BadgerBacker Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Isn't Cutler's agent Bus Cook? Cook has such a great track record of representing stable, no-drama QB's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 (edited) Well done and welcome to Denver Coach! Sorry, but I Think you are way off base here. Cutler stated that he had been at Dove Valley numerous times in the past few weeks talking with the new coaching staff. Then he finds out from a newpaper article that he's involved in trade talks? That's just stupid when it involves your franchise QB. If it were TB and/or NE calling and throwing spaghetti aginst the wall to see what sticks, that's exactly what McDaniels and/or Xanders should have identified it for what it was - since I can only assume the leak came from those directions and the DEN management couldn't be so incredibly stupid that they'd fly the rumor themselves - and stated that they had no intention of moving Cutler unless some incredibly lucrative offer came by (like the Walker/MIN deal or the Ricky Williams deal). Instead, McDaniel decides to play cloak & dagger behind his franchise QB's back - and I can only assume that he was dumb enough to think that the rumor wouldn't get out. This is a major faux pas by the DEN management and a clear indication that the HC and GM are rookies and need some significant education. Cutler will get over this in a couple of days, just like what happened when Shanahan was canned. But McDaniel s hasn't helped himself one iota by losing the trust of his stud QB before OTAs have even begun. That's stupidity, plain & simple. Oh, and hey, McDaniels & Xanders, where in the Seven Hells are the D linemen you're going to need to populate the line in the switch to the 3-4? Instead we get an aging starting S and bunch of depth? This is not a very good start, boys..... Edited March 2, 2009 by Bronco Billy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Here's the deal. Would I ever trade Cutler for Cassel straight up? Absolutely not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Waffle Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 *RUMOR* on ESPN radio just now -- Tirico show -- they said that Cutler asked for a trade when his QB coach was fired in January. Hmmmm....the proverbial plot thickens. Cutler is coming off rather Pop Warnerish about this entire fiasco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 MORE RUMORS just listening on ESPN radio who said Denver was offering their 2nd round pick to NE for Cassel. Apparently, the deal from NE's perspective was pretty much the same from all sources. The first round pick from TB was going to be kept by Denver if the deal got done. IF this is true, then why didn't Denver just up the offer with a 2nd and a 3rd to NE? (since NE apparently didn't want the financial consequence of a first round pick.) I don't see how you shop your 'franchise' QB and not get the deal done? This franchise has gone in the sh1tter The owner, Bowlen, fired Shanny cuz he had too much power and refused to resign from the Exec. VP position... only to give the same power to the new HC who subsquently fired the Front Office executives to put another newbie in the GM position. I'm guessing they did all this without talking to the VP of Public Relations... who, at least, could've told them that this was a huge mess in the waiting, so either don't even consider it or get it done at any cost. I'll start rooting for Detroit. Have fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 I'll start rooting for Detroit. Don't you also root for Miami? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted March 2, 2009 Author Share Posted March 2, 2009 (edited) Here's the deal. Would I ever trade Cutler for Cassel straight up? Absolutely not. Mel Kiper Jr. disagrees with you. I heard this morning an audio clip that he didn't like Cutler coming out and he still doesn't. He's very high on Cassel. For whatever that is worth. Edited March 2, 2009 by CaP'N GRuNGe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 McNabb to Denver Cutler to Philly There. Problem solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted March 2, 2009 Author Share Posted March 2, 2009 McNabb to DenverCutler to Philly There. Problem solved. Cassell to Denver Cutler to Minnesota Warner to KC McNabb to Arizona TJax to Philly Even better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 (edited) Aren't you concerned with what's going on? Sure I am, but it beats the snot out of Little Napolean living off of 2 SB wins a decade ago and putting up exactly 1 playoff win since then (after all, we aren't Cowboys' fans here who are satisfied with just getting to the playoffs). Any change has to be good from the permanent mediocrity DEN has been mired in for 10 years. Even if McDaniels sucks, at least it's not status quo. McDaniels would be a a lot easier to change out in a couple of years if need be, and hopefully he'll assemble even a mediocre D by then, which is a damn sight better than what Shanahan let his D morph into. Edited