Bier Meister Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 i think faulk is often underrated on this list.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Jim Brown 5.2 yards per carryBarry Sanders 5.0 yards per carry No one else on the top 10 rushing yards are higher than 4.4 yards per carry (Sweetness & Dickerson) Emmitt Smith 4.2 yards per carry ETA: I can't speak for Jim Brown, as it was before my time. However, Barry Sanders didn't have an offense or offensive line that was even 1/4 as good as what Emmitt was running behind. Sayers was 5.0 YPC and 11 per reception. He had more inside power than Sanders and was IMO just as elusive, but the difference was Sanders displayed his elusiveness often while not gaining any yards, Sayers always moved forward, no behind the LOS dancing like Sanders. He had very few negative yard carries, while I still say, (and Avernus will now go ballistic) Sanders often killed drives by dancing around, but eventually breaking off a long one, most often to be tackled inside the 5 or 10 yard line. Then he could not punch it in. Sayers was better than Sanders, he didn't have the limitations of drive killing negative yardage plays Sander so often had. Sayers isn't in the top for career rushing yards due to his short career, but he was hands down better than Sanders IMO. Brown dominated. I don't like the guy, but he was the best, if one insists on making era to era best lists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bier Meister Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Sayers was 5.0 YPC and 11 per reception. He had more inside power than Sanders and was IMO just as elusive, but the difference was Sanders displayed his elusiveness often while not gaining any yards, Sayers always moved forward, no behind the LOS dancing like Sanders. He had very few negative yard carries, while I still say, (and Avernus will now go ballistic) Sanders often killed drives by dancing around, but eventually breaking off a long one, most often to be tackled inside the 5 or 10 yard line. Then he could not punch it in. Sayers was better than Sanders, he didn't have the limitations of drive killing negative yardage plays Sander so often had. Sayers isn't in the top for career rushing yards due to his short career, but he was hands down better than Sanders IMO. Brown dominated. I don't like the guy, but he was the best, if one insists on making era to era best lists. you may have skimmed over the mention of o-line in this discussion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Keep it simple Name just the back you think is the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bier Meister Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Keep it simple Name just the back you think is the best. simple is not simple. the top backs have different attributes. gun to my head--> Smith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bier Meister Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 simple is not simple. the top backs have different attributes. gun to my head--> S anders i love d's sense of hughmor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 (edited) Smith ROFFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Edited October 25, 2011 by Rovers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecondString Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I did a google search for "top nfl running backs of all-time" I looked at articles from the "experts" from the first two pages. I found 11 lists, and none had Emmitt higher than 3rd best all-time. I guess they are all 'haters' too. The only people I've ever heard call Emmitt the best running back of all-time are Cowboys fans. Emmitt #6 http://bleacherreport.com/articles/762666-...istory/page/102 Emmitt #3 http://unassistedsports.com/top-10-nfl-run...ks-of-all-time/ Emmitt #4 http://bleacherreport.com/articles/190579-...rs-1959-to-2009 Emmitt #4 http://www.mensfitness.com/sports/mf-coach...all-time?page=2 Emmitt #4 http://www.ranker.com/crowdranked-list/the...cks-of-all-time Emmitt #5 http://www.craveonline.com/sports/articles...ll-time?start=1 Emmitt #3 http://www.the-top-tens.com/lists/best-foo...of-all-time.asp Emmitt #8 http://football.about.com/od/legends/tp/To...Of-All-Time.htm Emmitt #4 http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/6907909/page/3/ Emmitt #3 http://top5lists.net/the-top-5-greatest-nf...ks-of-all-time/ Emmitt #3 http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedi.../content.3.html Damn good work man...appreciate it. And I'm standing behind Barry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I thought Qaddafi got killed? These dictators have nine lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Damn good work man...appreciate it. And I'm standing behind Barry. His hate fuels his research Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecondString Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 His hate fuels his research Looks to me like all he did here was to post other people's findings. Too bad those findings don't substantiate your opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Looks to me like all he did here was to post other people's findings. Too bad those findings don't substantiate your opinions. You're right. The opinions he found didn't substantiate my opinion . Therefore we must rely on the facts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecondString Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 You're right. The opinions he found didn't substantiate my opinion . Therefore we must rely on the facts Your "facts" are composed of one statistic. There are many factors that go into any one person's opinion as to the original question, "who is the best RB of all time?". Obviously, there are a lot of people, including many who write about this sport for a living (it's their day job, they get paid good $$$ to evaluate these kinds of things) that disagree with you. Doesn't mean you're wrong, doesn't mean they're right, it's just an opinion, which is why it's kinda fun to discuss this kind of thing. No way you're ever going to prove an opinion. We all have our reasons for believing the way we do (some reasons are statistical and intellectual, others may be emotional). And clearly, it's more important to some of us than for others that other people agree with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Your "facts" are composed of one statistic. What other statistics would you like me to bring up ? The rushing titles, league MVP, 3 superbowl rings, superbowl MVP ? Which one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 This is one of those "point at the scoreboard" sort of arguments. Advantage Smith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecondString Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 What other statistics would you like me to bring up ? The rushing titles, league MVP, 3 superbowl rings, superbowl MVP ? Which one However many you need to bring up to continue to convince yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I loved watching Emmitt Smith too. I just think people get caught up in the fact that he quietly handed the ref the ball after he scored and they forget the fact that he quit on his team and fans unceremoniously Do you prefer the Brett Favre "quit on your team WITH ceremony" approach? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 This is one of those "point at the scoreboard" sort of arguments. Advantage Smith. Nah, not really. Unless you wish to also endorse Brett Favre as all-time greatest QB (leader in yds and tds and MVPs) and Bruce Smith as greatest DL (leader in sacks). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan827 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 This is one of those "point at the scoreboard" sort of arguments. Advantage Smith. When the question is "who has the best stats?" , then yes you can play point at the scoreboard. Emmit Smith was the best back of all time at one thing: Staying Healthy. I'm by no means saying he was horrible, but he was not top 5 imho. He averaged less per carry than alot of great backs and had probably the best o-line out of any of the top 10 backs. Not to mention an amazing passing game to take that safety out of the box. Any objective opinion will point clearly to backs such as Smith, Peyton, Sayers, Faulk, and Smith. (My personal top runningback is a tie with Emmitt Smith and Emmitt Smith.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Bo Jackson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kris N Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 (edited) its a 2 man battle between barry and jim. no one else should be in the conversation. these 2 men were untouchable and truly 1 of a kind. they did more with less. i'm glad barry didnt play with emmitt's o line because we would have missed out on at least half of his amazing 1 vs 11 runs where he cuts back and forth and makes every single defender miss him because none of them were blocked. every other back talked about here was GREAT, but we are talking about the BEST. having the most yards does not make you the best (proven by the favre comments above, he is most certainly NOT the best qb), but holding the records makes you the most consistent and durable for sure. when you cut away all the team biases, era biases and "expert website opinions", its a very simple debate.......barry and jim, thats what this boils down to. why does it change every name to emmitt?? that is lame. Edited October 25, 2011 by Kris N Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawks21 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Emmitt had the greatest career of any back to ever play, but you have to be widely considered the best back in the league for a good handful of years to qualify for the best all-time. At his best, nobody was better than Jackson. Best I ever saw. Peterson will find himself in the conversation at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEC=UGA Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I say Barry Sanders, Jim Brown, Walter Payton, Emmit, AP, Sayers, OJ, Dickerson, Campbell, LT, Faulk, Fred Taylor, Shaun Alexander, Curtis Martin, Jerome Bettis and Terrell Davis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 Jim Brown, Jim Brown and then Jim Brown. What a silly excercise in homerism with the word filter BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 Jim Brown, Jim Brown and then Jim Brown. What a silly excercise in homerism with the word filter BS. Lighten up Francis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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