss a good portion of the game smoking outside? 2) How many will cheat and try to grab a smoke in the BR? 3) Will the restaurant ignore the "illegals" who cop one 'under the table'? 4) and then when I wore my first dress................The whole thing is illegal to begin with....they can't call the cops!!!! Just curious......Other options? Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuke'em ttg Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 is $160 for just you or per couple......... smokers i know do what they want........especially at a Bar on Superbowl sunday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneymakers Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 Raise the price to 200.00 add crab legs and enforce the no smoking policy and the place will be packed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuke'em ttg Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 Raise the price to 200.00 add crab legs and enforce the no smoking policy and the place will be packed. that's ghey......i think the topic is what the ole crew of smokers are gonna do during the game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrobn26 Posted February 2, 2008 Author Share Posted February 2, 2008 is $160 for just you or per couple......... smokers i know do what they want........especially at a Bar on Superbowl sunday 1 person! But we have a syndicate of 5 and pool our bets. $100 square.....$60 for the booze and food, plus a raffle at the end for a HDTV, DVD rec, or some other tech item. I think it's a pretty decent deal. that's ghey......i think the topic is what the ole crew of smokers are gonna do during the game Bingo! /ignorestupidpostsbyothers/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuke'em ttg Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 1 person! But we have a syndicate of 5 and pool our bets. $100 square.....$60 for the booze and food, plus a raffle at the end for a HDTV, DVD rec, or some other tech item. I think it's a pretty decent deal.Bingo! /ignorestupidpostsbyothers/ That breakdown sounds fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicCEO Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 For over 20 years I have been going to a bar/pizza place for the SB party. $160 includes 5+ hours open bar (call brands included) Pizza, shrimp, clams, before the game, pasta w/ salad at the half, and a "make your own sammich" after the game, plus a free drink purchased by the 4th. quarter winner. BUT..................Illinois passed a no smoking law this year for all restaurants and bars. Believe me this is a heavy smoking crowd. Questions: 1) Do you think that the smokers will miss a good portion of the game smoking outside? 2) How many will cheat and try to grab a smoke in the BR? 3) Will the restaurant ignore the "illegals" who cop one 'under the table'? 4) and then when I wore my first dress................The whole thing is illegal to begin with....they can't call the cops!!!! Just curious......Other options? Peace After Boulder's smoking ban (done before it was the cool thing to do), there was a pool bar on Pearl St that used to put out "thank you for not smoking" ashtrays and completely look the other way. Then, the cops started coming in and ticketing people. It is possible that this event may be considered a private party, and not a public bar, so maybe they have an exception. It's worth a shot, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxfactor Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 (edited) 1) Probably 2) Quite a few, I'd imagine, especially if it's subzero outside 3)The only thing I'd want under the table is the smoking hot babe doing me party favors 4)Exzachary FWIW, I think the new law sucks for stand alone bars. Gotta be some mighty pissed off smokers in Chi-Town. Of course, lots of smokers probably quit due to what they charge for a pack of butts up there. Have fun RnR Edited February 2, 2008 by jaxfactor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 If the bar is smart, they position a "Smokers TV" viewable from the outside, without placing it outside which I'm sure would be against SOME Chi-Town ordinance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H8tank Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 After Boulder's smoking ban (done before it was the cool thing to do), there was a pool bar on Pearl St that used to put out "thank you for not smoking" ashtrays and completely look the other way. Then, the cops started coming in and ticketing people. I forget, which party runs Boulder politics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubfoothead Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 I wouldn't worry about it. 1. Atomic might be right 2. Pope is probably right 3. In Dallas it took a while for the law to punish the establishment vs. the person smoking. When that was the case here, it was never a problem smoking as the bars didn't enforce it. 4. With a pregnant wife, I have to go outside and I hardly even notice since you can easily time it just like you do when you attend the event. Unless people are mentally focused on it, you won't notice. My advice would be to eat, drink and be merry and you will have an enjoyable party even if you have to freeze your a$$ of a couple of times. Besides, growing up in Fargo I always assumed if you noticed the cold you were drinking too slow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicCEO Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 I forget, which party runs Boulder politics? Is "College Town Hippie" a political party? