piratesownninjas Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 thank you, I heard on the radio just a bit ago that he's pretty much like Jon Runyan with his style of play and aggressiveness....but either comparison is fine with me... He was talking about how he used to be a defenseman when he played hockey in HS. The fact that a few years later he would play at a JUCO, then transfer to Baylor, then be a first round pick is an awesome story. He'll be extremely easy to root for though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myhousekey Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 http://twitter.com/Jay_Glazer FWIW, Sean Payton says he spoke w Reggie Bush and says, "He's a dynamic player, a difference-maker for us and definitely in our plans." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted April 29, 2011 Author Share Posted April 29, 2011 I'm a Mayock guy but he doesn't have a round 2 mock. So here's Kiper's round 2 mock: We knew the first round mock draft would be blown to bits the first time a trade went down. But why not have a little more fun and take a look at how the second round might go based on what we've heard, and just a logical matching of value and needs. So take this with a grain of salt, but here's one interpretation of how things could play out on Friday. New England Patriots (from CAR) Brooks Reed, DE, Arizona Natural pass-rushing threat in the 3-4 defensive scheme. Buffalo Bills Martez Wilson, LB, IllinoisBills need help at linebacker, Wilson is best interior linebacker in the draft. Cincinnati Bengals Andy Dalton, QB, TCUGreat value here at a position they have to address given Carson Palmer's status Denver Broncos Aaron Williams, CB, TexasBroncos need help at cornerback and Champ Bailey isn't getting any younger. Cleveland Browns Titus Young, WR, Boise StateYoung is a guy I thought could slip into the first round. Browns add another target for Colt McCoy. Arizona Cardinals Kyle Rudolph, TE, Notre DameBest tight end in the draft to a team that needs one. Tennessee Titans Bruce Carter, LB, UNCCarter has to play in a 4-3 system, but he should be a starter in this league for a long time. Dallas Cowboys Brandon Harris, CB, Miami (FL)Cowboys need help at corner. Harris is a borderline first-round talent. Washington Redskins Ryan Williams, RB, Virginia TechRedskins get the second-best running back in the draft. He could have easily slipped into the first round. Houston Texans Rahim Moore, S, UCLAHouston's secondary was a disaster in 2010. Moore is the best safety in this class. Minnesota Vikings Da'Quan Bowers, DE, ClemsonIf Bowers is healthy, this is a potential top-five pick. Tremendous value at this point and worth the risk. Detroit Lions Curtis Brown, CB, TexasLions get a first-round steal, address an obvious need in Round 2. San Francisco 49ers Colin Kaepernick, QB, NevadaSan Francisco passed on a quarterback in Round 1. Here's an arm for Jim Harbaugh to develop. Denver Broncos (from MIA) Christian Ballard, DT, IowaMight be a bit of a reach here, but Denver needs help on the defensive line. St. Louis Rams Leonard Hankerson, WR, Miami (FL)Sam Bradford gets another much-needed offensive target to work with. Oakland Raiders Stephen Paea, DT, Oregon StateOakland needs a clogger on the defensive line. The powerful Paea fits the bill. Washington Redskins (from JAX) Torrey Smith, WR, MarylandWashington needs to find some solutions at wide receiver. Smith is a good start. San Diego Chargers Randall Cobb, WR, KentuckyPhilip Rivers can make it work with anybody, but San Diego could use more talent at wide receiver. Tampa Bay Buccaneers Jah Reid, OT, UCFTampa Bay adds some protection as they continue to develop that offense. New York Giants Quan Sturdivant, LB, UNCGiants are desperate for help at linebacker. Sturdivant should have an immediate impact. Indianapolis Colts Jabaal Sheard, DE, PittsburghColts need to add bulk up front. Sheard offers good value here. Philadelphia Eagles Brandon Burton, CB, UtahI thought Philadelphia might target a cornerback in Round 1. The Eagles get one instead in Round 2. Kansas City Chiefs Orlando Franklin, G, Miami (FL)Added protection for Matt Cassel and a good run blocker as Scott Pioli builds his lines. New England Patriots (from NOR) Rodney Hudson, C, Florida State New England needed help along the offensive line. It got Nate Solder in Round 1. It'll get more help here. Seattle Seahawks Ryan Mallett, QB, ArkansasSeattle has uncertainty at the quarterback position. Mallett has a first-round arm. He's worth the risk here. Baltimore Ravens Greg Little, WR, UNCBaltimore needs a deep threat. Little can provide just that. Cleveland Browns (from ATL) Justin Houston, DE, GeorgiaHouston is a great value this late in Round 2. He's a tweener but offers a lot of potential as a pass rusher. New England Patriots Mikel Leshoure, RB, IllinoisNew England opted to pass on Mark Ingram in Round 1. Leshoure adds a new dimension to the Pats' running game. San Diego Chargers (from NYJ) Ras-I Dowling, CB, VirginiaA first-round talent that was injured most of last season. Great value pick here. Chicago Bears Marvin Austin, DT, UNCBears get great value here at the end of Round 2. Pittsburgh Steelers Benjamin Ijalana, T, VillanovaPittsburgh needs help on the offensive line. Ijalana has good versatility, can move inside. Green Bay Packers Johnny Patrick, CB, LouisvilleGreen Bay are aging at cornerback. Patrick gives them an infusion of youth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menudo Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 I'm a Mayock