NYCDOG Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 You mean like you did with Meachem? And while I agree it was a little odd that Leon got the start, he has gotten about 1/3 of the offensive plays as Jones this year(per NFL.com). To suggest Jones has no history of sharing is "a bit lazy and inaccurate IMO". Uh, when I said no history of sharing carries, I meant not in a true RBBC situation. Of course there are 3rd down backs that take some carries away from all feature backs. I think (or would hope) you know what I was saying, but feel free to split hairs. Oh and I addressed Meachem in my previous post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delicious_bass Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Uh, when I said no history of sharing carries, I meant not in a true RBBC situation. Of course there are 3rd down backs that take some carries away from all feature backs. I think (or would hope) you know what I was saying, but feel free to split hairs. Oh and I addressed Meachem in my previous post. Just bustin your balls a little bit, man There has been an extraordinary amount of pre-final panicy overreaction posts this year and its gotten a little annoying... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LayLow Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 It is NEVER right to take a QB early ... NEVER ... if you have paid any attention at all you would have heard many of use here telling this to anybody that would listen. Not the forums, im talking The Huddle, ESPN, rotoworld, etc,etc,etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LayLow Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 (edited) I took Brees in the 2nd round and that's been working out pretty well for me. I have brees in 2 leagues and Farvre/Garrad in one. My best team is the Farve/Garrard Edited September 29, 2008 by LayLow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCDOG Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Just bustin your balls a little bit, man There has been an extraordinary amount of pre-final panicy overreaction posts this year and its gotten a little annoying... Look, I agree that the host of "pre-final panicky" posts are annoying. That's why I'm so forcefully defending myself from such association! Anyway, enough of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 You can run on the Cowboys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 I have bree's in 2 leagues and Farvre/Garrad in one. My best team is the Farve/Garrard Of the QBs you mentioned... CutlerFarve McNabb Rodgers RIvers ... Cutler and Rivers are the only ones I would've been comfortable with. McNabb can't get through a season without a major injury anymore, Favre is wildly inconsistent by nature and even more so now in an unfamiliar system, and Rodgers was somewhat of an unknown coming into this season. As good as Eli looked from Dec-Feb last year, he's never been a particularly good fantasy QB. Roth had an excellent '07, but his history (and his team's at QB) isn't very fantasy-friendly either. I think that the logic behind taking a QB early this season is that there were fewer "safe" QBs who would be available in the mid-rounds. A few years ago, one could've waited until the 5th round and snagged a proven vet like Hasselbeck, Bulger, Favre, Delhomme, or Trent Green and been confident that those guys would produce reasonably. All of them have either declined physically or are in lesser offensive systems now. The newer crop of QBs is, for the most part, still unproven fantasy-wise. And with the growing use of RBBC, there's even less incentive to take a #2 RB early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LayLow Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Of the QBs you mentioned... ... Cutler and Rivers are the only ones I would've been comfortable with. McNabb can't get through a season without a major injury anymore, Favre is wildly inconsistent by nature and even more so now in an unfamiliar system, and Rodgers was somewhat of an unknown coming into this season. As good as Eli looked from Dec-Feb last year, he's never been a particularly good fantasy QB. Roth had an excellent '07, but his history (and his team's at QB) isn't very fantasy-friendly either. I think that the logic behind taking a QB early this season is that there were fewer "safe" QBs who would be available in the mid-rounds. A few years ago, one could've waited until the 5th round and snagged a proven vet like Hasselbeck, Bulger, Favre, Delhomme, or Trent Green and been confident that those guys would produce reasonably. All of them have either declined physically or are in lesser offensive systems now. The newer crop of QBs is, for the most part, still unproven fantasy-wise. And with the growing use of RBBC, there's even less incentive to take a #2 RB early. Maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTSuper7 Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 (edited) I think it's a bit too much of a sweeping generalization to state that it is NEVER right to take a QB early. Of course, I'm not sure what exactly early means. For argument's sake, let's say that taking a QB before the end of the 4th round is considered early. In general, I think it would be a mistake to pass on drafting a QB just because I think it is "too early". The better rule is to only draft a QB early when there is good value to be had. In most leagues I am in, it is rare to see a highly ranked QB fall very far, so chances are pretty good that I'll never draft a QB early, but I did draft Drew Brees in the 3rd round in one of my leagues this year, and that team is doing just fine... Edited September 29, 2008 by MTSuper7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montster Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 i've learned i need to pay more attention and not let the worst team