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylive5 Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 Knowing Illinois they will probably be right there to fine everyone who tries to smoke in the bar. I know that a lot of the places around here no longer have SB parties and such because you can no longer smoke in the state of WA. If it is just your group you might be able to do what was suggested above... making it a private party and closing the doors. You could probably get away with smoking then. Talk to the owner/bartender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrobn26 Posted February 2, 2008 Author Share Posted February 2, 2008 Knowing Illinois they will probably be right there to fine everyone who tries to smoke in the bar. I know that a lot of the places around here no longer have SB parties and such because you can no longer smoke in the state of WA. If it is just your group you might be able to do what was suggested above... making it a private party and closing the doors. You could probably get away with smoking then. Talk to the owner/bartender. The new state law prohibits smoking in all public places (and outside within 15' of a doorway), except for stores that make at least 60% of their gross sales from tobacco and private clubs. To be considered a private club, it had to have been established as one prior to 1/1/2005. It will be interesting to see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 Knowing Illinois they will probably be right there to fine everyone who tries to smoke in the bar. Oh yes, you better believe it. They even enforce the 'within 15 feet of a doorway' portion of the law - ill-y-noize be crazy like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargerz Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 If the bar is smart, they position a "Smokers TV" viewable from the outside, without placing it outside which I'm sure would be against SOME Chi-Town ordinance. That's a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zmanzzzz Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 there are reasons smoking in public is illegal. zero sympathy for the ultimate selfish acitvity. Group 1 carcinogens Agents and groups of agents Aflatoxins (naturally occurring mixtures of) 4-Aminobiphenyl Arsenic and arsenic compounds1 Asbestos Azathioprine Benzene Benzidine Beryllium and beryllium compounds2 Chlornapazine (N,N-Bis(2-chloroethyl)-2-naphthylamine) Bis(chloromethyl)ether Chloromethyl methyl ether 1,4-Butanediol dimethanesulfonate (Busulphan; Myleran) Cadmium and cadmium compounds2 Chlorambucil Methyl-CCNU (1-(2-Chloroethyl)-3-(4-methylcyclohexyl)-1-nitrosourea; Semustine) Chromium(VI) compounds2 Ciclosporin Cyclophosphamide Diethylstilboestrol Dioxin Epstein-Barr virus Erionite Ethylene oxide Etoposide in combination with cisplatin and bleomycin Formaldehyde Gamma radiation Gallium arsenide Helicobacter pylori (infection with) Hepatitis B virus (chronic infection with) Hepatitis C virus (chronic infection with) Herbal remedies containing plant species of the genus Aristolochia Human immunodeficiency virus type 1 (infection with) Human papillomavirus type 16 Human papillomavirus type 18 Human T-cell lymphotropic virus type I Melphalan Methoxsalen (8-Methoxypsoralen) plus ultraviolet A radiation MOPP and other combined chemotherapy including alkylating agents Mustard gas (Sulfur mustard) 2-Naphthylamine Neutron radiation Nickel compounds2 Oestrogen therapy, postmenopausal Oestrogens, nonsteroidal1 Oestrogens, steroidal1 Opisthorchis viverrini (infection with) Combined forms of hormonal contraception (those containing both estrogen and a progestogen)3 Sequential forms of hormonal contraception (a period of estrogen-only followed by a period of both estrogen and a progestogen) Phosphorus-32, as phosphate Plutonium-239 and its decay products (may contain plutonium-240 and other isotopes), as aerosols Radioiodines, short-lived isotopes, including iodine-131, from atomic reactor accidents and nuclear weapons detonation (exposure during childhood) Radionuclides, α-particle-emitting, internally deposited4 Radionuclides, β-particle-emitting, internally deposited4 Radium-224 and its decay products Radium-226 and its decay products Radium-228 and its decay products Radon-222 and its decay products Schistosoma haematobium (infection with) Silica , crystalline (inhaled in the form of quartz or cristobalite from occupational sources) Solar radiation Talc containing asbestiform fibres Tamoxifen5 2,3,7,8-Tetrachlorodibenzo-para-dioxin Thiotepa (1,1',1"-Phosphinothioylidynetrisaziridine) Thorium-232 and its decay products, administered intravenously as a colloidal dispersion of thorium-232 dioxide Treosulfan Vinyl chloride X-Radiation [edit] Mixtures Alcoholic beverages Analgesic mixtures containing phenacetin Areca nut Betel quid with tobacco Betel quid without tobacco Coal-tar pitches Coal-tars Mineral oils, untreated and mildly treated Salted fish (Chinese-style) salted fish (all styles) Shale-oils Soots Tobacco products, smokeless Wood dust [edit] Exposure circumstances Aluminium production Arsenic in drinking water Auramine, manufacture of Boot and shoe manufacture and repair Coal gasification Coke (fuel) production Furniture and cabinet making Haematite mining (underground) with exposure to radon Secondhand smoke Iron and steel founding Isopropanol manufacture (strong-acid process) Magenta, manufacture of Painter (occupational exposure as a) Rubber industry