rocknrobn26 Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 (edited) Not much to add, but my : Seahawk secondary is dinged=Bears have to flaunt that EARLY! Harris & Brown's loss hurts bigtime= Brown, Manning, Tillman, and Vasher have to step up. Which Rex???=Just don't blow the game. Hasse's head can be messed w/=Wale, Brown, and Anderson need to put major pressure. Caro last year is a signal=Once burnt twice learnt! (I hope Lovie hears me) No one has better special teams than the bears=No contest there. No injury report, but Kruetz got dinged in the last game. We lose him=Big Problem! Contain SA=Whatever it takes to contain SA! I think the Hawks come out early throwing=a couple of picks, sacks, and that will kill that game plan! This game shouldn't be a yawner. Whoever wins the first half will win. Whoever controls the ball (time) will win. Whoever has more TO's will lose. TO's should be HUGH in this game! I never predict a score, but I'll say the Bears win but don't cover. Coaching wins this game. JMHO. Edited January 9, 2007 by rocknrobn26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrunt Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 The key is going to be on the ground as well as who wins the turnover battle. Benson and Jones need to bring their A games and wear down the Seattle D. The Bears have to hope the good one of the Grossman twins shows up. They don't need Rex to throw for 300 and 3 TDs, they just need him to not f*** it up and give the D some rest by not going three and out too many times. One other thing - we must NOT allow Seattle to get going early. A Seattle TD on their opening drive will make the Bears job ten times more difficult. Three great points made here. The Bears must establish a running game and control the clock. They also must wish, pray, and hope that the football gods allow Grossman to perform well enough to keep the ball moving. They won't be able to run well if Grossman starts out sloppy -- I predict his sloppy side to come out and play. If Seattle scores on the opening drive it'll be an uphill battle for the Bears the entire game. The Seahawks have been very good at this, while also remaining inconsistent, this is key -- I predict the Seahawks to score on the opening drive. Some other notes to consider are that the Seahawks suck on the road. They lost a few times at home this year, which is surprising, but it's not surprising to see them struggle on the road -- The Bears have the advantage here. Shaun Alexander didn't play the last time the Bears dominated the Seahawks. Sure SA hasn't been able to produce the same numbers as last year, and didn't do so well last week against Dallas, but it's Shaun Alexander. If the Bears leave him open he'll find a way to make them pay for it -- I predict SA to have a solid game, allowing the WR's to get open. Seahawks: 17 Bears: 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Furley Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 Maybe this has been talked about somewhere else, but didn't SA come limping off the field in the Dallas game? Was that even anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrunt Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 Maybe this has been talked about somewhere else, but didn't SA come limping off the field in the Dallas game? Was that even anything? Turned out to be a minor shin injury. Nothing that will hold him back as he continued playing after getting it looked at during the 4th quarter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbob Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 The Hawks have to get ahead by a TD early in IMO. 2 FG's just doesn't put the same kind of pressure on the opposing team. I think if that happens we are more likely to see the bad Grossman vs the out of the blue good Grossman of week 2. This game is a complete crapshoot. ....... And right now I think I'd rather be lucky than good. Hawks 22 daBears 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitem0nkey Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 below are some stats from the chicago trib. The Seahawks are coming off a Super Bowl appearance, but they have not won a road playoff game since Dec. 31, 1983, when they beat the Dolphins 27-20 to advance to the AFC championship game. Since that game, the Seahawks have lost their next six road playoff games. ... By the way, the Seahawks have given up five more points than they have scored this season. ... Historians will take solace in this bit of Bears trivia: In the 12 times since 1933 when the Bears have played an opponent in the postseason whom they previously played during the regular season, they are 7-5, according to STATS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNOWBOUND33 Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 Since when is a game aganst your rivals meaningless? Because the goal is to win the Super Bowl. That game had no BEARing on the chances of the Bears winning the SB. Don't get me wrong, I sure was dissapointed in the the effort though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrobn26 Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 below are some stats from the chicago trib. The Seahawks are coming off a Super Bowl appearance, but they have not won a road playoff game since Dec. 31, 1983, when they beat the Dolphins 27-20 to advance to the AFC championship game. Since that game, the Seahawks have lost their next six road playoff games. ... By the way, the Seahawks have given up five more points than they have scored this season. ... Historians will take solace in this bit of Bears trivia: In the 12 times since 1933 when the Bears have played an opponent in the postseason whom they previously played during the regular season, they are 7-5, according to STATS. Add from last nite's sports report: "It's been 20 years since the #1 seed did NOT make it to the SB!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
