polksalet Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Here is the low down. I have started a research project which has an accompanying contract with a government agency. Historically the contracted stuff has been a government operation because of the liability. When I say liability imagine causing a 747 laden with people to crash, that is the kind I am talking about. Well the government says they assume all liability and perform contract supervision and quality control. This project pays an extreme frakkin amount of money. My questions are, how am I really protected? Other than obtaining a few billion worth of liability insurance is there any way I can really be protected at all? I mean is the government guarantee worth anything at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cre8tiff Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Here is the low down. I have started a research project which has an accompanying contract with a government agency. Historically the contracted stuff has been a government operation because of the liability. When I say liability imagine causing a 747 laden with people to crash, that is the kind I am talking about. Well the government says they assume all liability and perform contract supervision and quality control. This project pays an extreme frakkin amount of money. My questions are, how am I really protected? Other than obtaining a few billion worth of liability insurance is there any way I can really be protected at all? I mean is the government guarantee worth anything at all? Is this really the sort of question you want answered by a bunch of anonymous people on the Innernets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polksalet Posted October 15, 2008 Author Share Posted October 15, 2008 Is this really the sort of question you want answered by a bunch of anonymous people on the Innernets? Why not? I can separate good data from bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Dude, you need to take that government contract, shove it down your pants, then hop on a board and start rollin' the half pipe bra! That's my legal advice TO THE EXTREME! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muck Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Here is the low down. I have started a research project which has an accompanying contract with a government agency. Historically the contracted stuff has been a government operation because of the liability. When I say liability imagine causing a 747 laden with people to crash, that is the kind I am talking about. Well the government says they assume all liability and perform contract supervision and quality control. This project pays an extreme frakkin amount of money. My questions are, how am I really protected? Other than obtaining a few billion worth of liability insurance is there any way I can really be protected at all? I mean is the government guarantee worth anything at all? Get the guarantee and read it and see who's signature is at the bottom. Start with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiegie Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Here's some advice: Do your freaking job right and you won't have to worry about anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 What are you doing to our airplanes and when are you planning on doing it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westvirginia Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 What are you doing to our airplanes and when are you planning on doing it? +1 Unless of course he's just making sure the toilets flush properly for, um, "higher volume" passengers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrobn26 Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Here's some advice: Do your freaking job right and you won't have to worry about anything. Spoken like a true non-union slug! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polksalet Posted October 15, 2008 Author Share Posted October 15, 2008 What are you doing to our airplanes and when are you planning on doing it? I would be doing what are called obstruction surveys. Basically it entails mapping trees and monitoring their heights in the vicinity of runways. It is pretty simple but if I were to screw up and blow a height and then a plane hits the tree, well you get the picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrobn26 Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 I would be doing what are called obstruction surveys. Basically it entails mapping trees and monitoring their heights in the vicinity of runways. It is pretty simple but if I were to screw up and blow a height and then a plane hits the tree, well you get the picture. Seriously, Polk, If the $$$ is that good, I'd consult a lawyer, have him see what the Gub's coverage REALLY includes and what your exposure COULD be, and what type of insurance you might need. If your assets are little, then do it, but I think you have assets that need protection. And that goes beyond setting up a corporation to avoid losing personal assets. See a good lawyer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballjoe Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 I would be doing what are called obstruction surveys. Basically it entails mapping trees and monitoring their heights in the vicinity of runways. It is pretty simple but if I were to screw up and blow a height and then a plane hits the tree, well you get the picture. Use a calculator and add 10% for good measure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muck Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 I would be doing what are called obstruction surveys. Basically it entails mapping trees and monitoring their heights in the vicinity of runways. It is pretty simple but if I were to screw up and blow a height and then a plane hits the tree, well you get the picture. Always advise the forestry service to cut down the tallest 5-10 trees regardless of how tall they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ts Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 "Basically it entails mapping trees and monitoring their heights in the vicinity of runways. It is pretty simple but if I were to screw up and blow a height and then a plane hits the tree, well you get the picture." How long is the contract valid for and what is the maximum duration of your possible liability? I mean, trees grow, right? So in 10 years, the trees will be taller than when you measured them & submitted the tree height ... so I guess I'd want to be sure that the verbiage in the contract has some sort of "tree growth factor" escape clause, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrograde assault Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 Add a good shrink to your extreme needs to Jethro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShiznit Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Here is the low down. I have started a research project which has an accompanying contract with a government agency. Historically the contracted stuff has been a government operation because of the liability. When I say liability imagine causing a 747 laden with people to crash, that is the kind I am talking about. Well the government says they assume all liability and perform contract supervision and quality control. This project pays an extreme frakkin amount of money. My questions are, how am I really protected? Other than obtaining a few billion worth of liability insurance is there any way I can really be protected at all? I mean is the government guarantee worth anything at all? Typical self reliant person.....making a fortune off my tax dollars.....talk about IRONIC! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Cid Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Seriously, Polk, If the $$$ is that good, I'd consult a lawyer, have him see what the Gub's coverage REALLY includes and what your exposure COULD be, and what type of insurance you might need. If your assets are little, then do it, but I think you have assets that need protection. And that goes beyond setting up a corporation to avoid losing personal assets. See a good lawyer. Good advice here. Without seeing the actual language and supporting documentation, there's no way to tell what the contract is really saying. Paying a lawyer to decipher the language and do any necessary research to find out everything is money well spent IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polksalet Posted October 20, 2008 Author Share Posted October 20, 2008 Typical self reliant person.....making a fortune off my tax dollars.....talk about IRONIC! Truthfully the government would be better off doing it themselves but NOAA is diverting so much money to global warning research they apparently lack the funding to keep planes from inadvertently hitting buildings and trees. I can also tell you that people aren't standing in line to do this. It is an extreme hassle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrobn26 Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Truthfully the government would be better off doing it themselves but NOAA is diverting so much money to global warning research they apparently lack the funding to keep planes from inadvertently hitting buildings and trees. I can also tell you that people aren't standing in line to do this. It is an extreme hassle. Sorry Polk, I think I gave you the best advice! Not bragging, but read it....live by it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satelliteoflovegm Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 I would be doing what are called obstruction surveys. Basically it entails mapping trees and monitoring their heights in the vicinity of runways. It is pretty simple but if I were to screw up and blow a height and then a plane hits the tree, well you get the picture. So if Al qaeda starts buying up water and miracle grow you're screwed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polksalet Posted October 24, 2008 Author Share Posted October 24, 2008 Good advice here. Without seeing the actual language and supporting documentation, there's no way to tell what the contract is really saying. Paying a lawyer to decipher the language and do any necessary research to find out everything is money well spent IMO. your right, now I need to figure out how to find a good lawyer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billay Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 I would assume that if the plane crashes, you are not personally liable for the injuries or deaths that might occur as a result of the crash. That would probably not keep the government from throwing you in prison, however. for breaching the contract, taking their money and not doing your job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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