Fatman Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 (edited) http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1996404 This seems surprising to me...I'd be frustrated too, but I'm amazed that the Skins are just willing to release their best receiver at the age of 27. He's been injury plagued lately (toe), but come on, they're supposed to let Gardner go, too. Who the hell are they going to throw it to? Cooley? McCants? Sheesh. (Randy Moss? Hmmm....) PS - The prospects of Portis as my second keeper just keep getting sweeter and sweeter... Edited February 21, 2005 by Fatman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skrappy1 Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 Wowser. :bigshock: He'll have no problem finding work. The Jets would be nuts not to pursue him again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Vatican Hitsquad Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 Wowser. :bigshock: He'll have no problem finding work. The Jets would be nuts not to pursue him again. 706229[/snapback] It's no tthat he NOT their best reciever, it's that he hasn't proven to be worth that gigantic contract they signed him for. Best move is to cut ties with him now. Be funny to see him sign back with the Jets for far less than he would have gotten from them had he stayed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 Burress, Porter, Mason, Coles. With the Ravens $17 million under, I'd expect one of these guys in purple and black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatman Posted February 21, 2005 Author Share Posted February 21, 2005 Burress, Porter, Mason, Coles. With the Ravens $17 million under, I'd expect one of these guys in purple and black. 706264[/snapback] You'd have to think so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 He had 90 catches but cant stretch the field like he could a couple years ago. His toe is worse than people think and he is expensive. I wish they could get some trade value for him though. At least a pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skrappy1 Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 Burress, Porter, Mason, Coles. With the Ravens $17 million under, I'd expect one of these guys in purple and black. 706264[/snapback] The NY football Giants definitely need to sign one of those guys too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 Redskins may be trying to head off their salary cap problems that are coming in a few years. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dabears Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 I think DaBears have their eyes on Burress. Rumor going around anyway. Our WR's are in need of a lot of help. We are 15m under and am pretty sure Terrell is staying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAUgrad Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 (edited) Denver could use one of these guys as well. I wonder if his toe really is worse than they are letting on. That will show up in the physical though!! Edited February 21, 2005 by NAUgrad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylive5 Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 From Washington Post: Washington Redskins wide receiver Laveranues Coles has had at least two extensive conversations with Coach Joe Gibbs since the season ended which are expected to lead to his release from the team, according to sources familiar with the situation. Sources said last night that Gibbs, Redskins owner Daniel Snyder and Roosevelt Barnes, the agent for Coles, have reached an oral agreement that will likely lead to his release, making the 27-year-old wideout an unrestricted free agent. Coles met privately with Gibbs at Redskins Park to express his unhappiness with the offense and a desire to leave the club. Gibbs has acknowledged meeting twice with Coles, including earlier this month, but he turned reticent and cryptic when asked about the possibility of Coles's departure. "We had a couple of good talks. That's the only statement I want to make," Gibbs said last week. "Me and Laveranues talked, and we have a good understanding." Coles caught a career-best 90 passes last season, the third-most in franchise history behind Art Monk. Yet the five-year veteran became frustrated by the lack of a deep passing game. The Redskins finished with the 30th-ranked offense in the league, and Gibbs's ball-control philosophy coupled with a 6-10 record made Coles miserable, said one person with knowledge of the situation. Gibbs, who also serves as team president, intends to accommodate Coles's request instead of keeping a player who prefers to be elsewhere, said two other sources who requested anonymity. Should Coles be released, one source said, he would return part of his $13 million signing bonus to minimize salary cap ramifications. Tomorrow is the first day that NFL teams are allowed to waive players. Sources said that late this past season Coles requested a trade after meeting with Snyder and Vice President of Football Operations Vinny Cerrato, since they were the two most responsible for acquiring him in 2003. But after discussions with Gibbs, a collective decision was apparently made to waive Coles. Coles, who has changed his cell phone number, could not be reached for comment. Barnes didn't return several calls last week to his Roanoke, Ind., office. Snyder, through spokesperson Karl Swanson, referred questions to Gibbs. Reached last night, Cerrato declined to comment. The Redskins signed Coles to a seven-year, $35 million deal as a restricted free agent from the New York Jets. At the time, the $13 million signing bonus was the richest in Redskins history, forcing the Jets to settle for Washington's first-round pick (No. 13 overall) instead of matching it. The Redskins had envisioned the 5-foot-11, 193-pound Coles using his combination of speed and quickness to stretch the field, allowing Rod Gardner to exploit single coverage. In Steve Spurrier's pass-happy offense, Coles responded with 82 catches for 1,204 and six touchdowns. He also made the Pro Bowl. Gibbs's offense was