rajncajn Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 The Lord of Darkness - Legend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 The Iceberg - Titanic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheikYerbuti Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 Evil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Irish Doggy Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 (edited) Alan Rickman has played two of my most memorable bad guys:  Hans "I give you the FBI" Gruber in Die Hard  and  The Sheriff "bring a friend" of Nottingham in Robin Hood Edited July 27, 2008 by The Irish Doggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zooty Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 Evil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Neutron Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 Alan Rickman has played two of my most memorable bad guys: Hans "I give you the FBI" Gruber in Die Hard  and  The Sheriff "bring a friend" of Nottingham in Robin Hood  He does play a killer bad guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muck Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 If the measurement was: Â "Creepy Bad Assness" / "Amount of Screentime" Â the winner would have to be Darth Maul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrobn26 Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 For the old movie buffs: Capt. Munsey (Hume Cronyn) in "Brute Force" max Cady (Robert Mitchum) in the original "Cape Fear" Messala (Stephen Boyd) in "Ben Hur" Cody Jarrett (Jimmy Cagney) "White Heat" And last but not least...... The Wicked Witch of the West (Margaret Hamilton) in the Wizard of Oz. Prolly the first villain most of us ever saw! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheikYerbuti Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Yul Brynner as the Pharoah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Like Soup Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 I'm shocked it took 24 posts for GTS to name one of the top 3, in my opinion, Darth Vader. Â There are a number of good ones mentioned with Anton Chigurh and The Joker being very recent additions and definite top 10 material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheikYerbuti Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 I'm shocked it took 24 posts for GTS to name one of the top 3, in my opinion, Darth Vader. There are a number of good ones mentioned with Anton Chigurh and The Joker being very recent additions and definite top 10 material.  I could write a thesis on Vader, but I'll just summarize and say this:  After the release of Episodes I, II, and III the focus of the whole series changes. Once you get the back story of the 3 newer films, Vader ceases to be the bad guy. Palpatine is the real villian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 hannibal lecter isn't a villian? gimme a break. neither is darth vader? come on, people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 here's AFI's list of the top 50. not a really great list IMO, but a good starting point. hard to argue any of the top 10 aren't worthy of being somewhere on the list:  Hannibal Lecter (The Silence of the Lambs, Anthony Hopkins) Norman Bates (Psycho, Anthony Perkins)  Darth Vader (The Empire Strikes Back, David Prowse and voiced by James Earl Jones)  Wicked Witch of the West (The Wizard of Oz, Margaret Hamilton)  Nurse Ratched (One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Louise Fletcher)  Mr. Potter (It's a Wonderful Life, Lionel Barrymore)  Alex Forrest (Fatal Attraction, Glenn Close)  Phyllis Dietrichson (Double Indemnity, Barbara Stanwyck)  Regan MacNeil (The Exorcist, Linda Blair and voiced, when possessed by the demon, by Mercedes McCambridge)  The Queen (Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, Lucille La Verne)  Michael Corleone (The Godfather Part II, Al Pacino)  Alex DeLarge (A Clockwork Orange, Malcolm McDowell)  HAL 9000 (2001: A Space Odyssey, voiced by Douglas Rain)  The Alien (Alien, Bolaji Badejo and Tom Woodruff, Jr.)  Amon Göth (Schindler's List, Ralph Fiennes)  Noah Cross (Chinatown, John Huston)  Annie Wilkes (Misery, Kathy Bates)  The Shark (Jaws)  Captain Bligh (Mutiny on the Bounty, Charles Laughton)  Man (Bambi)  Mrs. John Iselin (The Manchurian Candidate, Angela Lansbury)  The Terminator (The Terminator, Arnold Schwarzenegger)  Eve Harrington (All About Eve, Anne Baxter)  Gordon Gekko (Wall Street, Michael Douglas)  Jack Torrance (The Shining, Jack Nicholson)  Cody Jarrett (White Heat, James Cagney)  Martians (The War of the Worlds)  Max Cady (Cape Fear, Robert Mitchum)  Reverend Harry Powell (The Night of the Hunter, Robert Mitchum)  Travis Bickle (Taxi Driver, Robert De Niro)  Mrs. Danvers (Rebecca, Judith Anderson)  Bonnie Parker & Clyde Barrow (Bonnie and Clyde, Faye Dunaway & Warren Beatty)  Count Dracula (Dracula, Béla Lugosi)  Dr. Christian Szell (Marathon Man, Laurence Olivier)  J.J. Hunsecker (Sweet Smell of Success, Burt Lancaster)  Frank Booth (Blue Velvet, Dennis Hopper)  Harry Lime (The Third Man, Orson Welles)  Caesar Enrico Bandello (Little Caesar, Edward G. Robinson)  Cruella De Vil (One Hundred and One Dalmatians, Betty Lou Gerson)  Freddy Krueger (A Nightmare on Elm Street, Robert Englund)  Joan Crawford (Mommie Dearest, Faye Dunaway)  Tom Powers (The Public Enemy, James Cagney)  Regina Giddens (The Little Foxes, Bette Davis)  Baby Jane Hudson (What Ever Happened to Baby Jane?, Bette Davis)  The Joker (Batman, Jack Nicholson)  Hans Gruber (Die Hard, Alan Rickman)  Tony Camonte (Scarface, Paul Muni)  Verbal Kint (The Usual Suspects, Kevin Spacey)  