DemonKnight Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 The legislation signed by Bush at a ceremony at the Energy Department requires automakers to increase fuel efficiency by 40 percent to an industry average 35 miles per gallon by 2020. It also ramps up production of ethanol use to 36 billion gallons a year by 2022. Bush said the new requirements will help "address our vulnerabilities and dependency" on foreign oil by reducing demand for gasoline and diversifying the nation's fuel supply. "We make a major step ... toward reducing our dependence on oil, fighting global climate change, expanding the production of renewable fuels and giving future generations ... a nation that is stronger cleaner and more secure," said the president. Bush was flanked by Democrat and Republican members of Congress who had ushered the legislation through. The House passed the energy bill Tuesday by a 314-100 vote after the Senate cleared it last week following lengthy negotiations and sometimes testy confrontations. Bush had vowed to veto the original legislation passed by the House because it included $21 billion in taxes. The tax provisions were dropped to get the bill approved. Congress delivered the legislation to the White House late Tuesday in a gas-hybrid sedan. Bush noted that earlier this year he had proposed a plan to cut gasoline use by 20 percent over the next 10 years. But the president has long opposed arbitrary numerical standards for vehicle fuel economy. The legislation increases the federal standard automakers must meet to an industry wide 35 mpg for passengers cars, SUVs and small trucks. The standard for cars today is 27.5 mpg and for trucks and SUVs 22.2 mpg. It requires refineries to increase the use of ethanol from about 6 billion gallons a year this year to 36 billion gallons by 2022 and mandates that by then at least 21 billion gallons are to come from feedstocks other than corn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Farewell Detroit... we hardly knew ye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexgaddis Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 While this might normally be newsworthy, DIDN'T YOU HEAR JAMIE LYNN SPEARS IS PREGNANT???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Posted yesterday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Farewell Detroit... we hardly knew ye. Detroit was gone long ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isleseeya Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Chinese cars are coming soon ...8000 for a brand new car that will have multiple coats of lead paint and get 50 mph to the gallon I am sure the cars will breakdown after 100 miles or so but the replacement parts will be super cheap as they ofcourse will be made in China Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Chinese cars are coming soon ...8000 for a brand new car that will have multiple coats of lead paint and get 50 mph to the gallon I am sure the cars will breakdown after 100 miles or so but the replacement parts will be super cheap as they ofcourse will be made in China I was on vacation a year or two ago in the BVI's and took a cab from the airport to the marina. The cab was a brand new mini van from China. It looked like an old Chevy or GMC mini van from the mid 80s with an even cheaper trim package than what was offered here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Solution... get rid of the catalytic converter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimC Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 (edited) The gawd-danged hippies will have to catch me first. Edited December 19, 2007 by TimC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 The gawd-danged hippies will have to catch me first. that wont be hard... they will put a pack of smokes on the curb... and bam... drop the net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ill Nuts Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Farewell Detroit... we hardly knew ye. Detroit was a done deal a long time ago. You can either adapt and change with the times or die, same as any other industry. They chose the latter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonKnight Posted December 19, 2007 Author Share Posted December 19, 2007 The gawd-danged hippies will have to catch me first. Yer such a rebel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H8tank Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 This is all crap if we can't drill alaska and floriduh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 the "right direction" being where the government tells us all what to do, i take it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Now we are getting rid of the incandescent light bulb by 2014. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonKnight Posted December 19, 2007 Author Share Posted December 19, 2007 the "right direction" being where the government tells us all what to do, i take it? Exactly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 the "right direction" being where the government tells us all what to do, i take it? Anarchy is the only way to a better society. Everyone knows the free market always looks out for the best interests of Joe Citizen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isleseeya Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Now we are getting rid of the incandescent light bulb by 2014. Ben Franklin is turning over in his grave ..and kites will never have the same meaning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicCEO Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 The legislation signed by Bush at a ceremony at the Energy Department requires automakers to increase fuel efficiency by 40 percent to an industry average 35 miles per gallon by 2020. OOOOOoooohhh!!!! A modest gain in fuel efficiency within the next THIRTEEN years? How in the hell are they going to accomplish an amazing feat like that?? That's ridiculous!!!! It will bankrupt everyone! This legislation is nothing. If American cars haven't increased their fuel efficiency far past that mark within the next 5 years, they'll be driven out of business by their far superior and more innovative competitors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 ive looked and havent found anywhere that says just american automakers need to do this. it would seem that any automaker that wants to sell a vehicle here needs to comply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicCEO Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 ive looked and havent found anywhere that says just american automakers need to do this. it would seem that any automaker that wants to sell a vehicle here needs to comply. Honda and Toyota have been manufacturing their own hybrid engines for years, and lead all manufacturers for fuel efficiency. I think they've got a bit of an edge in this department. The last I heard, Ford was leasing their hybrid technology from Toyota. Personally... I want one of these. They freaking kick ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 the "right direction" being where the government tells us all what to do, i take it? Govt. tells us to do a lot of things. This seems to be a largely symbolic gesture with modest enforcement considering American automakers largely missed the boat on what American consumers are buying anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holy Roller Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 Why shouldn't the government tell us what to do? They already "own" everything! If you don't believe me just go a few years and don't pay your property taxes. The guberment will send the black helicopters and take it away. Seems to me we're just a bunch of renters. "Lying to the IRS is the same as lying to the Devil." Jesus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubfoothead Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 OOOOOoooohhh!!!! A modest gain in fuel efficiency within the next THIRTEEN years? How in the hell are they going to accomplish an amazing feat like that?? That's ridiculous!!!! It will bankrupt everyone! This legislation is nothing. If American cars haven't increased their fuel efficiency far past that mark within the next 5 years, they'll be driven out of business by their far superior and more innovative competitors. One can only hope. Even forgetting the environmental argument, decreasing our reliance on foreign oil should be a priority as a matter of national security. It would probably be in our nation's best interest to not have our need for oil be such an important aspect of our foreign policy decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 Even forgetting the environmental argument, decreasing our reliance on foreign oil should be a priority as a matter of national security. It would probably be in our nation's best interest to not have our need for oil be such an important aspect of our foreign policy decisions. I'm more worried about the constant barrage of reports from Fox News that insinuates I can't wish anyone a Merry Christmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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