Hugh 0ne Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Just in case you were on the fence about Marbury being a total moran: http://www.news10now.com/content/top_stori...mp;addvid=68293 "We don't say anything about people that shoot deer or shoot other animals. From what I hear dogfighting is a sport. It's just behind closed doors. And I think it's tough that we build Michael Vick up and then we break him down. I think he's one of the superb athletes and I think he's a good human being. I just think he fell into a bad situation." I mean, shooting deer is the same as torturing dogs for years by breeding them to be fighters, and then drowning them or electrocuting them or smashing them on the ground until they're dead when they lose. It's just behind closed doors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepinmofo Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Deer = wild animals that can overpopulate. Dogs = domestic animals that make great FRIENDS. Hey Stephon, do you shoot your friends? I dont understand how people can compare dogs to other animals. Dogs are a domestic animal, and thats what these jackazzes seem to ALWAYS forget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepinmofo Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Just in case you were on the fence about Marbury being a total moran: http://www.news10now.com/content/top_stori...mp;addvid=68293 I mean, shooting deer is the same as torturing dogs for years by breeding them to be fighters, and then drowning them or electrocuting them or smashing them on the ground until they're dead when they lose. It's just behind closed doors. They were also talking on Sirius yesterday about the lifestyle of some dogfighters. They said something about how some of them would kidnap peoples pets from their back yards, and throw them in the pen with the dogs to see how they would react to other animals. They essentially would kill the dog. Sick. I hope Vick dies a horrible death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isleseeya Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Its the generation x mentality with a total disconnect that too many athletes have today ...they don't think or act like a common normal person because too much is given too them and they are too far removed from regular society ...very sad but also infuriating :mad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonKnight Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Its the generation x mentality What? When I think of GenX I think of computers, Mountain Dew and Tony Hawk not killing f'in dogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 (edited) Deer = wild animals that can overpopulate. Dogs = domestic animals that make great FRIENDS. Hey Stephon, do you shoot your friends? I dont understand how people can compare dogs to other animals. Dogs are a domestic animal, and thats what these jackazzes seem to ALWAYS forget. A pit bull is not exactly what i'd consider to be domesticated, but that's my opinon. They kill and mame more people then any other type of dog, and all the deer in the world combined. Edited August 22, 2007 by theeohiostate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billay Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 I must say, I find the pictures in the local sunday paper of dads with their kids, kneeling over the buck they just killed to be pretty barbaric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 0ne Posted August 22, 2007 Author Share Posted August 22, 2007 I must say, I find the pictures in the local sunday paper of dads with their kids, kneeling over the buck they just killed to be pretty barbaric. While not a hunter myself, I see quite the difference between the barbaric breeding, torturing and eventual killing of dogs for sport as opposed to shooting a deer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billay Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 While not a hunter myself, I see quite the difference between the barbaric breeding, torturing and eventual killing of dogs for sport as opposed to shooting a deer. I made no comparison between dogfighting and hunting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Let's play a game. What do Clinton Portis & Stephen Marbury have in common with Michael Vick.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewer Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 I made no comparison between dogfighting and hunting. good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 0ne Posted August 22, 2007 Author Share Posted August 22, 2007 I made no comparison between dogfighting and hunting. Never claimed that you did, but I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 I made no comparison between dogfighting and hunting. Then why did you post the comment that you did if it has no connection? Just felt like making a case for PETA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billay Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 good. But I am a bit of a moral relativist and different people find different things morally or ethically reprehensible. Just because hunting is less barbaric than dogfighting, doesn't exactly make it "stand up" behavior in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Cheezhead Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 (edited) A pit bull is not exactly what i'd consider to be domesticated, but that's my opinon. They kill and mame more people then any other type of dog, and all the deer in the world combined. Yeah, that's the part of this story that complicates the issue for me. Because of their violent history, I have nowhere near the same affinity for pit bulls as I do for my border collie....but that's not really the breed's fault. People have been fighting pit bulls and selectively breeding them for about 200 years, so the modern product is not surprising. The history of the pit bull suggests that they're more at "home" in a fighting "pit" than they are in someone's living room. Obviously, I question the intelligence/maturity of people who find entertainment value in dogs tearing each other to pieces. I also find it disturbing to think of those same people finding "creative" ways to kill some of those dogs. However, I kinda take exception to those who can make a distinction between a dog and a deer, but don't understand the difference between a pit bull and a truly domesticated dog breed. Vick's dog-fighting escapade is inexcusable -- and dog-fighting should definitely be illegal everywhere -- but, unfortunately, there are worse things. Edited August 22, 2007 by Swiss Cheezhead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Then why did you post the comment that you did if it has no connection? Just felt like making a case for PETA? Maybe because it relates to the very first post in this thread & the quote from Marbury, which this thread is about? Just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billay Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Then why did you post the comment that you did if it has no connection? Just felt like making a case for PETA? Just playing a little devil's advocate. Stephon makes a point despite himself. What is morally reprehensible to one has no ethical or moral ramifications to another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billay Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Maybe because it relates to the very first post in this thread & the quote from Marbury, which this thread is about? Just saying. We have a winner! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Just playing a little devil's advocate. Stephon makes a point despite himself. What is morally reprehensible to one has no ethical or moral ramifications to another. That's nice. But of course, we're talking about what is morally reprehensible to our society as whole here - you know, those pesky little things called laws. That of course is why your non-comparison of deer hunting & dog fighting would be so completely absurd & assinine if in fact you had actually made it, which we all know that you didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 But I am a bit of a moral relativist and different people find different things morally or ethically reprehensible. Just because hunting is less barbaric than dogfighting, doesn't exactly make it "stand up" behavior in my book. Agree with you here. I put all these activities in one big tub, Killing for Sport. While some are more hanis then others, the underlaying issue for me is the same. I do not judge anyone who kills animals, as i eat meat everyday, i just don't like the idea of doing any harm to any animal for the simple "fun" factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billay Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 (edited) That's nice. But of course, we're talking about what is morally reprehensible to our society as whole here - you know, those pesky little things called laws. That of course is why your non-comparison of deer hunting & dog fighting would be so completely absurd & assinine if in fact you had actually made it, which we all know that you didn't. Are you honestly trying to equate moral reprehensibility with what is illegal in this country? I take it you are pro-choice then. Edited August 22, 2007 by billay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Are you honestly trying to equate moral reprehensibility with what is illegal in this country? How do you think laws are created? Random dice rolls? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 It's just this simple folks- Brothers backing Brothers. End of story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billay Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 How do you think laws are created? Random dice rolls? nice punt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 I take it you are pro-choice then. Don't take it upon yourself to assume anything about me. You don't know me well enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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