u rape a child, u die

[Skilly]

I would love to agree with this, except, as was pointed out in the article, what would stop a rapist from simply killing the child since the punishment is the same? Many of the rapes would become rape/murders since they would have a better chance of getting away with it if they shut up the victim and the price is the same.

 

I thought about this for awhile, and I don't think I necessarily believe that this is a valid line of reasoning. I don't have any research to back me up, but I'll bet that rapists don't think about ANY consequences at the time. They are only motivated by some internal instinct, and just act on that instinct. And I would also wager that most rapists have NO desire to kill their victims.

 

My stance is that the death penalty should be instated for rape. If they can prove it with hard evidence, that is. But that should go without saying, anyway.

[rocknrobn26]

My problem is the ease at which a girl can yell "RAPE" after the fact, or just cause they want revenge. Caught in the act......Microwave the fokcer, on low. But if we have to rely on a teenager's testimony as the ONLY proof, then I'm not so sure. As an ex-teacher/advisor, I always made sure my door was open and tried to get a suite mate to be there during my advising session. I had more than my share of the "Touchy/feely" types and YES I was paranoid.

 

I also understand the girl who IS raped, and of course there were no witnesses. This is a messy business. Proved guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, tie his/her ass to a nuke and detonate. But how is this accomplished w/o a witness???? DNA??!!

[seminoles]

raping a child is worse than all the other crimes that lead to the death penalty

I will respectively disagree with this statement

[AtomicCEO]

I thought about this for awhile, and I don't think I necessarily believe that this is a valid line of reasoning. I don't have any research to back me up, but I'll bet that rapists don't think about ANY consequences at the time. They are only motivated by some internal instinct, and just act on that instinct.

 

Yeah, but I bet in that awkward moment after the rape, he has some clarity of mind and starts thinking about the reality of the situation... kinda like when you finish masturbating to animated porn. Sure it all seemed like a good idea at the time, but what was I thinking?

[jaxfactor]

One of my all time favorite movies is A Time To Kill. "Yeah they deserved to die and I hope they rot in hell!"

[NSab]

2 thumbs up!

[whomper]

Yeah, but I bet in that awkward moment after the rape, he has some clarity of mind and starts thinking about the reality of the situation... kinda like when you finish masturbating to animated porn. Sure it all seemed like a good idea at the time, but what was I thinking?

 

 

The mother from the Incredibles had a sick ass

[Clubfoothead]

Here in Dallas someone being released from jail due to DNA has become an anual event. Meaning each year my ability to support the death penalty wanes. In theory, I support it for a few crimes but I cannot support executing high school juniors and seniors for nailing freshmen and sophomores.

 

Atomic, you are crazy, I would totally do Lois Griffin, Francine Smith and Hailey Smith. Even if there's something wrong with that.

[Thews40]

I will respectively disagree with this statement

That's cause yer young and naive. The repeat offenders are the ones that sicken me. They get caught, get out, do it again and put back in. They should be dead on strike one. For all the KoolAid drinkers that believe every stupid “wrongful” accusation that gets overturned in the courts because of lack of evidence (or some other nuance because the crime was committed 15 years ago), just make sure what “facts” you toss around as fact. By the way, if you want to rape children, just move to Utah and join a polygamous sect… then you can “marry” your child bride rape victim when elder puff N’ stuff “appoints” it, and have welfare pay for it.

[yo mama]

Atomic, you are crazy, I would totally do Lois Griffin, Francine Smith and Hailey Smith. Even if there's something wrong with that.

Um, Hailey has herpes.

[seminoles]

That's cause yer young and naive. The repeat offenders are the ones that sicken me. They get caught, get out, do it again and put back in. They should be dead on strike one. For all the KoolAid drinkers that believe every stupid “wrongful” accusation that gets overturned in the courts because of lack of evidence (or some other nuance because the crime was committed 15 years ago), just make sure what “facts” you toss around as fact. By the way, if you want to rape children, just move to Utah and join a polygamous sect… then you can “marry” your child bride rape victim when elder puff N’ stuff “appoints” it, and have welfare pay for it.

I'm not disagreeing with the severity of raping a child, I'm just saying that I find mass killing to be just a tinsy bit worse.

[broncosn05]

Kill em.

[I Like Soup]

I thought about this for awhile, and I don't think I necessarily believe that this is a valid line of reasoning. I don't have any research to back me up, but I'll bet that rapists don't think about ANY consequences at the time. They are only motivated by some internal instinct, and just act on that instinct. And I would also wager that most rapists have NO desire to kill their victims.

 

My stance is that the death penalty should be instated for rape. If they can prove it with hard evidence, that is. But that should go without saying, anyway.

Well, my ex-girlfriend (read: Dr. in psychology and dealt with the criminal side of things, rapes, child killiing, etc.) and this is the very point she stood by. So I think I'll go with her valid line of reasoning seeing as she has quite a bit of exposure to the dregs of society. Well, unless unta has something funny to say...

[I Like Soup]

I'm not disagreeing with the severity of raping a child, I'm just saying that I find mass killing to be just a tinsy bit worse.

I'd probably agree with you. Not that mass killings happen as much as child rape, but I get yer point. Murder may be a tad bit up the scale, but abuse against children is pretty high up.

[millerx]

I think it should be, if you rape a child, you get slowly tortured, ending in a slow, painful death.

 

I recently had a kidney stone. I think child rapists should have a stone surgically implanted in their pee hole, stick something up it so far to push it back, then let them suffer in pain.

 

Hows that sound?

 

I think it should be, if you rape a child, you get slowly tortured, ending in a slow, painful death.