Strong inorganic acid mists containing sulfuric acid (occupational exposure to) Tobacco smoking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMikeinNY Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 Cigeratte before the game, Cigeratte at halftime, Cigeratte when Giants go up 21, and Cigeratte at the end of the game.......That's 4 cigerattes If someone cannot go 30 minutes without having a "cancer stick", then they deserve to miss a couple minutes of the big game! I am sure the "real" football fans will wait until the appropriate times to smoke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicCEO Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 blah blah blah Annoying zman >>> Sanctimonious zman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zmanzzzz Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 Annoying zman >>> Sanctimonious zman smoker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boat_hacked Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 run out a buy some to seel at the party? http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/h...icle3295403.ece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimC Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 I quit smoking and I miss blowing second-hand smoke on annoying people that like to preach about their idiot personal beliefs to get them away from me. Now all I have is my farts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zmanzzzz Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 I quit smoking and I miss blowing second-hand smoke on annoying people that like to preach about their idiot personal beliefs to get them away from me. Now all I have is my farts. you are the idiot. The Health Consequences of Involuntary Exposure to Tobacco Smoke: A Report of the Surgeon General, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services There is No Risk-Free Level of Exposure to Secondhand Smoke The U.S. Surgeon General has concluded that breathing even a little secondhand smoke poses a risk to your health. Scientific evidence indicates that there is no risk-free level of exposure to secondhand smoke. Breathing even a little secondhand smoke can be harmful to your health. Secondhand smoke causes lung cancer. Secondhand smoke is a known human carcinogen and contains more than 50 chemicals that can cause cancer. Concentrations of many cancer-causing and toxic chemicals are potentially higher in secondhand smoke than in the smoke inhaled by smokers. Secondhand smoke causes heart disease. Breathing secondhand smoke for even a short time can have immediate adverse effects on the cardiovascular system, interfering with the normal functioning of the heart, blood, and vascular systems in ways that increase the risk of heart attack. Even a short time in a smoky room can cause your blood platelets to become stickier, damage the lining of blood vessels, decrease coronary flow velocity reserves, and reduce heart rate variability. Persons who already have heart disease are at especially high risk of suffering adverse affects from breathing secondhand smoke, and should take special precautions to avoid even brief exposure. Secondhand smoke causes acute respiratory effects. Secondhand smoke contains many chemicals that can quickly irritate and damage the lining of the airways. Even brief exposure can trigger respiratory symptoms, including cough, phlegm, wheezing, and breathlessness. Brief exposure to secondhand smoke can trigger an asthma attack in children with asthma. Persons who already have asthma or other respiratory conditions are at especially high risk for being affected by secondhand smoke, and should take special precautions to avoid secondhand smoke exposure. Secondhand smoke can cause sudden infant death syndrome and other health consequences in infants and children. Smoking by women during pregnancy has been known for some time to cause SIDS. Infants who are exposed to secondhand smoke after birth are also at greater risk of SIDS. Children exposed to secondhand smoke are also at an increased risk for acute respiratory infections, ear problems, and more severe asthma. Smoking by parents causes respiratory symptoms and slows lung growth in their children. Separating smokers from nonsmokers, cleaning the air, and ventilating buildings cannot eliminate secondhand smoke exposure. The American Society of Heating, Refrigerating and Air-Conditioning Engineers (ASHRAE), the preeminent U.S. standard-setting body on ventilation issues, has concluded that ventilation technology cannot be relied on to completely control health risks from secondhand smoke exposure. Conventional air cleaning systems can remove large particles, but not the smaller particles or the gases found in secondhand smoke. Operation of a heating, ventilating, and air conditioning system can distribute secondhand smoke throughout a building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicCEO Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 You take a risk every time you step out the door. Which is more dangerous to you, cutting a bagel in half with a sharp knife, or secondhand smoke? I'd say it's the bagel thing. The Surgeon General should look into that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egret Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 you are the idiot. The Health Consequences of Involuntary Exposure to Tobacco Smoke: Don't you smoke Josh Gordon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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