URLACHERisGOD Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 Maybe we can have Urlacher play QB, too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 (edited) below are some stats from the chicago trib. The Seahawks are coming off a Super Bowl appearance, but they have not won a road playoff game since Dec. 31, 1983, when they beat the Dolphins 27-20 to advance to the AFC championship game. Since that game, the Seahawks have lost their next six road playoff games. ... By the way, the Seahawks have given up five more points than they have scored this season. ... Historians will take solace in this bit of Bears trivia: In the 12 times since 1933 when the Bears have played an opponent in the postseason whom they previously played during the regular season, they are 7-5, according to STATS. How come no mention of how Da Bears haven't won a playoff game since 1994 and Seattle has won 3 in the last year? There are 2 teams left in the NFC that have played rather mediocre football going into the playoffs, the Seahawks and the Bears. The Seahawks aren't the team they were last year and Da Bears aren't the team they were earlier this season. Add from last nite's sports report: "It's been 20 years since the #1 seed did NOT make it to the SB!" ? Edited January 9, 2007 by bushwacked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 Add from last nite's sports report: "It's been 20 years since the #1 seed did NOT make it to the SB!" AFC - 2005 #6 PIT made it to the Super Bowl NFC - 2003 #3 CAR made it to the Super Bowl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 How come no mention of how Da Bears haven't won a playoff game since 1994 and Seattle has won 3 in the last year? Because all such stats, whether for or against either team, are worthless as I opined in this thread or another. 1994 has the same relevance as 1894. Likewise, the Seahags failure to win on the road in the playoffs since 1983 or whenever is a total irrelevancy as far as 2007 is concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 Because all such stats, whether for or against either team, are worthless as I opined in this thread or another. 1994 has the same relevance as 1894. Likewise, the Seahags failure to win on the road in the playoffs since 1983 or whenever is a total irrelevancy as far as 2007 is concerned. That was my attempt to backhandedly insinuate such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrobn26 Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 AFC - 2005 #6 PIT made it to the Super Bowl NFC - 2003 #3 CAR made it to the Super Bowl That's why I did the ! Maybe they meant that at least one #1 seed didn't make it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitem0nkey Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 How come no mention of how Da Bears haven't won a playoff game since 1994 and Seattle has won 3 in the last year? Cause I’m a bear fan, i need to spin it in our favor. But yeah i agree with Ursa, these stats are not relevant to this game. I’m just passing on interesting info that has no bearing on the game to make the bears look better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 That's why I did the ! Maybe they meant that at least one #1 seed didn't make it? That was also incorrect. 1997 - #2 GB vs #4 DEN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrobn26 Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 That was also incorrect. 1997 - #2 GB vs #4 DEN. So much for the local sport report! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Def. Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 (edited) I’m just passing on interesting info that has no bearing on the game to make the bears look better. May wanna find a pic of a hot chica and plaster it over Grossman then, anyway you look at it he's an ugly passer. Edit to say on his bipolar days...really which is which though? Edited January 9, 2007 by Def. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 Just listened to Zach Saban (Chicago media) on a radio interview (can any of the Bear homers vouch for this guy's knowledge?). Man, what skeptical son of a gun for a Bear homer. He stated that Lovie will try to limit Grossman testing the Hawks depleted secondary and will look to try to run all game. Seems like a sound and obvious strategy, but I got to like the fact that the confidence in Grossman' is so low they might not even try to test Seattle's biggest weakness (for the life of me, I don't know why Parcells didn't do this last week). As the game gets closer, the better I feel about the Hawks chances. Da Bears appear to be lacking confidence and really haven't done much of anything on offense or defense for the latter part of the season. The sphincters across the Bear Nation are tightening more everyday while the Hawks are just looking forward to going out to play another game. Rex Grossman has a propensity to look like he doesn't even belong in the CFL at times, let alone the NFL. It sounds like maybe the only time we will get to see if Rex is Dr. Jekyll or Mr. Hyde is if the Bears get behind. Seattle has been banged up all year but has kept prevailing and Djax is probable this week. Last week's win had that "team of destiny" feel to it. I'm starting to get pumped for this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispirons Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 tossing homer glasses aside, seattle has a chance, but it is very slim. no one else has said it and i think this game boils down to one or two keys. THE BEARS WILL DOMINATE THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE. I see the offensive line especially turning in a great game. this will give rex confidence with the running game and also give him time to throw his deep passes. seattle is so depleted in the secondary which has also got to give rex some confidence. the other side of the coin, if the bears front four can wreack some havoc, i see turnovers aplenty for the bears. PEANUT BEING BACK AND DJ BEING BANGED UP. this is big for the bears. without peanut, they were being torched and even throwing hester in there sometimes. i expect a return to normalcy for the secondary and overall defense. without a doubt, briggs and urlacher need to play hugh shutting down SA. the line is big for a reason folks. vegas had to make it big to induce betting on the hawks. really seems out of line at the 9 it opened at. since has been reduced some, 8-8.5. bears take care of business at home. bears 27 seattle ?? i'm still trying to figure out the over/under. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 vegas had to make it big to induce betting on the hawks. really seems out of line at the 9 it opened at. since has been reduced some, 8-8.5. My sportsbook opened up at 7.5 and immediately went up to 9.5 where it is now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispirons Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 My sportsbook opened up at 7.5 and immediately went up to 9.5 where it is now. it was 8 this morning at the suncoast when i went up and cashed my 10 dollar bet of gators moneyline and over. (made no profit as it covered a first half ohio st. bet i lost). it is at 9 at a couple of online sites. i would expect it to drop closer to game day. the betting public is going to see the big line and bet the hawks. you can count on it. right now, all the action that has come in on the moneyline has all been on seattle. 75% of spread bets coming in on seattle. wise guys are going to hammer the bears at the bell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 (edited) it was 8 this morning at the suncoast when i went up and cashed my 10 dollar bet of gators moneyline and over. (made no profit as it covered a first half ohio st. bet i lost). it is at 9 at a couple of online sites. i would expect it to drop closer to game day. the betting public is going to see the big line and bet the hawks. you can count on it. right now, all the action that has come in on the moneyline has all been on seattle. 75% of spread bets coming in on seattle. wise guys are going to hammer the bears at the bell. You could very well be correct, but I think public perception, largely based on the October 1 encounter (ie....Bears arse whopping the Hawks) has driven the nearly 10 point spread and it will stay about the same. Despite the fact that Seattle had 2 key components, in SA and JS from their playoff run last year, missing in the earlier game, they haven't really gotten healthy or done anything to indicate they are more than an inconsistent team with frequent bursts of firepower running on backups and late addition pick ups. Da Bears have looked equally as inconsistent of late to me and I think that has been lost on the uneducated betting public. Da Bears should win...but +/- 9.5? Peanut coming back helps Chicago D immensely, but the point spread and/or the game will be decided by the performance from the starting QB's more than anything else IMHO. I'll take the 10 points with the over. Edited January 10, 2007 by bushwacked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitem0nkey Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 some tid bits from todays chicago trib. Sixteen of the Bears' 24 interceptions this season came when offenses came out in three- and four-wide receiver sets. Seahawks quarterback Matt Hasselbeck threw 68 percent of his passes this season out of three- and four-wide receiver sets. Seahawks receivers average around 4 yards after the catch, a respectable number for a team that lives off the short passing game. But if the first guy misses, big plays occur. Nobody knows what to expect out of a resodded Soldier Field, so fundamental tackling is a must. As dangerous as Hasselbeck is because of playoff experience, he completed only 51 percent of his passes on third downs, when the Seahawks typically bring in an extra receiver or two. Eleven of the Bears' 24 interceptions came on third downs. That spells opportunity. Hasselbeck has 17 interceptions in 13 games this season, including 10 in seven games since returning from the knee sprain. He had just nine interceptions in 16 games last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat2334 Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 You could very well be correct, but I think public perception, largely based on the October 1 encounter (ie....Bears arse whopping the Hawks) has driven the nearly 10 point spread and it will stay about the same. Despite the fact that Seattle had 2 key components, in SA and JS from their playoff run last year, missing in the earlier game, they haven't really gotten healthy or done anything to indicate they are more than an inconsistent team with frequent bursts of firepower running on backups and late addition pick ups. Da Bears have looked equally as inconsistent of late to me and I think that has been lost on the uneducated betting public. Da Bears should win...but +/- 9.5? Peanut coming back helps Chicago D immensely, but the point spread and/or the game will be decided by the performance from the starting QB's more than anything else IMHO. I'll take the 10 points with the over. Yeah - I think the 9.5, 10 is off myself. In this game, with these 2 teams, that have been so inconsistent lately I will be all over Sea. Crisp is certainly more dialed in with the Vegas moves, and smart money - I just happen to like value with the points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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