alexgaddis Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 I got this email from a co-worker: There was a merger between US Bank and Wilmington Bank, and quite a few of our deals were effected. Shouldn't this be "affected"???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatman Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Yes. "Affect" is a verb and "effect" is a noun, generally speaking. Someone can be described as having a flat "affect", and change can be "effected". But not the way it was meant in this email. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 shouldn't it be "quite a few of our deals have been affected."? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexgaddis Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 his response... No, an affect is a character quirk or behavioral pattern, an effect is something that happens because of some sort of cause ;-) I want to prove him wrong because he likes to pretend he is smarter than everyone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 shouldnt it be "and quite a few of our deals are frucked." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 his response... I want to prove him wrong because he likes to pretend he is smarter than everyone... Grammar Rules for Affect and Effect Now that we have the two definitions, how do we know which word to use? Here are a few suggestions to keep in mind: 1. If you are talking about a result, then use the word "effect." * Example: What effect did the loss have on the team? 2. It is appropriate to use the word "effect" if one of these words is used immediately before the word: into, no, take, the, any, an, or and. * Example: The prescribed medication had no effect on the patient's symptoms. * Example: In analyzing a situation, it is important to take the concepts of cause and effect into consideration. 3. If you want to describe something that was caused or brought about, the right word to use is effect. * Example: The new manager effected some positive changes in the office. (This means that the new manager caused some positive changes to take place in the office.) 4. Affect can be used as a noun to describe facial expression. * Example: The young man with schizophrenia had a flat affect. * Example: The woman took the news of her husband's sudden death with little affect. 5. Affect can also be used as a verb. Use it when trying to describe influencing someone or something rather than causing it. * Example: How does the crime rate affect hiring levels by local police forces? * Example: The weather conditions will affect the number of people who come to the county fair this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 (edited) Tell him to go affect himself Edited April 16, 2009 by whomper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 his response... I want to prove him wrong because he likes to pretend he is smarter than everyone... For a link for dmarc's response, as he may ask for one: http://www.yourdictionary.com/grammar-rule...ct-grammar.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 I also don't think that there should be a comma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatman Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 I also don't think that there should be a comma. Good catch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexgaddis Posted April 17, 2009 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 I also don't think that there should be a comma. That settles it, he's a jackass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Old skool grammar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Like Soup Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I was on the affect bandwagon reading through this...but...isn't your colleague talking about a result?...hence the use of effect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneymakers Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Old skool grammar? This b noise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatman Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I was on the affect bandwagon reading through this...but...isn't your colleague talking about a result?...hence the use of effect? The object is "deals", the things that are being affected. The deals did not "feel the effects of the merger" or something of the like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Like Soup Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 The object is "deals", the things that are being affected. The deals did not "feel the effects of the merger" or something of the like. Ah, got it. I've always hated affect and effect. Almost as much as who and whom. I hate when people use further instead of farther. It is widespread and growing fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo mama Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 I want to prove him wrong because he likes to pretend he is smarter than everyone... So which Huddler is he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Like Soup Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 So which Huddler is he? Az? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 shouldnt it be "and quite a few of our deals are frucked." That is what I'd do. Go with what you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holy Roller Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 So which Huddler is he? Yukon obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxfactor Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Yukon obviously. Yukon's mistakes wouldn't be so subtle. It would look more like this: "Their wasa merjer bitween Usbank and welminton bank and kwite fyou of r deels wur afektid" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Ah, got it. I've always hated affect and effect. Almost as much as who and whom. I hate when people use further instead of farther. It is widespread and growing fast. Then and Than is my cross to bear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoopazz Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Axe him where he is getting his information regarding this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holy Roller Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Axe him where he is getting his information regarding this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 So, per dmarc's quote, the co-worker was correct in using effected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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