in the league pick up buckhalter and use him against me while westy sits inactive on my bench. secondly, i've learned i need to not be in so many freakin' leagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Drafting WRs high is good. I guess as long as their names are not Moss, Edwards, Holt, Welker, Andre Johnson, Chad Johnson, or Houshmanzadeh, you should draft a WR high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 (edited) i've learned i need to pay more attention and not let the worst team in the league pick up buckhalter and use him against me while westy sits inactive on my bench. secondly, i've learned i need to not be in so many freakin' leagues. exactly....I really only pay attention to one league and that's no fun for the other leagues I'm in....I most likely have a losing record if I'm not on top of things... Edited September 29, 2008 by Avernus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawks21 Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 I have learned that luck has way more to do with it than we'd like to admit. Injuries are the most unstoppable force in the NFL, both real and fantasy. You get em', you're pretty much f'd. All that work, practice or studying goes right down the drain cause somebody rolls over too far onto another guy's leg. I have learned that the NFC West is really, really bad. I have learned that taking the best player, regardless of position, gives you the best chance of winning. Don't take a WR just because someone told you so. If the top seven WRs all go early, take the stud RB they left behind. Don't take the 17th RB on your list just to get a RB, if Drew Brees is still there and 23rd RB isn't much worse than the 17th. I have learned that TO should probably go at the end of the first round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montster Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 I have learned that luck has way more to do with it than we'd like to admit. +1. i played a guy tonight who called in his picks on draft day, apparently picking guys off the top of his head. it's a 14-team league that's very competitive, except for this guy, who took chris perry with his SECOND pick. i have westbrook, but even with him out, i figured i'd coast to an easy win this week. his lineup included favre, larry johnson, buckhalter, matt prater and tony gonzalez, and he will likely have the high score this week, doubling his average over the first three weeks. amazing, just amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 I do a really good job drafting Round 5 and on..........Rounds 1-4 is a crap shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROYALWITCHEESE Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 You can run on the Cowboys And pass. If Palmer plays next week, start your Bengals... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bier Meister Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 (edited) things i've been right about so far: Arz: warner over leinart, both wr's lokos very good, james is somewhat productive Buf: trent edwards, lynch car: mush would do better back as a #2 Dal: Barber would be a beast, romo's numbers would go down Den: cutler, marshall, royal, avoiding den's rb again Det: calvin would emerge over roy Gbp: rogers has developed nicely (he well overshot my predictions though), jennings Ind: gonzales Nos: would rebound offensively, bush is great in ppr's Nyg: eli is a middle of the road qb, jacobs is a good rb Nyj: favre still had something left, elavated his wr's values in NY Sdc: rivers is kinda meh, eventhings starts and ends with lt and gates Pit: fwp is a good rb and undervalued this year things i've been wrong about so far: Atl: that turner would so good so fast cin: how pathetic their offense has become cle: same as cin gbp: ryan grant..... really thought he'd be a top 5 this year jax: mjd...thought he'd produce more as well kcc: bowe... i was avoiding anything on their offense phi: mcnabb looks good again.. i thought he was done with little wr help (d. jackson looks great) pit: holmes (a lot of this is o-line probs), ben is getting no time to throw sf: thought davis would be more involved with the offense tbb: graham.. i thought he would fall. he's done a very nice job so far was: moss... i just have never been a big supporter... putting up great numbers Edited September 29, 2008 by Bier Meister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice717 Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 HenryMuto.com is a terrible website and I would never subscribe again... Also its always too early to give up on LT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalEmpire.com Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 I guess as long as their names are not Moss, Edwards, Holt, Welker, Andre Johnson, Chad Johnson, or Houshmanzadeh, you should draft a WR high. Or Roy Williams.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargerz Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 That Andre Johnson is single-handedly trying to take down all of my fantasy football teams, yet I still hold out hope that he'll turn it around. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargerz Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 I have learned that luck has way more to do with it than we'd like to admit. This was especially apparent last week when Ronnie Brown single-handedly thrashed me in my local. I mean....COME ON!!! Ronnie Brown scored 5 TD's!!!!! INCREDIBLE!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Scorp Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Childress is what we thought he was..... a bad coach!!! Oh and after 2 straight losses the boards Packer fans are not as vocal as they were after 2 straight wins! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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