geared toward tailback Clinton Portis, but the Redskins foresaw Coles posting big numbers because of the need to occasionally go downfield. According to Joe Bugel -- Washington's assistant head coach of offense -- Coles had the third-most passes in the NFL thrown in his direction. "The offense was friendly to Laveranues Coles," Bugel said last week. "We fed him." However, most of the throws were intermediate passes and screens designed for Coles to gain yards after the catch. Coles averaged a career-low 10.6 yards per catch. And his sole touchdown came on a halfback option pass from Clinton Portis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcmast Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 With all these WRs out there, it seems like the Vikings could trade Moss for DEF help only and sign one of them. They have plenty of cap room....just don't have an owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godtomsatan Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 Redskins may be trying to head off their salary cap problems that are coming in a few years. . . 706287[/snapback] How does taking a $9 million cap hit in 2005 by releasing Coles help this out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauders11 Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 Burress, Porter, Mason, Coles. With the Ravens $17 million under, I'd expect one of these guys in purple and black. 706264[/snapback] don't forget Mu-Hammy, likely to be released..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 Coles is a whiner, always has been, and will continue to be. Now, if he was Moss or T.O., maybe he gets away with it. He whined when he was a Jet, he whined enough as a Redskin to be shown to the door. For a guy with a chronic injury, he should not be telling coaches how to run the offense. Remeber too, that the Redshin O ine suffered some injuries last year, and they barely had time to throw deep, the QB was getting big pressure before downfield plays could develop. The guy has no patience, and not as much talent as he thinks he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatman Posted February 21, 2005 Author Share Posted February 21, 2005 How does taking a $9 million cap hit in 2005 by releasing Coles help this out? 706462[/snapback] Not entirely sure, but I've heard that he's going to pay back part of his signing bonus to ease the cap hit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godtomsatan Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 Not entirely sure, but I've heard that he's going to pay back part of his signing bonus to ease the cap hit... 706518[/snapback] Why would he do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatman Posted February 21, 2005 Author Share Posted February 21, 2005 Why would he do that? 706520[/snapback] So that the Redskins would agree to release him. He's still under contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godtomsatan Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 So that the Redskins would agree to release him. He's still under contract. 706530[/snapback] Exactly, so if the Redskins keep him, he gets paid whatever he's under contract for and gets to keep his signing bonus. Why would Coles want the Redskins to release him? That makes no sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 Exactly, so if the Redskins keep him, he gets paid whatever he's under contract for and gets to keep his signing bonus. Why would Coles want the Redskins to release him? That makes no sense. 706538[/snapback] Did you read the article posted above? HE WANTS OUT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 From Washington Post: Coles met privately with Gibbs at Redskins Park to express his unhappiness with the offense and a desire to leave the club. . . Should Coles be released, one source said, he would return part of his $13 million signing bonus to minimize salary cap ramifications. Tomorrow is the first day that NFL teams are allowed to waive players. 706297[/snapback] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 Coles is a whiner, always has been, and will continue to be. Now, if he was Moss or T.O., maybe he gets away with it. He whined when he was a Jet, he whined enough as a Redskin to be shown to the door. For a guy with a chronic injury, he should not be telling coaches how to run the offense. Remeber too, that the Redshin O ine suffered some injuries last year, and they barely had time to throw deep, the QB was getting big pressure before downfield plays could develop. The guy has no patience, and not as much talent as he thinks he does. 706480[/snapback] That is why he wants out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever in debt to mo lewis Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 in chapter 10 of Patriot Reign...Belichick was at the combine two years ago and a gm asked him what hed give for Coles..he said "Id give up your second rounder for him"....david patten is a free agent... but givens,coles,and branch...seems far fetched, but i just thought id throw it out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ryan Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 (edited) in chapter 10 of Patriot Reign...Belichick was at the combine two years ago and a gm asked him what hed give for Coles..he said "Id give up your second rounder for him"....david patten is a free agent... but givens,coles,and branch...seems far fetched, but i just thought id throw it out there 706627[/snapback] Coles does not fit the team mold and will want a kings ransom to play there, and wont be happy as much as they spread the ball around. I could actually see Dillon pulling a "Michael Westbrook/Stephen Davis lights out" on Coles if this ever happened. Edited February 21, 2005 by Sgt. Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 Coles does not fit the team mold 706647[/snapback] Team mold this guy is Hines Ward with a little worse QB what else could you want. Toughest receiver in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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