Auric Goldfinger (Goldfinger, Gert Fröbe)  Alonzo Harris (Training Day, Denzel Washington) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheikYerbuti Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 hannibal lecter isn't a villian? gimme a break. neither is darth vader? come on, people. Â In SOTL and Red Dragon, is Hannibal helping the police solve a crime? Â yes or no. Â Â Was Vader manipulated over to the dark side by lies and deceit? Â yes or no. Â Â BTW - This is what makes Hannibal and Vader such outstanding characters, the fact they're more than just mustache twirling "bad guys" who tie girls to the railroad tracks and do the Mwa-ha-ha laugh. They have real character depth, which makes them great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Neutron Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 BTW - This is what makes Hannibal and Vader such outstanding characters, the fact they're more than just mustache twirling "bad guys" who tie girls to the railroad tracks and do the Mwa-ha-ha laugh. They have real character depth, which makes them great. Â True - and I think TDK missed a great opportunity with the Joker's character in this respect. The character offered some great stories as to how he got his scars. It would have been more interesting to see how he became twisted and tortured as he was. Ledger did a great job, but I would have appreciated more background (not being a comic reader) to make the character more meaningful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bier Meister Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 spacey in 7 hopkins in lambs bruce willis in the jackel (not the worst villain, but one of the coldest) Â Â Â Â alan rickman, john malcovich play good villains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 I think this guy might classify as a villain... Â if not, I don't care! Â Rory Breaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godtomsatan Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 True - and I think TDK missed a great opportunity with the Joker's character in this respect. The character offered some great stories as to how he got his scars. It would have been more interesting to see how he became twisted and tortured as he was. Ledger did a great job, but I would have appreciated more background (not being a comic reader) to make the character more meaningful. Â Not to turn this into a Joker thread, but there never has been a definitive back story established for the character and motivations for his violence. Which makes him all the scarier, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godtomsatan Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 here's AFI's list of the top 50. not a really great list IMO, but a good starting point. hard to argue any of the top 10 aren't worthy of being somewhere on the list: Â Hannibal Lecter (The Silence of the Lambs, Anthony Hopkins)Â Norman Bates (Psycho, Anthony Perkins) Â These two, IMO, aren't really villains in the context of their stories. Lecter serves as an aide to the cop seeking out the bad guy, he's not the overall evil in the film. Bates is the titular 'Psycho', he's the main character and who we more or less experience the film through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 In SOTL and Red Dragon, is Hannibal helping the police solve a crime? yes or no.  uhh, yeah sorta, when he's not chewing off their face   BTW - This is what makes Hannibal and Vader such outstanding characters, the fact they're more than just mustache twirling "bad guys" who tie girls to the railroad tracks and do the Mwa-ha-ha laugh. They have real character depth, which makes them great.  no, that what makes them great villains and not just lame melodramatic one-dimensional caricatures. is that what you think a "real villian" is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 couple others that came to mind... Â laurence olivier's "dentist" in marathon man dennis hopper in blue velvet the quiet guy in fargo that motorcycle guy in raising arizona lee marvin as liberty vallance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satelliteoflovegm Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 I don't agree that Hackman is a villian in Unforgiven. He's a hardass fo sho...villain...meh  Captain Vidal in Pan's Labyrinth was shockingly evil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheikYerbuti Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 uhh, yeah sorta, when he's not chewing off their face  Hey, you gotta break eggs to make omelets, right?   no, that what makes them great villains and not just lame melodramatic one-dimensional caricatures. is that what you think a "real villian" is?  I think the majority of characters being named in this thread are one-dimensional melodramatic charicatures, so I guess the common perception of what a "real villian" is is kinda weak sauce.  Still, I think Palpatine is more evil than Vader, and plays a more villianous role in the Star Wars series. He wants control of the galaxy. All Vader wants is Padme's safety, and gets duped into servitude because of it. He's really mentally weak and pathetic. and it makes him a victim, rather than a villian IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote Quimby2 Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Al Swearengen from Deadwood Larry from Big Lebowski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote Quimby2 Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 tim roth form Rob Roy was a great call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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