guy but he doesn't have a round 2 mock. So here's Kiper's round 2 mock: We knew the first round mock draft would be blown to bits the first time a trade went down. But why not have a little more fun and take a look at how the second round might go based on what we've heard, and just a logical matching of value and needs. So take this with a grain of salt, but here's one interpretation of how things could play out on Friday. New England Patriots (from CAR) Brooks Reed, DE, Arizona Natural pass-rushing threat in the 3-4 defensive scheme. Buffalo Bills Martez Wilson, LB, IllinoisBills need help at linebacker, Wilson is best interior linebacker in the draft. Cincinnati Bengals Andy Dalton, QB, TCUGreat value here at a position they have to address given Carson Palmer's status Denver Broncos Aaron Williams, CB, TexasBroncos need help at cornerback and Champ Bailey isn't getting any younger. Cleveland Browns Titus Young, WR, Boise StateYoung is a guy I thought could slip into the first round. Browns add another target for Colt McCoy. Arizona Cardinals Kyle Rudolph, TE, Notre DameBest tight end in the draft to a team that needs one. Tennessee Titans Bruce Carter, LB, UNCCarter has to play in a 4-3 system, but he should be a starter in this league for a long time. Dallas Cowboys Brandon Harris, CB, Miami (FL)Cowboys need help at corner. Harris is a borderline first-round talent. Washington Redskins Ryan Williams, RB, Virginia TechRedskins get the second-best running back in the draft. He could have easily slipped into the first round. Houston Texans Rahim Moore, S, UCLAHouston's secondary was a disaster in 2010. Moore is the best safety in this class. Minnesota Vikings Da'Quan Bowers, DE, ClemsonIf Bowers is healthy, this is a potential top-five pick. Tremendous value at this point and worth the risk. Detroit Lions Curtis Brown, CB, TexasLions get a first-round steal, address an obvious need in Round 2. San Francisco 49ers Colin Kaepernick, QB, NevadaSan Francisco passed on a quarterback in Round 1. Here's an arm for Jim Harbaugh to develop. Denver Broncos (from MIA) Christian Ballard, DT, IowaMight be a bit of a reach here, but Denver needs help on the defensive line. St. Louis Rams Leonard Hankerson, WR, Miami (FL)Sam Bradford gets another much-needed offensive target to work with. Oakland Raiders Stephen Paea, DT, Oregon StateOakland needs a clogger on the defensive line. The powerful Paea fits the bill. Washington Redskins (from JAX) Torrey Smith, WR, MarylandWashington needs to find some solutions at wide receiver. Smith is a good start. San Diego Chargers Randall Cobb, WR, KentuckyPhilip Rivers can make it work with anybody, but San Diego could use more talent at wide receiver. Tampa Bay Buccaneers Jah Reid, OT, UCFTampa Bay adds some protection as they continue to develop that offense. New York Giants Quan Sturdivant, LB, UNCGiants are desperate for help at linebacker. Sturdivant should have an immediate impact. Indianapolis Colts Jabaal Sheard, DE, PittsburghColts need to add bulk up front. Sheard offers good value here. Philadelphia Eagles Brandon Burton, CB, UtahI thought Philadelphia might target a cornerback in Round 1. The Eagles get one instead in Round 2. Kansas City Chiefs Orlando Franklin, G, Miami (FL)Added protection for Matt Cassel and a good run blocker as Scott Pioli builds his lines. New England Patriots (from NOR) Rodney Hudson, C, Florida State New England needed help along the offensive line. It got Nate Solder in Round 1. It'll get more help here. Seattle Seahawks Ryan Mallett, QB, ArkansasSeattle has uncertainty at the quarterback position. Mallett has a first-round arm. He's worth the risk here. Baltimore Ravens Greg Little, WR, UNCBaltimore needs a deep threat. Little can provide just that. Cleveland Browns (from ATL) Justin Houston, DE, GeorgiaHouston is a great value this late in Round 2. He's a tweener but offers a lot of potential as a pass rusher. New England Patriots Mikel Leshoure, RB, IllinoisNew England opted to pass on Mark Ingram in Round 1. Leshoure adds a new dimension to the Pats' running game. San Diego Chargers (from NYJ) Ras-I Dowling, CB, VirginiaA first-round talent that was injured most of last season. Great value pick here. Chicago Bears Marvin Austin, DT, UNCBears get great value here at the end of Round 2. Pittsburgh Steelers Benjamin Ijalana, T, VillanovaPittsburgh needs help on the offensive line. Ijalana has good versatility, can move inside. Green Bay Packers Johnny Patrick, CB, LouisvilleGreen Bay are aging at cornerback. Patrick gives them an infusion of youth. If Dowling gets snagged two picks prior to the Steelers............I'm going to be very angry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Would LOVE to see the Vikings get Bowers that late! Oh man... setting myself up for heartbreak here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddahj Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Didn't the Ravens run out of time on their pick last night? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Didn't the Ravens run out of time on their pick last night? They did . . . the Bears screwed up a trade with teh Ravens so they missed the time frame. Now the Ravens are pissed and want the Bears 4th round pick as compensation. Sounds good to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furd Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Would LOVE to see the Vikings get Bowers that late! Oh man... setting myself up for heartbreak here. I'm hoping that he drops just one more spot. Bowers, Suh, Fairley, Vanden Bosch and Cliff Avril would make quite an impressive defensive line. I could probably take the f'n off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddahj Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 They did . . . the Bears screwed up a trade with teh Ravens so they missed the time frame. Now the Ravens are pissed and want the Bears 4th round pick as compensation. Sounds good to me! You have to be aware of what's going on around you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 You have to be aware of what's going on around you. They clearly didnt have their head on a swivel Rookie mistake . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpholmes Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 I still think the ancient one will make them take Mallet's arm. It is too natural of a fit for them. Looks like you could be right on this one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Would LOVE to see the Vikings get Bowers that late! Oh man... setting myself up for heartbreak here. well, they're on the clock and he's available... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddahj Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 well, they're on the clock and he's available... nope...TE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 (edited) ok broncos.....bowers and either paea or austin. build that front 7. Edited April 29, 2011 by Azazello1313 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Mr. Suh might have something to say about Chris Farley's attitude if it becomes an issue. Forgot the last post. Dude! I know it's been 15+ years since anyone talked smack against your team but that's no reason to fold like a cheap suit at the first push back in over a decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furd Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Dude! I know it's been 15+ years since anyone talked smack against your team but that's no reason to fold like a cheap suit at the first push back in over a decade. You have no idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theprofessor Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 I'm hoping that he drops just one more spot. Bowers, Suh, Fairley, Vanden Bosch and Cliff Avril would make quite an impressive defensive line. I could probably take the f'n off. Detroit continues to impress with their drafts. That front line is going to dominate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 (edited) So am I. Bad attitude, and he already looks like he's getting fat. You'll have the on this one in about 24 regular season games. Yea I agree. Chris Farley Edited April 30, 2011 by MikesVikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Mike Mayock had this one pegged in his mock. With Denver in shambles on the defensive side of the ball, and a ton of DT's in the draft you take Miller at one, then Austin or Piea in the 2nd. They'll get a stout DT at 2, but have bookend pass rushers in Elvis and Miller. four picks in the 1st three rounds and the broncos didn't draft a DT...while I love Miller as a player I don't think he is a great fit for the Broncos Dumerville has no business playing LB in a 4-3 scheme. None. Much better use of talent to put him at DE and draft a LB. This You may be right, but what makes you say that? I've never seen him in that roll and when he moved into OLB in the 3-4, he was a freaking monster. Move him to the weak side with his speed and he could be crazy good on pass rush. Dude you are and need to read up on the responsibilities that positions have in the 4-3 vs the 3-4 Link (from 2007 so ignore the teams and the D's it says they play but the article will help you understand the positions and their responsibilities better. 4-3 OLBs have to - repeat, HAVE TO - have coverage ability, and that means TEs and RBs, maybe even an occasional slot receiver. Dumervil doesn't have that ability. Let him put his hand in the dirt & rush and you are using him to his strength. Even then, he should be no more than a situational rusher given how much ground he gives on running plays. He's not a reader, shedder, & scraper. He's a close-contact speed rusher. This, again! That's why I suggested moving him to the weak side. He has great speed and putting him on the weak side would give him that cushion to bounce of the TE/DE blocking and create a ton of pressure on the QB. As a DE in the 4-3, I think he was good but nothing exceptional. He almost bloomed when he moved into the OLB position. Granted, I think he will do fine in the DE, but I think we could have benefited utilizing the talent we already have and adding additions we are very weak at. Just to reiterate, I like Miller allot and he will be a fine addition to Denver. But as you mentioned about Dumervil's weaknesses, Miller also is from a 3-4 background and will need to adapt to the new scheme. Same as I said earlier and fwiw, I don't think Miller is a great fit for Denver and would have been a much better fit for a 3-4 team as a rush OLB, ala Ware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Perhaps they can get a big time QB in next years draft. Think they could pull the string on Stanzi today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebartender Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 I agree totally. I'm loving the Carimi pick! For once the Bears took the right guy!! We got lucky because if the Bears wouldn't have botched that trade we'd have Baldwin instead. I was really hoping that the Eagles took Carimi at 23. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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