March 2, 2009 by Bronco Billy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 McNabb to DenverCutler to Philly There. Problem solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 A QB with at least 4 more years as an elite QB that has taken his team to 5 NFC Championship Games with 2nd rate WR's and you ???? Hey I'd LOVE for Cutler to stay in Denver and keep throwing temper tantrums ..... all the while Rivers calling him out across the sidelines 2x's a year. Yep....would love that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 This franchise has gone in the sh1tter The owner, Bowlen, fired Shanny cuz he had too much power and refused to resign from the Exec. VP position... only to give the same power to the new HC who subsquently fired the Front Office executives to put another newbie in the GM position. I'm guessing they did all this without talking to the VP of Public Relations... who, at least, could've told them that this was a huge mess in the waiting, so either don't even consider it or get it done at any cost. it's invariably what happens when, seduced by the vague empty promise of "change", you give enormous amounts of power to a slick, inexperienced newb. I'm trying and failing to come up with other real-world examples, but I think you still get the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 A QB with at least 4 more years as an elite QB that has taken his team to 5 NFC Championship Games with 2nd rate WR's and you ???? By the time Cutler's career is over, he'll be recognized as a very good to great QB. McNabb has made his bones on dumping the ball off to Westbrook and getting passing yardage off the YAC. PHI's D is at least as responsible for the team's success, and probably moreso. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 it's invariably what happens when, seduced by the vague empty promise of "change", you give enormous amounts of power to a slick, inexperienced newb. I'm trying and failing to come up with other real-world examples, but I think you still get the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Cassell to DenverCutler to Minnesota Warner to KC McNabb to Arizona TJax to Philly Even better. you must be smokin' dat pruple sonnnnnn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Mel Kiper Jr. disagrees with you. I heard this morning an audio clip that he didn't like Cutler coming out and he still doesn't. He's very high on Cassel. For whatever that is worth. he only says that because he wants to show he's better at what he does than Mike Mayock.... Cutler is good....Denver's coaching staff isn't... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted March 2, 2009 Author Share Posted March 2, 2009 you must be smokin' dat pruple sonnnnnn Oh, my bad, I forgot the deal sweetener. You get Childress back too to run Reid's KAO. I mean how can you turn that down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 By the time Cutler's career is over, he'll be recognized as a very good to great QB. McNabb has made his bones on dumping the ball off to Westbrook and getting passing yardage off the YAC. PHI's D is at least as responsible for the team's success, and probably moreso. +1.....the problem is that McNabb is a deep thrower in a system that requires short and accurate passes.... he's not very accurate and he tends to wait for particular players to get open instead of hitting the open receiver.... I'd take Cutler and a 3rd for McNabb, Reggie Brown and a 1st this year if Denver was cracked up enough to do it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Oh, my bad, I forgot the deal sweetener. You get Childress back too to run Reid's KAO. I mean how can you turn that down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skilly Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 I read a funny post from some Bronco's site: With all the drama coming out of Denver this weekend, Broncos fans suddenly woke up this morning as Cowboys fans. Seriously, somebody just make all this bad juju go away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 From TheHuddle: SI.com reports Denver Broncos QB Jay Cutler asked the team to trade him shortly after the departure of former assistant coach Jeremy Bates to the University of Southern California. And now he's whining cause they went ahead with his request? I wish I could text message him the following: Haha ya pansy, Phillip Rivers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBoog Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Jay Cutler..... My ego got a boo boo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Cutler to Minnesota All over the Minny papers today. Childress was, of course, non-committal. Poor Sage. What will he be thinking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Somebody tell me what movie this is from substituting Cutlers name "Oh boy Jay is gonna be pissed" "Oh yeah well maybe Jay is gonna have to stay home tonight" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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