 

I recently had a kidney stone. I think child rapists should have a stone surgically implanted in their pee hole, stick something up it so far to push it back, then let them suffer in pain.

 

Hows that sound?

 

I think it should be, if you rape a child, you get slowly tortured, ending in a slow, painful death.

 

I recently had a kidney stone. I think child rapists should have a stone surgically implanted in their pee hole, stick something up it so far to push it back, then let them suffer in pain.

 

Hows that sound?

 

I think it should be, if you rape a child, you get slowly tortured, ending in a slow, painful death.

 

I recently had a kidney stone. I think child rapists should have a stone surgically implanted in their pee hole, stick something up it so far to push it back, then let them suffer in pain.

 

Hows that sound?

 

 

 

 

 

I will never forget that episode of Taxi. "what does a yellow light mean?"..."Slow down"....Whaaaaat doooeess aaaa yeeeellow liiight meeeaan?" ..."Slow Down"....etc, etc... Sorry, that's the first thing that popped in my mind.

 

Anyway... If you are caught with your hand in the cookie jar (so to speak) you get death! Although I also don't believe in zero tolerance policies?!?

if the offender is 17 and his girlfriend is 15...just a sound beating from the girls' father is in order!!

[TheGrunt]

I think it should be, if you rape a child, you get slowly tortured, ending in a slow, painful death.

 

repeatedly...

 

Isn't that [sort of] what happens to them when serving a life sentence in prison?

 

Think shower scene stabbing in "Psycho" -- but it's not a knife they're being stabbed with in the shower, in prison.

 

Edited April 17, 2008 by TheGrunt

[millerx]

Question? Are we (most of us) here thinking in terms of a man being the perpetrator? I mean we tend to think of Dateline's "to catch a predator" series, where these scumbags come to abuse the innocent? Should woman that are well beyond their years also get the same treatment (death)? Or is there a double standard? I believe there is a double standard, and oddly enough, don't have a big a problem with it. I mean, have you seen a few of them?

Example:

Pamela Rogers

or

Debra Lafave...

 

I personally, wouldn't have been traumatized if one of these teachers wanted to "teach" me something!! Maybe it's just me, but I don't see putting these women to death.

Edited April 17, 2008 by millerx

[Avernus]

Isn't that [sort of] what happens to them when serving a life sentence in prison?

 

Think shower scene stabbing in "Psycho" -- but it's not a knife they're being stabbed with in the shower, in prison.

 

 

true, the death penalty is the easy way out...we should let them get rummaged over and over and over and over.....well, you get the idea....and again..

[Thews40]

Question? Are we (most of us) here thinking in terms of a man being the perpetrator? I mean we tend to think of Dateline's "to catch a predator" series, where these scumbags come to abuse the innocent? Should woman that are well beyond their years also get the same treatment (death)? Or is there a double standard? I believe there is a double standard, and oddly enough, don't have a big a problem with it. I mean, have you seen a few of them?

Example:

Pamela Rogers

or

Debra Lafave...

 

I personally, wouldn't have been traumatized if one of these teachers wanted to "teach" me something!! Maybe it's just me, but I don't see putting these women to death.

I agree with you. There really is a double standard, because I don't think a woman could "rape" a non-willing participant.

[The Holy Roller]

Well, my ex-girlfriend (read: Dr. in psychology and dealt with the criminal side of things, rapes, child killiing, etc.) and this is the very point she stood by. So I think I'll go with her valid line of reasoning seeing as she has quite a bit of exposure to the dregs of society. Well, unless unta has something funny to say...

 

 

You are too hard on yourself. Animated pron may be what you need to feel better about yourself.

[untateve]

Well, my ex-girlfriend (read: Dr. in psychology and dealt with the criminal side of things, rapes, child killiing, etc.) and this is the very point she stood by. So I think I'll go with her valid line of reasoning seeing as she has quite a bit of exposure to the dregs of society. Well, unless unta has something funny to say...

 

I am not your dancing monkey, put on this earth to cavort and frolic for you amusement.

[peepinmofo]

Debra Lafave...

 

I personally, wouldn't have been traumatized if one of these teachers wanted to "teach" me something!! Maybe it's just me, but I don't see putting these women to death.

 

Strangely enough, I know the kid LeFave banged. I used to be a camp counselor at a Rec. center after school p[rogram, and the kid was in 3rd grade then. A few years later hes banging some hot teacher. I didnt teach him that!

 

Also, the difference is, at least with LeFave, is the kid wasnt raped. He willingly did it. Raping a child, molesting a child, those are completely different things from having sex with a 15 year old boy (or however old he was). Im not saying its ok, just stating there are big differences.

[Azazello1313]

guys, I don't think the death penalty would be instituted for statutory rape, where a teacher (male or female) bangs a high school student or whatever, or a 19 year old bangs a 16 year old.

 

in any case, I am against the death penalty in general because I do not think an appropriate evidentiary standard exists to support such a remedy. this problem would be even greater if the penalty were extended to rape, a crime where false accusations and bad convictions are rampant.

 

I will say though, I've always wondered why the penalties for so many sex crimes seemed so low. much lower than your gut instinct would say they deserve. there has been a recent trend to address that, which is a good thing.

[dmarc117]

question for death penalty opponents.........

 

if there is 0 doubt the person is guilty per confession or evidence, should he/she be put to death?

 

i say yes for murder and child rape

[yo mama]

question for death penalty opponents.........

 

if there is 0 doubt the person is guilty per confession or evidence, should he/she be put to death?

 

i say yes for murder and child rape

In your example, how many times was the guy beaten and denied his request for counsel before he confessed?